Re: .mac email
I've been much frustrated by Apple's dropping my .mac account and the subsequent hassles of using online icloud mail with OS 10.4. So I was very happy to see the postings here that I could get my Apple mail to my desktop via an IMAP account. I just want to let the members of this support group know that you have really helped me and that I appreciate it. BTW, for years I had a paid .mac account ($100.00/year) and I wonder why Apple couldn't have notified me that I could switch over to an IMAP account instead of just dropping me? When they switched to iCloud I just got a .mac screen saying .mac no longer works. Rather lame way for Apple to handle a paying customer when there was a good (IMAP) working solution available. == On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Judith Berkowitz wrote: On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, oneoftheharts wrote: So, having never really preferred web-based email, now that I can access my email AT ALL from my Mac, is it possible to treat it as a POP account and resume using Mail? My OS is 10.4.11. On Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:40:20 AM UTC-7, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Not as POP, but it is available as an IMAP account as follows: http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudmail.html These instructions are for Leopard and Snow Leopard, but since it's for setting up iCloud as a straight IMAP mail account it should work in any version of OS X. Running OS X10.4.11 I've been using Apple's Mail client, Mail, with iCloud since the demise of MobileMe. Set up for Tiger is detailed here: http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudmail2.html Make sure your Apple ID Password is at least eight characters, of which at least one must be a numeral and one a capital letter! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. In other words the computer has seized and there is no option but to kill the power. When I get the computer restarted I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? I operated this computer for years with other operating systems without a freeze or a seize or a crash. I'm thinking I wasted my money on OS 10.5. Anyone have any ideas that might be helpful here? James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 and OS 10.5
I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Thanks for your help. James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerMac G5 Quits
My G5 just shuts down and restarts itself. And often freezes up. Does this sound like a faulty power supply to you folks? Thanks, James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sleep coolant pump on G5 PM
I have two G5 PowerMac 2.5 Quads and when I leave them running all the time I do see a difference in my electric bill. I would sure like to see a definitive answer to your question about sleep. I'll be watching replies with interest. === On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:47 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 PowerMac Dual 2.7 with the Delphi liquid cooled heat sink. I recently had to rebuild the heat sink due to leakage, I've seen on the list that some say if you never shut them down they wont corrode and leak,. What I need to know is if in sleep mode is the pump still running as to keep the fluid moving and preventing corrosion, I know the fans stop but what about the pump? I sure don't want to have it running full on and keep Edison in dough if I don't have to:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
My Powermac 2.5 Quad recently shut itself down while I was using it. I was alarmed until I looked at my APC Back-UPS XS 1000 (a relatively expensive battery backup unit) and discovered that it was switching itself from line power to battery power and back for no reason. Three other identical battery backup units in the office were operating normally so I did not suspect bad electrical power. After the G5 was moved onto another battery backup the problem went away. If you are hooked up to a battery backup unit be sure to check to see if it is operating correctly. On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 10:55 -0800 1/3/11, Leo Hoyt wrote: I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? Don't overlook the possibility of a problem with your power cord or the surge arrestor it's likely hooked to. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I have two 1.25 GHz MDD G4's, bought them new, and have used them heavily for graphics work from the start. I vote for them as the most reliable G4, but with one caveat. The air intake grill is set up under the front foot and it is possible to not know it is there or to forget to keep it clean. If it gets clogged with dust you will probably get a power supply failure. The power supply on both mine failed at the same time but, having it repaired was easy, and they are back at work. I'll accept the blame for not keeping the air intake grill free of dust. == On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, Most Reliable G4 Tower: MDD Dual 1.25 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD G4 Power Supply Repair
Since the issue of MDD G4 power supply problems has been discussed on this forum I wanted to report on my experience. I had power supply failures in both my dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's. Symptoms were occasional failure to start progressing to more start failures and then to the computer quitting while it was running. Pushing the start button on the front resulted in a light that went out with no start. After considering several options I decided to take the power supply out of both computers and send them to National Ram Electronics at Alpine New York for repair. They charge $89.00 for repair. Cost me about $14.00 to ship the 2 power supplys and they paid the return shipping. They have a one year replacement warranty. They also sell a reconditioned power supply for $149.00. I got a fast turnaround and both units are back in the G4's and working good as new. Used G4 power supply units go for about $100. on eBay and there is the risk that a used one is nearing it's failure date. I installed an extra fan in both G4's because this computer was designed to move lots of air and, responding to complaints, Apple came out with a firmware update that slowed the fans down. I'd rather have a little extra noise than overheating. Both the 400 watt and the 360 watt power supplies will work in any MDD G4. I have one of each, they are both 24 pin, and I don't see any difference in them. Here is the link to the National Ram Electronics repair website: http://www.natramelec.com/ James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD G4 Power Supply variations
I have a pair of Dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's which have been my graphics workhorses since I bought them new. Recently the power supplies failed on them both within a few days of each other. I removed the power supplies and was surprised to find that the power supply in the first computer I bought is an AcBel 400 Watt Rev B and the power supply in the second one I bought a few months later is an AcBel 360 Watt Rev A. Does anyone know why Apple used two different power supplies in two virtually identical G4's? Or which one is the better power supply? Did they have problems with the 360 W and replace it with the equally undependable 400 W? These AcBel power supplies were made in China. Doing a little reading I quickly discovered that Apple had problems with them immediately. There is an online service, National Ram Electronics, that repairs the AcBel G4 power supplies. Does anyone know if these bits of Chinese junk are worth repairing? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
I bought one MDD G4, found I needed a second one, bought the second one a couple or three months later. Thereafter I used them both, side by side, rather heavily. So both received virtually the same use and they are almost the same age. I put in new battery backups to address the possibilities you raised. Some have suggested that the 400 W power supply was brought out as a quieter system to address G4 noise complaints? I am considering scrapping these G4's because used power supplies on eBay are costing close to $150.00 with shipping. These power supplies have a poor service record and a used one is a risky investment. I presume that new ones are going to cost more than the G4's are worth? National Ram Electronics will repair G4 power supplies for $90.00 each and that seems to be the minimum cost to put the G4's back in service. === On Oct 7, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:22 PM -0400 10/7/2010, James Morgan wrote: I have a pair of Dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's which have been my graphics workhorses since I bought them new. Recently the power supplies failed on them both within a few days of each other. Were the Macs purchased and put into service at the same time too? Two supplies gaking together is very strange - look upstream in your power chain for a blown surge protector, floating ground, etc. Don't just ignore this problem; other devices could be at risk! I removed the power supplies and was surprised to find that the power supply in the first computer I bought is an AcBel 400 Watt Rev B and the power supply in the second one I bought a few months later is an AcBel 360 Watt Rev A. Does anyone know why Apple used two different power supplies in two virtually identical G4's? Or which one is the better power supply? Did they have problems with the 360 W and replace it with the equally undependable 400 W? Apple didn't do anything other than give the contractor the specs from which to build the machine. That contractor probably ran out of the one supply and substituted another. Or perhaps the one with the bigger supply was built with video or extra HDs that required it? Could be many reasons. Either way, 40W is no big deal. There is an online service, National Ram Electronics, that repairs the AcBel G4 power supplies. Does anyone know if these bits of Chinese junk are worth repairing? Unless the repair is very simple and inexpensive, I'd just replace 'em. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end. I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault. I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply. = On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. Well, this only happens when I am not using it. Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)? I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other hub. Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Water Cooler Power Mac G5
Thanks for all the replies concerning the liquid cooled g5's. They were very helpful. I have a g5 and, turns out, it is air cooled. However, I am thinking of buying an air cooled 2ghz g5 to replace my 1.25 ghz MDD g4. Does anyone know if I can simply take the hard drives out of the g4 and move them to the g5? = On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:44 AM, John C wrote: On Sep 2, 9:24 am, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: Which models of the G5 were water cooled, and, how do we determine if we have one? If you have a PM G5 just open the side panel and slide off the G5 processor cover and you will see the hoses, Can't miss it. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Water Cooler Power Mac G5
Which models of the G5 were water cooled, and, how do we determine if we have one? Thanks, James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Launch at Startup
Hey folks, is there a place in the Mac OS where I can tell it what application to launch at startup? I know some applications have a place in their preferences where they can be set to launch at startup, but it seems I remember seeing a place in the Mac OS where I could make those settings? Thanks, James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
Don't do anything drastic to your quicksilver yet. I have two MDD G4's and both of them are cranky when it comes to starting up. One of them shows the same symptoms you describe (push the button, a light shows, flickers and dies) anytime it has been improperly disconnected from the power source. But if I give it some time and keep trying, it starts up again. And after that, if it is shut down properly, it will start properly. So, as a start, try this. Wait a few hours. Push the button. Wait some more. Push the button. Eventually it will start. Mine does. My other MDD G4, even when shut down properly, must be disconnected from the power supply (I just turn off the battery backup and then turn it back on again) before it will start up. = On May 12, 9:13 pm, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried.Am I right in assuming that I would have to replace the harddrive and re- install the os? The problem is thta It had Leopard on it. The cost of the new harddrive ,paying someone to install it and buying Leopard would be more than the $65 I oroginally paid for the computer. The question is ,am I right in having to relace the harddrive? It might be worth it if that is all that is necessary.It is a 1 gig computer and has a 933 processor.Would I have to do more? -- James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
I have been using my MDD G4 (not that far removed from the quicksilver) for months now with a startup button that sometimes flickers, dies and does not start (a problem that began after I accidently disconnected the power while it was running). But given a rest for a few hours it starts fine (after a few tried, of course) and then continues to start so long as it is shut down normally However, if disconnected from the power while running (yep. I did it again) it falls back into the button light flicker and dies mode. But then, given some rest and tried again, starts up and runs fine again. It seems to me if this were a power supply issue that the computer would never start again? Also, I don't see why a power outage would kill a computer power supply? === On May 13, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mirror Door Startup Switch
My MDD G4 appears to have a bad startup switch (the button I push on front to start it). Does anyone know if it is possible to take this switch out and put in a new one? It appears to be fastened in there with pop rivits or some other non-removable attachment. Thanks, James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mirror Door G4's overheating
I should have been more thorough in my first post. When the G4's began to quit the first thing I did was disassemble them so I could clean everything, including the fan blades. (It is especially important on the mirror door G4 to take out the little side fan that blows air to the optical drive(s) because it plugs up underneath where you can't see.) I removed, cleaned and tested the main fans. They are working fine. The only thing I didn't tear down was the power supply, which has a fan (or maybe two?). The mirror door G4's have an air intake in the front bottom that is not visible without lifting up the front of the computer and this is a major plug-up hazard. I have a little computer vacuum, made to get lots of suction into tight places. It really cleans. Both my mirror door G4's are almost as clean as they were new. But the quit problem didn't go away until I installed the oversize Cyclone fans in the upper PCI slots. I want to revert back to the original firmware which revved up the fans and made a lot of noise. If I can't do that I am going to install super duper external 110 volt fans on the outside rear. I used these old fans on Apple 9600's that had been upgraded with five hard drives. These fans really howl. Luckily I am hard of hearing. I'm convinced these two G4's, at least, need more cooling. === =On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:01 PM, dorayme wrote: Though, come to think of it, I could adapt my present one I guess, take out the dust and bag so the air is clean at the other end... mmm ... That's why my old $20-at-a-yard-sale 1950's (?) canister vacuum cleaner is such a prized treasure. I gave up on the newer plastic crap, and the hose plugs right into the back end to provide a blower. I can put a hypoallergenic bag in there so the air coming out is clean, and the motor is a direct drive, no belts to slip. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mirror Door G4's overheating
I bought my pair of mirror door G4's new and the fans were noisy. People complained about the noise. Apple came out with a firmware update that quieted (Slowed) the fans. Recently my G4's have begun to simply quit. I suspected overheating so I installed Antec Super blowers in the upper PCI slots (This big blower takes up two PCI slots) and this solved the problem. My theory is that Apple's firmware update slowed the fans and predisposed the mirror door G4's to overheating problems, especially after they get older and dustier. Does anyone know if I can go back to the original firmware and get the noisy but more effective fan speeds back? Thanks, James K Morgan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
Hey, that worked! I can edit my websites having Safari tell websites it is internet explorer. What a fine trick. Many thanks! === On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James Morgan wrote: Excite upgraded their servers and now I can't edit my old websites there with my G4's running OS 10.4. It looks like I will need to buy a new G5 with OS 10.5 so I can use internet explorer to edit those old websites. Do you know if I can run internet explorer on my mirror door G4's if I upgrade them to OS 10.5? However, a handy feature in Safari (version 4.0.3 in 10.4.11) is the ability to tell web sites it is another browser. I am 99.99% certain that Safari under 10.5 can do the same thing. I set the User Agent on the Develop menu to tell web sites that it is actually IE 8.0 and Excite loaded fine, but I do not know if you can do what you need to do that way, but it is worth a try. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
Excite upgraded their servers and now I can't edit my old websites there with my G4's running OS 10.4. It looks like I will need to buy a new G5 with OS 10.5 so I can use internet explorer to edit those old websites. Do you know if I can run internet explorer on my mirror door G4's if I upgrade them to OS 10.5? = On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: I don't know what the problem could be, but I have a question about this??? Why would you upgrade to Leopard if Tiger was running so great??? I can't find anything that makes Leopard any better then Tiger??? Spotlight is enormously improved in 10.5 over 10.4, that alone is worth the cost of upgrading in my opinion. There's numerous other under-the-hood improvements in 10.5; if your system supports is (and I would use Apple's official support as a guide: 867 Mhz or faster, at least 512 Megs ram (I'd reccomend 1G) ) 10.5 is great. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 Mirror Door Reluctant to Start
When I press the power switch on one of my mirror door G4's the light comes on, fades away, and no start. Fiddle with it for a while and keep pressing the power button, eventually it starts. I leave it running and then, after a day or two, it quits by itself. Anyone have any ideas about why this G4 is so reluctant to run? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Mirror Door Reluctant to Start
The power cord was the problem. The contacts were loose. I removed the plug, squeezed it from the outside to bend the contacts together, then bent them a little more with the point of a pocket knife. When pushed back into the computer it was tight, difficult to push in. 'Ol G4 started right up. Problem solved. I was stumped because I had never seen a computer just quit because of a loose power cord. But that is what was happening. Thanks, === On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Does the battery hold a charge??? And or the power cord might have a frayed wire inside of the insulation somewhere (usually on the ends where it plugs in somewhere wall, computer, or either side of the power box) and it doesn't always charge or keep the computer powered??? I had a problem like this with one of my Clamshells yoyo cord and the battery would only keep me going for around 15-20 mins, but I picked up on this right away because of the lighted ring around the plug on the computer... Green means it was charged up and orange means the battery was charging and then one day I noticed no light so that was telling me there was a problem with the power cord!!! Most of the laptops don't have this light so there is no way to see this... CoolKat -Original Message- From: James Morgan macsh...@mac.com When I press the power switch on one of my mirror door G4's the light comes on, fades away, and no start. Fiddle with it for a while and keep pressing the power button, eventually it starts. I leave it running and then, after a day or two, it quits by itself. Anyone have any ideas about why this G4 is so reluctant to run? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leave Runnin? Or Not?
Is it a good idea to leave my mirror door G4's running all the time? Or is it better to shut them down at night? I''ve been shutting them down at night for seven years. Guess I should have asked this question sooner. James Morgan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
