Re: iCloud vs. G4

2012-04-16 Thread Kris Tilford
I'm not totally familiar with this since I've never used .Mac, MobileMe, or iCloud. While it's certain that there will never be any iCloud software for older PPC Macs similar to the iCloud control panel and application integration available with Lion 10.7, I think your current problem with

Re: iCloud vs. G4

2012-04-16 Thread James E. Therrault
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:20 PM, oneoftheharts wrote: > I don't post very often and when I do I seem to be told that I posted > to the wrong group. Maybe if this is the case again, someone can > kindly direct me to the right list. FYI, I've been around since the > Quadlist helped me with my Centri

iCloud vs. G4

2012-04-16 Thread oneoftheharts
I don't post very often and when I do I seem to be told that I posted to the wrong group. Maybe if this is the case again, someone can kindly direct me to the right list. FYI, I've been around since the Quadlist helped me with my Centris 610... For those who don't have a .mac account and wonder

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
> I believe SpeedTools is the only MacOS software that works with HDs > larger than 128GB? Probably, and why I retained it until I went over to MacOS X full time. But, on my early MacOS X machines I usually employed the LBA48 hack, and not Intech's kext. -- You received this message because

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
>> One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as "mal-ware". > > But what's your objection to FWB? Generally, a non-responsive and/or non-existent support group. Besides which, I have had my best results using a hacked version of Drive Setup, in which I use ResEdit to change one of the Sea

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools I may have used SpeedTools rather than FWB to initialize my 80-to-50- pin adapted SCA drives? Whichever I used, it wasn't because I thought it had any advantage, it was because it

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as "mal-ware". I prefer LaCie Silverlining anyway, which is even A/UX aware. But what's your objection to FWB? The only driver I had little love for was Intech Speedtools, and not because it was poor but because it had nothing the others didn't a

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Dan
At 2:12 PM -0700 4/16/2012, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: One NEED NOT buy FWB, which I generally consider as "mal-ware". With OS 7 thru 8.6, I preferred using FWB. Their driver was faster than Apple's. That changed in 9.1, when Apple finally fixed their buffering. At that point the two dri

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
> 3) I had to initialize the drive the first time with software other > than Apple. I used FWB HD Toolkit I believe? Once initialized, the > Apple software saw the drive, and I could reinitialize with the Apple > software. Drive Setup can be hacked, using ResEdit, to initialize almost ANY SCSI dr

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Kris Tilford
Here's my minimal experience with 80-pin to 50-pin adapted SCA drives: 1) mine also wouldn't recognize initially. 2) I believe I used jumpers on the "DLY" delay which causes the drive to have time to spin-up from a cold start before it sends anything to the Mac. My drives spun-up super slowly

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> My temps run about 65 to 75 most of the time. > We had a heat wave two years back and the temps in the condo got to > 115 F. That made it leak. Ugh. Glad to have central A/C here in the foothills. > Well my Dual 2.7 power draw may be due to the 5 2TB internal HDD's , > they keep the fans bu

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: As I stated the ambient is also very important here, plus never crowd the back of one of the "Stanley Steamers" (water pumpers) too lose to a wall they need breathing room. Good point. Mine used to be crammed into a corner, but in my n

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > > My Dual 2.7 with either the Delphi or Panasonic LCS at idle is about > > > 155 F equally between A and B. However they will vary 30 F between > > > CPU's and top temps at 185 to 200 when loaded. > > > > That seems really high, but I've never used a dual 2.7, so maybe their > > higher c

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > I ran the thermal calibration - it failed saying the CPUs (both of > > them) have exceeded the maximum temperature. > > I question the reliability of the ASD's reports, with the Duals the > ASD 2.5.7 and 2.5.8 will give different out comes on the tests a lot > of times the 2.5.8 will al

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
> 50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago. > > Manufacturer capacity was changed to 68-pin (UW- and LVD/SE-SCSI) and > 80-pin (SCA). Also various types of network-attached SCSI drives. Seagate currently lists these SCSI drives: 9- and 18-GB Atlas (formerly Quantum, but re-branded as Seaga

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
> Incidentally, people are asking for some ridiculous prices for 50-pin SCSI > drives on eBay. "Legacy" apparently becomes "antique" at some point. I was > advised earlier on this forum that SCA drives were a workable option. 50-pin SCSI became archaic YEARS and YEARS ago. Manufacturer capacity

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Barry Levine
on 4/16/12 12:09 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com at peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > The 8600 has two SCSI buses: a 10 MB/sec internal bus and a 5 MB-sec > external bus. Each bus must be separately terminated. > > The standard internal cable is 1-wide, as is the external bus, although > the external bus is

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Michael Baudais wrote: I ran the thermal calibration - it failed saying the CPUs (both of them) have exceeded the maximum temperature. I question the reliability of the ASD's reports, with the Duals the ASD 2.5.7 and 2.5.8 will give different out comes on th

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread peterhaas
> However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old > SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a working SCSI HD in it. It > mounts, shows up on SCSI Bus 1. But the new 80 pin SCSI + adapter doesn't > mount when placed in the external enclosure. The 8600 has two SCSI buses

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Baudais
I ran the thermal calibration - it failed saying the CPUs (both of them) have exceeded the maximum temperature. The machine is totally clean - no liquid, no stains, no residue anywhere. The seals seem solid. I don't believe that it's been "leaking" as in dripping out. Could it evaporate

Re: Getting 80 pin SCSI to work in an 8600

2012-04-16 Thread Barry Levine
I've got a CD drive and a CD-RW drive on ID4 and ID6 - I assume there's proper SCSI termination - if only because I've been using this setup for years without any problems. However, I did a test to sidestep SCSI termination issues - I have an old SCSI CD-ROM external drive case, and put a working

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread John Carmonne
On Apr 11, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >>> CPU A is indeed normally hotter than CPU B. The typical differential >>> is >>> around 10 degrees Centigrade, at least on the units I've seen, but not >>> significantly higher than that. >> >> My Dual 2.7 with either the Delphi or Panasoni

Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot

2012-04-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Baudais Michael wrote: Hmmm, maybe I just noticed it after that cleaning because I was checking to see if the temperature dropped... Other notes: - both pumps are running at 2436 rpm right now - Temps are 45.6, 45.3, 33.6, 32.6 C - Fans are at 2162, 2162 (CPU Exh