upgrade eMac
How? I cannot use Safari to download the tenfourfox. :- / I tried. Any suggestions? Gene H From: Illirik Smirnov To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:46 PM Subject: Re: upgrade eMac Use tenfourfox for your browser under 10.3.9. It is much better than Safari on PPC systems. On Jun 23, 2013 1:55 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: Bruce, I did download the upgrade. It went in flawlessly. I saw a note that suggested upgrading Java,which I did. ( To stop Safari from dropping.) Nothing I did corrected this Safari problem. A search from another of my computers revealed that is was a problem,and Apple was dending patches. I have been unable to find these patches. In order to use Safari, I had to go back to 10.3.3,the original OS. It works well. I wou;ld like to have 10.3.9 if that is possible WITH Safari.!0.3.9 works well EXCEPT for Safari. Cheers Gene From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: I have an eMac with 10.3.3 I understand that I must upgrade to 10.3.9 before I can go to Tiger. Maybe not true. - Not true. No Apple system ever required you have the preevious system version installed and updated until 10.7 (which required 10.6.8 for access to the App Store) You can install 10.4 on a completely blank disk. = Should it be , I don`t know how to upgrade to to 10.3.9. Any help appreciated. === If you DO what to update to 10.3.9, just download the combo updater from apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL496 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group
upgrade eMac
I`m running in circles. I STILL cannot get Safari in 10.3.9. Sigh. I may have to go back to 10.3.3,or upgrade to 10.4. Drat! Any solutions? Gene H From: Eric Hall To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: Re: upgrade eMac You could always run classilla in classic mode. -- From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: upgrade eMac Use tenfourfox for your browser under 10.3.9. It is much better than Safari on PPC systems. Alas, TenFourFox will not run on 10.3. The lowest OS I support is 10.4.11. 10.3 lacks the secret CoreText which the font code relies upon, and the OS libraries are not advanced enough to support the browser as written. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- BOND THEME NOW PLAYING: On Her Majesty's Secret Service -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: upgrade eMac
I`m losing count of those suggesting upgrade to Tiger. Thanks Gene H From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: upgrade eMac Il giorno 24/06/13 15.04, Gene Henley ha scritto: I`m running in circles. I STILL cannot get Safari in 10.3.9. Sigh. I may have to go back to 10.3.3,or upgrade to 10.4. Drat! Any solutions? No solutions here, I'm sorry, but I can say that I switched to 10.4 from 10.3 years ago (on a G4), and I liked 10.4 more. 10.4 wasn't any slower than 10.3 (perhaps even a little bit faster sometimes), and it gave me much more software compatibility and some nice added features. Really stable and efficient OSX version. So, unless you have specific issues against it, I'd suggest going for 10.4. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
upgrade eMac
Bruce, I did download the upgrade. It went in flawlessly. I saw a note that suggested upgrading Java,which I did. ( To stop Safari from dropping.) Nothing I did corrected this Safari problem. A search from another of my computers revealed that is was a problem,and Apple was dending patches. I have been unable to find these patches. In order to use Safari, I had to go back to 10.3.3,the original OS. It works well. I wou;ld like to have 10.3.9 if that is possible WITH Safari.!0.3.9 works well EXCEPT for Safari. Cheers Gene From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: I have an eMac with 10.3.3 I understand that I must upgrade to 10.3.9 before I can go to Tiger. Maybe not true. - Not true. No Apple system ever required you have the preevious system version installed and updated until 10.7 (which required 10.6.8 for access to the App Store) You can install 10.4 on a completely blank disk. = Should it be , I don`t know how to upgrade to to 10.3.9. Any help appreciated. === If you DO what to update to 10.3.9, just download the combo updater from apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL496 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
upgrade eMac
I have an eMac with 10.3.3 I understand that I must upgrade to 10.3.9 before I can go to Tiger. Maybe not true. Should it be , I don`t know how to upgrade to to 10.3.9. Any help appreciated. Gene H -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Power Mac Coffee Table!
I agree. Gene H From: James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that served me flawlessly for ten years. JT On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote: http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! Joe Gene H From: JoeTaxpayer To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Leo - I imagine these machines weren't functional. Once the PS dies, it's tough. Even used supplies aren't cheap (set me straight if I'm wrong there) and the time to replace one isn't simple. I love my G4s, but when they go, they get set aside. On Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:01:47 AM UTC-4, Leo E. Sancho wrote: Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac Coffee Table!
Too bad otherwise useful G4`s collect dust. I have a 7100 PowerPc,three G4`s,and one G3 All in one. I use them. I`ve replaced power supplies(No big deal) in every G4.I have Tiger with Classic and OS9.2Also, I`m trying out Ubuntu and Hypercard. When I get bored,I crank up my Dell XP. Cheers Gene H www.thinkgene.stemtechbiz.com From: Leo E. Sancho To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Power Mac Coffee Table! Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of course I have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust... -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 DA won't boot into 9.1
I am paying close attention to this thread. I just put Classic(hopefully) in my Quicksiler Tiger. I hope to do the same with my AD Tiger. Cheers Gene From: arichic...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:17 AM Subject: Re: G4 DA won't boot into 9.1 Thanks to everyone who has been responding to my questions; I was able to find an online upgrade to 9.2.2, and can now boot into it. However, it installed without any Airport extensions or control panels. I wonder why. How would I add them? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4851 - Release Date: 03/04/12 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver 733Mhz to 1 gig CPU
I have a 733mhz Quicksilver. I was given an 1 gig Quicksilver CPU. Possible to put that in my 733 Quicksilver? Gene H -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 + Tiger: iTune 9?
Clearly written on front of computer is IMac. OS 9.2.2 With the following: Updated. About this computer: Built-in memory : 512 Mhz ( I hope to install more if it is do able) System profiler: Processor PowerPC G3 No firewire Ethernet Built-in Processor speed 350 Mhz. Colour is ( Green.Blue?) optical drive ROM (slot) - I would call this an (All in one except for key board and mouse) Now,on to what I can do with this beauty. I intend to put in max ide drive,max ram,and replace optical drive. I intend to install either Panther or Tiger with Classic. Tiger may not work properly. If I must jump through hoops and perform backflips in order to have classic,I might just partition it to have Panther, OS 9.2.2,and Linux. I have a bunch of Classic already in this computer,and have been given a bunch of Hypercard material. I intend to see it. Any questions? Many thanks Gene H From: David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:58 PM Subject: Re: G3 + Tiger: iTune 9? On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Gene Henley wrote: I have a G3,350 Mhz with no fire wire. It has 9.2.2 What is max HDD it will accept? How much ram? The disk drive is read only. Will it accept a CD RW or DVD RW? I want to make this a Panther or Tiger with Classic capabilities,or dual boot. OS 9 or OSX. Is this doable? You've made an error with the description. All the 350MHz iMacs had Firewire ports. The fastest iMac without a Firewire port was the 333MHz, which is what I assume you have? I don't see the name iMac in his description? Could it be that he is describing a G3 PowerMac, instead of an iMac? Too lazy to check if the 350MHz G3 PowerMac came with a FireWire port, but more knowledgeable Mac users here on this list will know that answer off the top of their head without having to even look it up. David aka AmigaDave dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac MDD, plus dual booting MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks. Main desktop computer is dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac running MacOSX Leopard (waiting for a port of MorphOS someday) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4809 - Release Date: 02/14/12 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 + Tiger: iTune 9?
I have a G3,350 Mhz with no fire wire. It has 9.2.2 What is max HDD it will accept? How much ram? The disk drive is read only. Will it accept a CD RW or DVD RW? I want to make this a Panther or Tiger with Classic capabilities,or dual boot. OS 9 or OSX. Is this doable? Gene H -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cannot boot OS X
OK I removed the OS 9 disk. I booted up into 9.2.1. From there, I slected HD bootup.(Had to read up on OS 9 to do it. I can boot up on either OS X or OS 9 System preferences. Great! Next step. Get into Classic. Dang! What I have now is dual boot,I guess. But,not classic. I`m not thatexperienced in MAC,but I quickly follow advice. (PC and MAC desk tops. Gene H - Original Message - From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Cannot boot OS X On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Gene Henley wrote: I have a Quicksilver G4 with Tiger. I installed OS 9.2.1. I can boot into OS 9.2.1 if I hold the C key down. But if I try to boot into my OSX,The screen says The system software on the startup disk only functions on the original media,not if copied to another drive. Could I have somwhow messed up my OSX preferences? If I did,How do I get back to OS X to find out? That message is one you get if you copy the OS 9 system folder from an installer disk onto the hard disk and attempt to boot that OS from the hard disk. Holding down the C key boots from the CD-ROM, not the HD. What it sounds like is that: You still have the installer disk in the optical drive. You copied the System Folder from the installer disk rather than ran the installer. By some means the Startup Disk was set to the copied OS 9 system folder on the HD. Try booting with the option key held down. This should give you a screen showing every bootable system available to the computer from any attached drive. I would use the Option key and boot into OS X. Then delete the OS9 System Folder on the HD then boot from the installer disk and install OS 9. Also open System Preferences, select Startup Disk and select your OS X System folder. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Cannot boot OS X
I have a Quicksilver G4 with Tiger. I installed OS 9.2.1. I can boot into OS 9.2.1 if I hold the C key down. But if I try to boot into my OSX,The screen says The system software on the startup disk only functions on the original media,not if copied to another drive. Could I have somwhow messed up my OSX preferences? If I did,How do I get back to OS X to find out? Gene H -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Don't Landfill old Mac's
I am confused. this list isG3-5-list is it not? If there are OS systems other than Mac that can co exist on the Mac, are these to be not mentioned in this group? I may have missed this in the rules. Cheers Gene Henly From: Eric Hall jester_...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's Of course, I for one, am tired of hearing you shill this o/s. Perhaps a line in your sig, people can email you off list if they are interested. Thanks - Original Message - From: David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: This list is the G3-5 List. It is usable software agnostic. Since MOST people on the list run Mac OS, that is what the main knowledge base is. There are other lists with more knowledgable *nix people on them. That being said, *nix talk is allowed, but remember, most people on the list don't have a lot of knowledge or interest there. Just remember, this is not the Swap List. Len Gerstel List Nanny That is good to know. I am just trying to be a good list member and not step on anyone's toes here, so that is why I am being careful with any discussions about alternative OSes for these G4 Mac models. I'll try to keep this as brief as possible, with respect to others on the list that have no interest in using an alternative OS on their G4 Mac computers, after all MacOSX is the best OS available on any hardware. ;-) The alternative OS that I am a strong supporter of is called MorphOS and is currently at version 2.7. It is based on a micro-kernel called Quark and is tightly coded to make it extremely fast and efficient. It has been dubbed The Lightning OS by many reviewers, and if it is setup as the primary OS on a G4 Mac computer, it can reboot in less than 10 seconds to a fully functional desktop environment. MorphOS3.0 is late and should be released any day now. It has been developed by a small group of mostly European members who are all former Amiga users who wanted to create a modern Amiga replacement operating system that would run on PowerPC CPU's. The last and highest performing Amiga hardware was created by a third party company named Phase5. They made a few different models of accelerators for Commodore Amiga computers that had both a Motorola 68040, or 68060 (remember when Mac's only had Motorola 680x0 CPU's?) and a 603, or 604e PowerPC CPU. The accelerator came with a modified OS that could run certain software on the PowerPC CPU, but would then task switch back to the Motorola 680x0 CPU to run the rest of the Amiga software. It was a clunky solution and came too late, as Commodore was already on the ropes and about to go bankrupt, but still development continued long after Commodore died and these people from Phase5, along with many other Amiga users/developers that would not let the platform die, began the MorphOS project. It was first hoped that the new owner of the Amiga IP would buy their work and it would have become the new AmigaOS, which would have been version 4 (as the official AmigaOS ended at version 3.9). It was not to be and another company won the negotiations to write AmigaOS4.x and we now have competing products in the Amiga community. Enough on the history lesson. All you need to know about it is that MorphOS has been under development for over 10 years now and has become a very polished and efficient operating system, but it still lacks in sheer numbers of developers and native software, even though it can run most of the thousands of software titles that were originally written for the Amiga line of computers through a JIT (Just-In-Time) 680x0 to PPC translator that is built into the MorphOS operating system. The only Amiga software that does not run without an emulator on MorphOS, is mostly games and a few other applications that do not follow the system guidelines and hit the old Amiga custom chipset directly, as these custom chips do not exist in the computers (like G4 Mac's) that are supported today by MorphOS. MorphOS is not intended as a replacement for MacOSX (except perhaps for only the most hardcore old time Amiga users). It is what is commonly referred to as a Hobby OS that a few thousand users and developers enjoy using and mostly only has interest for people that were former users of the Amiga line of computers, or others that just enjoy exploring alternative operating systems and software, like the nix users. This list is a perfect place to promote MorphOS, because it is made up of people that appreciate older PowerPC hardware and because over the last few years the MorphOS Development Team has ported MorphOS to several G4 Mac computer models, such as: All G4 MacMini's 1.25GHz 1.42GHz G4 eMac's All G4 PowerMac's with AGP video card
Don't Landfill old Mac's
From: schaf...@comcast.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's If Dave sounds like he's trying to sell you on the OS it's because he's a believer. Trust me, there's NO money to be made on the Amiga side of things. Just folks who think we were cheated out of a good OS years ago. So as an owner of a G3, a G4, and a G5, I'm interested in hearing about it. In that spirit: Dave, is there a modern browser available for MorphOS? hint: keep your answer short. ;^) Peter -- I don`t join the crowd. I want to stay on the mission of our group. As far as I am concerned, if I don`t read a specific offer for software on this site,I`m not bothered. I am very interested in software which can co exist with MAC OS. As it is, I am a member of groups that meet on LI. Sometimes PC. Sometimes MAC. If we are to exclude other OS questions other than MAC,then I wonder if we win or lose in learning the various ways that a G machines can be used. I`m not going to have a bent nose about it. If the moderator specifically forbids such,I will not make it an issue. As far as I`m concerned,discussion over. Must I take a pledge not to put Microsoft commercial software on a Mac,or MAC on my PC? Cheers Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G5 won't power on
Mine won`t turn on,either. You could sell it. I`ve seen them for sale on ebay, non working. I am debating whether or not to replace capacitors. There is a history of their being defective,and very difficult to properly replace. It`s called wave soldering,I was told.As a hobby,I might try,if I have someone personally mentoring me. :-D Cheers Gene From: faithie999 faithie...@hotmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: iMac G5 won't power on checked the power supply. both 12v outputs read 11.56. since this is a hand-me-down from someone who already replaced their computer, i don't think i'll spend any more time on it. just hate to see it go to a landfill. can't in good conscience part it out since i don't know what's wrong with it. thanks ken On Jan 3, 11:10 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:43 PM, faithie999 wrote: None of the caps are visibly damaged, but I know that doesn't mean that one or more aren't faulty. If none are popped, I don't think it's likely the problem. I'd look for something else. It sounds a lot like a bad power supply, which you can check with a multimeter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4722 - Release Date: 01/04/12 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Quicksilver sleep
I decided to add a four port USB 2.0 card to my Quicksilver. This one has a NEC chipset. It works well ,except my sleep function no longer functions.I removed the card. Sleep funtion now works. I am confused. Any solutions? Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
POLITICAL STATEMENT?
I understand wiki. I was taught this in Catholic parochial school under Rhetoric and Debating. Now, PLEASE. Let`s get on with the purpose for which this forum exists. Cheers Gene Henley US Navy veteran From: Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:32 AM Subject: Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT? On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:41 AM, John Callahan wrote: In the original post the poster referred to the United States as a Socialist country! I take high offense at that extreme denunciation as I am a veteran of WWII and associate Socialist with the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, commonly known in English as the NAZI PARTY. I think it an insult of the first order to associate our country with something as vile as the NAZI PARTY! This is a straw man argument. The original poster does not associate socialism in general with the Nazi party. You're acting as if he does, and the consequence is that you feel insulted. To stop feeling insulted, simply recognize that no insult has occurred. Also, please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law before responding. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver
Thanks for input. My video card is a Rage 128 Pro. I also have a 900-04023-4313-60E which has a 28v notation. I intend to put a four port 2.0 USB card in. Gene Original Message - From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver I have Tiger,and 1 gig of memory. I had a very similar G4 (G4 DA 667). IMHO, 1GB Ram is enough for common use, but it's not if you're using heavyweight apps (Adobe InDesign and Photoshop, and the like), or you like keeping lots of apps open. Upgrading to 1,5GB (Quicksilver's max) can somehow improve speed, I think. I think a CPU upgrade is the most speed-effective upgrade you can do. Second one would be a better graphic card, especially if you're into videogames (I am :-). Which graphic card you actually have? Perhaps a modern and big IDE drive would give you the same speed improvement, and in a simpler way. (a SATA drive would make transition to a future G5 - or better - simpler, thou) BTW, there's a simple hack to make drives bigger than 128GB totally usable in old G4s (in OSX, at least). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Upgrade my Quicksilver
Thanks. I`m on it. Gene From: Jonas Ulrich To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver If you end up putting in a SATA card, you won't have to worry about the 128GB limit, at least with the drives connected to that card. Max the ram out to 1.5GB. Put in a SATA card. If you have the stock video card, it's most likely good enough for anything but gaming. As far as an optical drive upgrade, you can put pretty much anything in there that is IDE. As far as a processor upgrade goes, if possible, put a Dual 1GHZ processor in. Only if you can find a reasonable price though, otherwise it may not be worth it. Anything that Sonnet sells, like the 1.8GHZ Dual, would be best, but usually the price for that processor alone is higher than the price of a high end G5 PowerMac. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Upgrade my Quicksilver
I am trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 733Mhz. I`m open for most suggestions EXCEPT Get rid of it and buy a G5. PLEASE! I have Tiger,and 1 gig of memory. I was given a 1 gig QuicksilverCPU,unknown reliability. I have a SATA internal drive which I have been advised will give me a faster computer if an internal SATA card and driveare installed What are opinions about the Highpoint Rocket SATA PCI-Express 2.0X1 controller? An ebay seller advertizes a 1.25 Gig Quicksilver CPU without heat sink. I`m confused. I did not know Quicksilver was 1.25 gig cpu spec. capable. Maybe that CPU is actually MDD? I`m listening. Thanks Cheers Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Which G5 or older Mac
I have a Quicksilver 733Mhz. I have a SATA HD that I`d like to install. I`d like find a SATA card,reasonably priced, so that I could have an internal SATA. I also have a USB 2.0 card with four ports. A friend gave me a one gig CPU fan. I wonder why my Quicksilver does not have that fan. If I am successful in putting this upgrade together, I intend to use it for a home direct selling business. I suppose I could buy a G5,but I don`t see why. The CODB startup is tight. I`ll stay tight with this group as I proceed. I have a working AD 733Mhz. That has a CPU fan. I`ll use it as I work on the Quicksilver. Gene www.thinkgene.stemtechbiz.com : Which G5 or older Mac On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: My bad. See http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/mac-benchmarks/ Your QS has a benchmark rating of 857. As another poster stated, stay with the 2.3GHz G5, air cooled, it has a benchmark of 1967, about 2.3X your current QS. Can't say that sounds a lot faster ... with the increased bus speed of the G5, you'd think it would register faster than what seems to be a cpu speed factor ... I wonder if the QS was using an SATA drive off a PCI card like I do, and would show a better comparison between machines? That might even narrow the gap though, if they are not, and it is factored into the benchmark. Any one else have suggestions on a reasonably priced upgrade? Does Rosetta work well, so that if I went Intel, I could still run all my PPC apps? I know very little about the Rosetta idea. The Dual 2.3 GHz G5 sounds like the upper limit for PPC. My art business is a bit slow in the Sales Department ... Thanks for all the suggestions so far ... I decided to switch my DA for my QS by trading hard drives and video cards ... using the QS now for my daily work, and my DA for my display / connection to my LED TV. Speed was not important to the TV and the QS is noticeably faster for my daily music and visual arts work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
Thanks. Is there a different heat sink? Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected I have a Quicksilver 733Mhz G$ Tiger. Ebay has a 1gig dual up for bid. Is it possible to upgrade to 1 gig cpu? It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
Many thanks. I`ve been told that I should upgrade the CPU, possibly the video card, and install a sata internal drive with card. I`ll take the advice. Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected Thanks. Is there a different heat sink? It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well. Most definitely. Although the form factor of the processor card is the same between single and duals, and the bottom side is the same, the placement of the PPC chip or PPC chips are different, so the top side is quite different. A single processor heat sink has the provision for one centrally located processor. A dual processor heat sink has the provision for two offset processors. The heat sink mount is the same. A single processor heat sink will not cover the two processors on a dual processor, and this is a known fact. A dual processor heat sink possibly could be modified to cover a single processor, but this is conjecture. The raw (i.e., unpopulated) dual processor boards are identical between the QS 2001 dual 800 MHz and the QS 2002 dual 1000 MHz, however the boards are stuffed completely differently because of clock generator and processor voltage regulator differences. I would, therefore, expect that the heat sinks would be the same between the QS 2001 and QS 2002, within single and dual models. As always, the PPCs are run so very hot that it is important when dismounting a processor to keep its heat sink with the processor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
I have a Quicksilver 733Mhz G$ Tiger. Ebay has a 1gig dual up for bid. Is it possible to upgrade to 1 gig cpu? Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
upgrade 9.1 to 9.2.1
I bought a g4 from ebay with Tiger upgraded. I want to upgrade to 9.2.2 free from internet download. Is that possible? If so,how? I want to have classic capability. Thanks Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Geforce 7800 locks up
I have a G4 QUICKSILVER . I`d like to upgrade to usable classic. My screen says I have 9.1. I must upgrade. How? I understand that upgrades are available from Apple online. Is this true? Are these free or must I purchase any upgrade? Thanks Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Keep the Sawtooth?
I have an iMac G3,an Audio Digital G4,a Quicksilver G4,a Gigabit Ethernet,and a 7200/100. I use them all. I am in a Hypercard discussion group and still use classic.I am in the learning mode in this group. PS. I`m still looking for legal Tiger used OS installs. Cheers Gene From: Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Keep the Sawtooth? On 20/04/11 7:11 AM, Vic wrote: I have every model of G4 tower Yikes, Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, Digital Audio, Quicksilver, MDD. I'm clearing out a few things and I'm trying to think of a compelling reason to not get rid of the Sawtooth and I can't think of one. Is there one? Because then your collection will be incomplete... If you have space for all the others, I think you can hold onto one more---yes? And Vic is right... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QS 733 freezes
So did mine. I finally found a defective CD rom drive defective. I replaced it and so far,so good. Memory and peripherals can cause problems. Gene From: shirley allan shirleyallan1...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:17 AM Subject: QS 733 freezes Our BW 450 (Tiger) could do everything we needed until u-tube. We recently got a QS 733 with 512 ram, which should be fast enough. Unfortunately, when we got the QS home we discovered that it, freezes anywhere between 30 seconds to five minutes of operation (whenever the machine warms up?) Advice on what to check, replace or fix first? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
According to the site I referenced,BOTH the G4 Quicksilver and Audio Digital are 22 pins. Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:57 AM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series. Fry's Electronics sells the pins in bags of 100. If you have, say, a 24 pin housing, then you may cut it down to 22 pin. Obviously, the reverse is not possible. A possible source for housings is old PC PSUs. These use the same Mini-Fit Jr series as Apple does, but a different configuration (20 or 24 pins). Try Digi-Key for the pin housings. Also the pins and possibly the tools. Or, your friendly Molex distributor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
I don`t have a QUICKSILVER. I have an Audio Digital. Gene - Original Message - From: Miguel Garcia-Gell To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:09 AM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! Keep The Quick Silver!!!...The AD G4 is a nice PPC but what you try to do is like MJ moon walk. On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. Cheers Gene http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
Why do I need connectors? Look at the pinouts of the Quicksilver G4 and the AD. Both are 22 pins. Gene From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors modified to do things like that. Have you googled it? talking to myself as others watch ... is this related: http://atxg4.com/quicksilver.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
This is what I thought! What confused me was why so many forums on older Macs seem to avoid the question.I don`t have a Quicksilver supply yet. I`m searching ebay. I think the Quicksilver has a four pin plug that the Audio Digital does not have. So, I won`t use it. It probably supplies power to the processor in the Quicksilver G4. PS. I also have some ATX supplies. Cheers Gene From: dc dbc...@verizon.net To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:24 AM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! On Mar 30, 12:57 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series. It's easy to remove the purple +28V wire from a QS PSU, you don't need special tools. You just need 2 heavy duty sewing needles; push them in the sides of the pin to compress the lock tabs and pull the purple wire out, shazam! you have a Digital Audio PSU! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
According to the diagram(pinouts) of the site I referenced, the pin colours,numbers,and voltages are the same. Quicksilver and Audio Digital are identical in main 22 pin connector. Do you agree? Cheers Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. OF COURSE it may be modified. The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least internally. The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo. If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is considerably simplified. I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex (Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc distributors. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver power supply
Is it possible to use a Quicksilver G4 power supply in a digital audio G4? Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver power supply
OK. I hope we understand that I refer to Quicksilver G4,not MDD. Discounting the requirement for separate 12v supply to processor, why cannot the Quicksilver be used? Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Quicksilver power supply Is it possible to use a Quicksilver G4 power supply in a digital audio G4? No, 24 pins + 4 pins (two cables) in QS; 22 pins (one cable) in DA. Although the two are basically the same mobo (4 PCI slots, 3 RAM slots, similar processor location) the power distributions are quite different (separate 12 volt supply for the processor in a QS). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. Cheers Gene http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Cannot put my G4 to sleep.
I have a G4 Tiger. If I command sleep, the monitor sleeps. It will not awake.The computer does not sleep.. If I shut down, it will not turn on unless I reset the PMU. Can I replace the PMU? If so, where is it? Battery replaced. Checked ram. Checked cards. Checked cables. Checked power supply.No. I don`t want to give this to Apple for repair. I want to troubleshoot and repair myself. I realize the opposition from Apple, but where there is a problem, there is a cogent solution. Cheers Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 OSX 10.3.7
Is there any hope of finding working browser for my computer? Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
I was given a G4 Power Mac digital audio. I think about 700 Mhz.I`m new to Mac. I recognized the click of death in the HD, and replaced it with a 80 gig. I used the restore disk with the three install disks that came with it.I replaced the cd drive with a Samsung SH-S214D.So far. So good. The Samsung does not burn. Burn not supported. Reads DVD and CD fine. I suspect that I need unsupplied drivers and/or patches from third party.I`m looking for toast 6 and/or toast on ebay. I don`t want to upgrade to Tiger. Not Yet.The Mac is not on internet. My idea is to download files to a PC and transfer appropriate files by flash drive to the Mac. I don`t want to hub the Mac or rout it with the PC yet. If I can use the Samsung Lightscribe,I`d like to do so. OK. I`m open :-)* PC to Mac![?]* Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list 000.gif
