Re: Utube conversion
On 4/21/10, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Miro will download videos with no problem, and it's free:http:// www.getmiro.com/ Hi, I tried gong to miro.com but couldn't find how to download??? Also tried miros.com with no luck??? Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
[OT] Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?
This discussion really belongs on the lemlists list, not here. On 4/19/10, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I was only suggesting a different forums interface because i answered a question, but now that i think of it i wold much rather stick with the current one. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: You received this message because...
What are you talking about? On 4/18/10, G. E. Dearth g.dea...@web.de wrote: Four of these redundant messages repeated one after the other seems to be the record at the moment but I am sure it won't last long. This list is becoming more unreadable by the day. Is someone asleep at the switch? Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disk Utility choke
Hello try reinstalling your helper tool. On 4/18/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All A new twist to my first problem. I can't get Disk Utility to do a Restore on either my G4 MDD or the PM G5 2.7 both machines have 10.5.8 leopard and both are PPC. When I try to do a Restore the Disk Utility chokes out wit h an error Could not establish communication with helper tool The same error on the G5. Both machines perform the operation in Tiger. I have even reinstalled Leopard from another retail install disk. Both retail installers are universal. I hve also installed new HDDs in both machines so I can't figure anything else I can do to fix this. any ideas? It works just fine on my Itel machine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics
What did the electrition you called have to say about this incident? On 4/17/10, JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net wrote: Topic: My G5 won't start uphttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/711c292c38c26db8 JIM RAPER jazpe...@shawneelink.net Apr 16 06:58PM -0500 ^#128099664707369b_digest_top Hi, Y'All, This morning when I went into my computer/library, I detected a strong electrical smell. The computer system had been shut down Thursday night and was still off this morning. About 3:30 p.m. I used a flashlight to reconnect only my G-5 computer system, punched the start button on the front, and got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Now I'm really concerned, scared, almost terrified. I've had this G-5 only since Dec '09. No trouble except the usual noisy fan(s). Can someone give me a checklist to go through before I haul this heavy behemoth 50+ miles to a repair dealership. My invoice from Powermax lists it as Used Power Mac G5 PCI-X/2.5 GHz Dual Processor 2GB RAM160 GB internal drive, internal SuperDriveKbrd, mouse ATI Radeon 9600 XT Video OS 10.4.11 installed usual 90 day warranty gone past of course. Please suggest away. Jim Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Apr 16 05:11PM -0700 ^#128099664707369b_digest_top On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:58 PM, JIM RAPER wrote: strong electrical smell. The computer system had been shut down Thursday night and was still off this morning. If the Mac was shut down it's VERY unlikely it's the Mac. Now I'm really concerned, scared, almost terrified. I've had this G-5 only since Dec '09. No trouble except the usual noisy fan(s). Where is that Mac plugged in? I suspect that outlet is what fried. Personally, I'd wait for the electrician, or someone like him. I replaced the G5 with this old Sawtooth and had and am having NO problem and am using same cables, power cords, etc. in the same power strip spots. Is ALL power off just because I have Shutdown my computer? Could a coolant leak still short out the system. 6PM -0500 ^ #128099664707369b_digest_top On Friday 16 April 2010 06:58:54 pm JIM RAPER wrote snip system, punched the start button on the front, and got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Now I'm really concerned, scared, almost terrified. I've had this G-5 only since Dec '09. No trouble except the usual noisy fan(s). /snip Check for coolant leaks, since it's a dual 2.5. Check here for more details: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/G5_coolant_leaks.html This is even scarier. I have no User Manual, but I will google to find out how to and where to check for coolant leak. Hope this helps, Caleb -- Caleb S. Cupples Sociology Undergraduate, Tennessee Technological University Vice-President Elect, TTU Unix Users Group Email: cscupp...@gmail.com Tel: 510.859.3573 Let y'all know when I find out. Thanks. Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?
You would have to ask your newsgroup access provider to carry us and sync to/from using a email bridge. On 4/18/10, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Could a way be found to have this group read and posted to in a normal usenet software like MT-NewsWatcher? Would make it so much easier and less clunky to operate with. One of the best groups around because nice people and moderated but not the best choices for access... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: test
On 4/13/10, roman...@ideal-access.com roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: Sorry test what're you testing? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?
On 4/11/10, Ruffin rufw...@gmail.com wrote: I do vaguely recall thinking that using Yellow Dog sidestepped some of the driver issues, but I can't find that now. you can download the latest cd version of yellowdog Linux here: http://ydl.oregonstate.edu/iso/yellowdog-5.0.2-20070711.iso latest DVD: http://ydl.oregonstate.edu/iso/yellowdog-6.2-ppc-DVD_20090629.iso -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
On 4/9/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Try using a USB external or a big thumb drive as resource and work space. Yeah I bet the slow HD is the prob. if a slow HD is the problem, a USB external will definitely not help because USB is only fast in bursts. If you're going to go tge external route I'd strongly recommend one that has a FireWire interface instead. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Ext Seagate 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4 1. There is a limit on hds, something like 180 Mb, but does this apply to External USB drives? Shows on dt as 500 ok. I sincerely doubt, if there even is a limit, that it's in megabits. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Apple update
On 4/3/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All Apple recently sent out a fairly large update, I got mine on Monday I think. Any way I noticed after installing it that on of my ripper applications stopped working. RipIT is Leopard only and really works well. I updated 10.6.3 MBP Intel and 10.5.8 PM G5 both systems have caused RipIT to fail. I went back to my CCC and it works fine. I'm wondering if anyone else out there has the same experience? I reported it to The Little App Factory and they say they're trying to duplicate the problem. I don't think it's my stuff because I go back to the CCCs just before the Apple update and all is fine. Well maybe it's for the better, you really should stop pirating movies, it's a violation of federal law. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G3 With Squeaky Hard Drive
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, geno.y gene.y...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, The other day I bought 2 brand new SCSI drives from Computer Geeks off ebay. The drives were so cheap, I couldn’t resist. I got what I paid for. Both new drives make a squeaky sound, sort of like a squeaky wheel. It’s consistent, happens every 35 seconds or so. I know this isn’t a good thing, but does it mean imminent drive failure or is it just a nuisance sound? Open them up and spray wd-40 on the moveable parts. Hey, John, you are joking right? Haha, yeah. Saw this thread right after reading http://digg.com/tech_news/Squeaky_Hard_Drive_Don_t_Spray_WD40_on_it and I just couldn't resist. g -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Response from Canon - MultiPASS (KMM10890786V93678L0KM)
the latest drivers and, I think, (how do I check that they are installed) installed them. The printer shows in Print Fax and in the utilities/Printer setup utility as stopped and when I try to start it the ball spins and then it says no printer driver found I am at a complete loss. Can you help me? Thank you John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fwd: Response from Canon - MultiPASS (KMM10890786V93678L0KM)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:23 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: John, is this a multifunction printer? If so, does the scanning portion work wirelessly? Mine is not multifunction, but there are wireless multifunction printers: http://www.nextag.com/multifunction-printer-wireless/search-html. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Response from Canon - MultiPASS (KMM10890786V93678L0KM)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: Diane, yes it is multifunction and no the scanner will not work wirelessly. For scanning I switch the USB cable over to another computer. The reason I need the wireless connection is so I can print from my G4 Ti-book. I primarily scan photos and generally do it in batches. I'm not entirely sure on this because your experience has typically been mine, but I would think multifunction printers with wireless networking support builtin would also support wireless scanning. A friend of mine actually has a ethernet enabled multifunction printer and it does support scanning over the network which is really nice. So in short, it seems to me that any multifunction printer with some sort of networking builtin should support scanning over that interface. But YMMV. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:00 PM, John Musbach wrote: wow!!! That sucks, I had no idea. I have a belkin ups and have had no issues whatsoever with it. But now with this news I guess I'll just dispose of it after it/the battery stop working since I'll no longer be able to get repairs/replacements. The batteries used in these units (AAPC;s too) tend to be standard lead-acid sealed batteries. Try someplace like Batteries Etc. for replacements, if they have them in your area. Oh ok cool, that's good to know. The battery hasn't been much of a issue so far so I haven't had to check and see if it's something generic or proprietary but it's good to know that most likely the only thing I won't be able to replace is the unit itself which so far, seems like it'll outlast the battery. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: File transfer not happening
On 3/27/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:44 AM, John Musbach wrote: That's why when doing big transfers like this I tend to use Terminals cp because it is significantly more robust then finder and will continue despite errors and will display where exactly it ran into trouble along the way so once it's finished you can go back and investigate the problematic files/folders. Could you briefly state how to do that? Terminal is kinda over my head. Sure, it's: cp -R src dest, where src and dest are full directory paths. It should then copy all that it can despite errors and print errors it encounters along the way onto the terminal. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS
On 3/27/10, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:51 PM, diane wrote: How about Belkin? I've had great luck with their products as well but admitedly have not purchased anything new in a few years (and I should). Some of Belkin's UPS products were problematic: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1562 The company is now out of that business: http://www.tripplite.com/en/lp/belkin-ups/index.cfm wow!!! That sucks, I had no idea. I have a belkin ups and have had no issues whatsoever with it. But now with this news I guess I'll just dispose of it after it/the battery stop working since I'll no longer be able to get repairs/replacements. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Mac's can't connect to WAP
Hmm, perhaps this hypothesis could be proven by trying to use this troublesome wifi system with ie5 for mac on the troublesome mac(s)... On 3/22/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Because the system is asking for some response back from the Mac that isn't getting, because it's using IE-specific Javascript or something. Or it's just plain crappy software. If WinPC's work just fine and nothing else does, it's almost certainly an IE-only situation. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: To Journal or not
I would strongly recommend you enable joirnaling because not all filesystem changes are written to the physical HD medium until shutdown but are tentatively recorded in the journal which helps prevent data loss in the event of unexpected shutdowns. If there's no journaling and a unexpected shutdown occurs there's a better chance of data loss than were journaling enabled. On 3/22/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a new Hitachi 2TB HDD and I'm going to put it in an eSATA external enclosure for music and movie storage. I read some where that a journaled drive can be slower than one that's just Mac OS extended. I ask because my son has two of these large drives and his boot time can be really long and we were told it's because the journaled drives are a drag on the system. Is there any support for this or is it picking pepper fro fly s..t? JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA sent from my Wally 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: OT 1966 iMac
Your link brings me to a photo of a man and his carpet!, not sure what that has to do with iMacs or iSights? On 3/18/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone tell me, do my eyes deceive me or is this an ad for a 1966 lampshade iMac doing iSight conferencing on the desk ? http://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/4431295044/#preview -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Safari 4.0.5 memory leak?
Did any of you file a radar report and report this to apple? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hd all of a sudden FULL??
Next tine please upload file to list for analysis because that's common link to viral infection of the computer. On 3/10/10, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I did... 1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions, then erase free space... now it says it's full? where before there was only 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid here? any ideas? Jeff What machine ? Google your machine with the search term hard drive limit or search the LEM machine profiles. Some machines have system access limits. You can also search the LEM archive for info on your machine. Did it ever really see the half Terrabyte ? G5 2.3 Power Mac (early 2005) Solved. for some reason, a folder named recovered items was put in the trash when I erased free space that was 463 gb in size maxing out the HD, googled around, emptied the trash bingo! Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pros Cons of Stacking HDs
Replace those droves asap since grinding means failing hard drive. On 3/10/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: The sleds provided by Apple, only allow about 1/4 between 2 Seagate HDs (750GB and 500GB ones). That works just fine. The spacing is just as small in our big rack- mounted SAN and that has 12 or 16 big drives in it grinding along 24/7. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On 3/9/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:52 PM -0600 3/8/2010, Ralph Green wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:54 -0500, Dan wrote: I can see where a client computer could have problems if it's too close to a high powered WAP, by being overwhelmed etc. But it would have to be darned close. Never heard of lower performance etc. No idea where you'all are getting that. cite? This is anecdotal, but I did observe it first hand. At the 2008 PyCon, the wireless network performance was very bad at first. Our head network guy made 2 changes. He changed the channels on some of the access points. The wireless contractor had set them all up on the same channel. Our guy also lowered the power on the access points. He told me that both changes were needed. The higher power was causing multiple problems, he said. I did not give a lot of details before, because I don't know them. But, our wireless network worked much better after both changes were made. The rooms were pretty big, and so people were not always close to the access points. Too many WAPs in one location, so close that they overlap and step on each other, probably with flourescent lighting here and there -- that's a whole other house of pain! You can cure some of it by repatterning the coverage - changing the channels. And when that's not enough, then you need to reduce the power to further reduce the overlaps. In this particular thread, however, we're talking about needing to provide coverage over a distance, to a place where there is no coverage at all! No overlaps etc. Personally, I think the best solution would be to purchase a cell tower. Sure the FCC might eventually come knocking on your door but until then and as long as your network is secured with a very strong password... g -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Setup Mac Mini G4 as print/fax server
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone can say about a program that would allow faxing through Ethernet? Probably something like https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/email/internet-fax.asp is what you're after. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Howdy, Higher power may not be the right answer. I helped run the wireless network for a large conference. The network expert who was in charge explained that higher power sometimes causes worse performance. The company who had been hired to setup our network had brought in high powere access points and the performance was terrible. Not only that, but IIRC higher power means a thinner broadcast radius as well--eventually becoming strictly line of sight. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Setup Mac Mini G4 as print/fax server
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Fax is an analog mechanism to use a plain old telephone service line to transmit image data; it is. essentially, a fancy modem with a printer attached. What I never got is why there were never any color fax machines, would've been nice. :) -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:14 PM, iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: Not only that, but IIRC higher power means a thinner broadcast radius as well--eventually becoming strictly line of sight. I'm afraid I wasn't able to parse thinner broadcast radius. What shape (??) results from a thinner (??) radius? Basically, in lower power access points--like consumer Apple airport base stations the signal is broadcast in a circular fashion around the base station. But as the power increases, the signal becomes more and more narrow until at the highest powers the signal is simply broadcast in a line from the access point to the receiving end. At least that's how I understand it. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/7/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: My ADB EVE dongle works on the iMate to USB but the darn extension won't load at Classic start up in Tiger. All's not lost because I have plenty of OS9 bootable machines. I just like to use the G5 some times because I have a VIZIO 36 on it. Funny I always wanted to use MacVector but no money in those days. Also the dongle needs to be blessed for the different applications. What I need really is to be able to use ResEdit or something like it to remove the dongle requirement in the program. I've searched with ResEdit many times but just can't find the code to thrash it. I know their official stance is that they no longer support that product for this os, but have you nonetheless tried calling/emailing them? It's possible that someone who worked on developing that product for this os is still working there and if your request is properly worded they may simpathise with you and provide you with assistance in bypassing what I presume to be their antipiracy measure. Good luck! -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 Capacitor Replacement?
On 3/7/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all! I got another 20 iMac G5. This one is the powermac 8,1 model running at 1.8GHZ. After replacing the power supply it works great. However, when I was replacing the PSU, I noticed that five of it's capacitors are swelling and a few are leaking. Here are my questions: 1. Were can I buy a GOOD quality capacitor replacement kit? 2. How difficult will they be to replace? 3. Could it harm the machine to use it before replacing the capacitors? Thanks in advanced! -Jonas I've fixed some rather expensive TVs doing this and I put in larger capacitors to get longer life from them as long as they physically fit. But that's just me I think replacing them with solid ones would probably suffice as far as longetivity goes. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Setup Mac Mini G4 as print/fax server
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: There is Mac OS X. In Tiger on my Pismo the Print Fax System Preference pane has a tab for Faxing. In Leopard on my MacBook Pro (no modem) there is no sign of Fax with in the pane. In Tiger you can set it to Receive faxes on this computer. You can set it up to save, e-mail and/or print the incoming faxes. I expect you can also send faxes from the print window. The Fax stuff is in 10.5 as well; it's the lack of a modem that keeps your MBP from showing the menu. Aha, that must be why I can't recall ever seeing that option in recent years. Great to know that Mac OS X still has that functionality, could be handy for a impromptu fax machine should I ever need one rather than falling back on paying monthly fees for a email fax service I'll hardly ever use. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SBG900
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:19 AM, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I can go out on the web fine. Gmail doesn't work and my Tivo says something about getting an open port. What do you mean gmail doesn't work? Are you trying to use it through a web browser or via a email client? If you're trying to use it via a email client are you sure you configured your account properly in that client? For instructions on how to setup your client to access your Gmail account using POP go here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?hl=entopic=12912 and select the link for your desired client, likewise IMAP instructions for your client can be had here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?hl=entopic=12913. Good luck! -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:21 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: This nonsense, in America, in 2010...WTF? Yeah well, America is no longer the land of the free and prosperous--it's corporate America. Corporations drive America's innovations, it's for this same reason that we're never going to see health care reform in America while other nations will. Ultimately I think this will be our downfall, corporations will hinder our ability to innovate so much in the future that in comparison to the innovations occurring in other nations we will eventually fall into 3rd world status. It's a very sad state of affairs, but I just don't see any easy way to resolve this issue...such is life. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. They can also say you're eligible when you're not--like ATT did for my family. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Setup Mac Mini G4 as print/fax server
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:33 AM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I use a MBP as a printer/fax machine. The machine is on the Gigabit router and all the other machines can access the printers. also the router is wireless so no need for cables. The OS is 10.6.2 but 10.4.11 is OK too. What software do you use to turn your mac into a fax server? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Printer recommendation?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, t...@io.com wrote: In the used market, the HP Laserjet 4M and 4M Plus are highly regarded. Only so long as you have the Postscript update in them; the original Postscript ROM for these has signiifcant issues with modern drivers. I've got a 1994 4M with the old Postscript, on my network via a built-in JetDirect Mechanically it's stellar, but I have continuing issues with print jobs blowing up on PS errors. Along about 10.4 or 10.5 HP yanked the old old HP drivers of their web site, and Apple's HP4M driver just does not work, any time I print anything more complex than plain text it blows up. I don't think that's anything new actually, I recall using those printers at elementary school and on the ones without the newer postscript ROM anything beyond the basics printed gibberish. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Setup Mac Mini G4 as print/fax server
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I use Fax Stuff Pro for faxing from any app that can print and my main printer is a Cannon MP210 print and scan, cheap and very good quality. Oh ok, I meant more like a software solution for allowing people to dialin and send you faxes which are then saved on your computer automatically. I know Windows 9x came with such a solution and I believe Mac OS 9 had similar software based solutions but I don't know if Mac OS X comes with such a solution or if a 3rd party one is available? It seems like with the decline of modems and faxes in general there is little demand for such software and as a result little to no selection for such a application, although ultimately I guess one of the email fax services would work if one was looking for a solution of this type and could not find proper software for their OS. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Printer recommendation?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bill Spencer wrote: So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality, basic b/w, no need for bells whistles, laser printer that won't break the bank and will work well with either machine below? Yes, I know you get what you pay for, but I just can't pay for very much, unfortunately. I've become a big fan of Brother. A Brother HL6050DN. (D==Duplexing; N==Network) Built like tanks, run forever and ever. An EXCELLENT workgroup printer. I second the brother HL line suggestion, I have a HL5250DN and am very happy with it. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9 boot CD
On 2/28/10, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's that came with it to make it boot. Any help is greatly appreciated if you have this exact model. thanks just use the apple mac os 9 NetBoot image to install the os, free, easy, painless. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How will my computer run?
On 2/27/10, The M mstye...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I ordered a PM G4 MDD off of eBay. The seller ripped me off and I didn't get what was advertised. So file a not as described complaint on the transaction in paypal and get your money refunded. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When Macs go evil
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Tonite, however, I noticed that on Angel, the lawyers at the Wolf, Ram, Hart use Macs! OMG! Sorry, but I have to ask... how old are you? :P -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need for list message morphing rule
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Well. I guess that's the glove on the floor. Nannies, you gonna put a nail in this thread or would you care to step in and prove me wrong? It's actually interesting, it's as if the nannies are afraid to respond one way or another on this issue because the two replies we've received on this issue from a nanny have said nothing at all regarding the question at hand regarding the lemlists list. There's something mysterious about that list. Why is it described as the place for discussion such as this yet these discussions are permitted to go on on other lists like this one? Why is it so hard for people to find the lemlists list? Why do nannies typically not reply to threads posted to that list? Has that list just been abandoned? What /is/ the rule for discussions such as this one, or is there one? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need for list message morphing rule
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: For what it is worth, I know nothing of any sort of LEMLIST and hope not to need to. Well then, it'd be wise to read and understand http://lowendmac.com/lists/lemlists.html so that you don't make the same mistake Jonas did. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?
On 2/21/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've received HDs containing patient data several times. Each time I contacted the *patient*, not the seller. ha, I bought a se/30 off eBay and it turned out to have been previously used by a secretary at kpmg and they hadn't erased the hard drive leaving licensed copies of ms word and Claris works on the HD along with records containing corporate account numbers as well as the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every employee, manager, and CEO of the company. Pretty scary to learn that a major tax company doesn't remove such information from their computers before disposing of them. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need for list message morphing rule
On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Need for list message morphing rule Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, and since this list is always monitored and those Niamey's should refuse to publish such morphed replies, I ask the question in keeping with reducing traffic and staying on point, why, why are these messages allowed to be published? It is actually quite ironic that you accuse others of disrupting the list when you too are in fact in the wrong polluting this list with a ot post that belongs on the lemlists list. Nice going, hypocrit. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: FW: Ft. Hood
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: lots of spam What's with this? Nannies? I could've sworn we've received spam from this fellow in the past as well, maybe it's time to ban him? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links to bleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/10 5:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: (tinyurlhttp://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links tobleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? Can you show that it's not. We have a rather decent community here, as you know, John. Well excuse me, I wouldn't recommend software if I knew it was malware. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/10, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: hope youn's all will forgive my stoopid question. ok, so i put the replacement mobo in a G5 DP, and it works fine. so next i'm supposed to run the thermal calibration on the ASD disc, right? otherwise what? the fans will run at top speed all the time? and that's bad because? if it's just a noise issue, i couldn't care less. aren't the processors better off if they get maximum cooling all the time? IS there any actual benefit to the hardware, or some other reason that requires running the thermal calibration app? TIA for all replies. the only calibration you need to do in this respect is a periodical cleaning of the dust from the internals of your mac. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Getting a little intimate are we? g -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: startup disk image
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, James D. Pritchett jpritche...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems i cant find a startup disk for OS 9 to reset my wallstreets password. Is there a way or goto a place to download a disk image file so i can burn a startup floppy disk with my other g3 laptop OS X Tiger. Thanks I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but you can legally download a bootable disk image of Mac OS 9 for free here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Xserve shuts down.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Did it seem to go thru a shutdown sequence, or just drop suddenly? Look in the system log for error messages... The time I witnessed it shutdown I wasn't actually using it but it seemed to happen suddenly. I looked at the system logs before and there is nothing strange except that it typically seems to shutdown a little after midnight. The following link uses archive.org because for some reason Apple seems to have removed the support article even though it's still relevant but I digress. Anyways, to me it sounds like your Xserve may have a scheduled shutdown set. For instructions on how this can be set and how you can thus check to see if it already has been set refer to the following Apple support article: http://web.archive.org/web/20071014050549/http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=152135. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to
On 2/9/10, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote: I want to eliminate the Top Sites Show All Bookmarks icons from my Bookmarks Bar. How can I do this? What browser? Version? What operating system? Version? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: legit software
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net wrote: Has anyone heard of this company or done business with them? Is the software legit? I need CS4 but I'm leery. http://priorismanotes.net/ Those websites always end up getting shutdown, and then they just come up under some other random domain name like that one. In other words, no it's not legit. They're taking pirated copies of software and selling it for pure illegitimate profit. You won't be able to get support for your software, obtain updates, and you may not even be able to use a registration key instead having to resort to a crack to get around the software's antipiracy measures. I would avoid doing business with them, if you really want a illegitimate copy of the software you can find places where you can get the same exact thing that place'll give you for free. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Album track list generator
On 2/5/10, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a good free album track list generator for extracting title and artist data from a folder of tunes? I'm compiling some CDs and want to include liner notes with relevant info. This is probably what you're seeking: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22230/mp3names. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Google is your friend.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net wrote: sometimes the problem is in the phrasing! Good story bro. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: NANNY ! Re:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: The offending thread containing the spam (entitled [no subject]) is still there. This gives the appearance that the main purpose of Group Managers is to spew scolding flames at well-intentioned members, rather than doing useful things like removing spam. Oh noes, it's also still present in all the mirrored archives as well (e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/g3-5-list@googlegroups.com/msg15332.html), whatever will we do?! Realistically with such a method of communication like this, there is no way to delete a message once it has been sent because even if you can delete it from the main archive it'll still have been sent to all email subscribers and it'll appear in any mirroring archives regardless. The only way you can really control this is on a per person basis, and that means deleting the emails you don't want, creating filters for constant nuisances, and ultimately unsubscribing if the majority of the list postings are not useful to you. So really, although the nannies are doing their best to keep things under control (and they're doing a pretty good job at doing so) they can truly only do preventative measures--there is very little that can be done after the fact but they can do preventative maintenance after the fact to help prevent a recurrence both from the offending poster and from other posters as well which is what they've been doing by posting FAQs and warnings publicly to the list. I don't really think there's much more that can be done... -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
On 1/28/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I've booted GUID on PPC Macs myself, so I know that GUID will boot on PPC Macs. Well, I was going by what Apple said in Disk Utility itself: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/DU_part_schemes.png For more information about this partitioning scheme then you ever wanted to know go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: How do you trace bad e-mails back to their origins? These things, mostly VIAGRA ads, are also coming from the G3-G5 list, although I think this one came from someone who has viewed my artsite recently. I usually send them on to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net, but I'd like to follow this one back if possible to their ISP. According to the data you provided, the spam email was relayed through vms169131.mailsrvcs.net whose IP address is 67.215.65.132 which when whois'd through arin.net's IP database returns that that server is owned by OpenDNS. The sender, whose IP is 192.223.124.145 lives in Brazil and it appears either a rogue employee is sending spam or one of the company's machines (more likely) has become infested with malware as that IP returns: owner: Industrias Gessy Lever Ltda ownerid: BR-IGLL1-LACNIC address: Av. Maria Coelho Aguiar, 215 address: Bloco C - 3 andar address: Centro de Informatica address: Sao Paulo address: CEP country: BR owner-c: WG59-ARIN created: 19921120 changed: 19981012 source: ARIN-HISTORIC nic-hdl: WG59-ARIN person: Welson Giovanini e-mail: address: Av. Maria Coelho Aguiar, 215 address: Bloco C - 3 andar address: Centro de Informatica address: CEP 05805 address: Sao Paulo, BRAZIL country: BR phone: +55 11 545 4432 and when the company Industrias Gessy Lever Ltda is googled it turns out to be a cleaning products business (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://industrias-gessy-lever-ltda.br.telelistas.net/vct/produtos-para-limpeza/araraquara/78082070.htmei=rBpeS6ClHIea8Abnvu2TBQsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=1ved=0CA4Q7gEwAAprev=/search%3Fq%3DIndustrias%2BGessy%2BLever%2BLtda%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG). So my best guess as to what's going on is that Industrias Gessy Lever Ltda is a client of OpenDNS with one of their hosted solutions, and there is a internal issue (likely malware) that is attaching itself to the appliance and using it as a spam relay. To get the most likely reaction and action against this act, I would report it to OpenDNS as the problem is coming from one of their clients. How do people get our e-mail addresses from the G3-G5 list? If you google g3-5-list archive you can see that there are multiple archives of this list being maintained apart from the google groups archive, it is possible that one of those archives does not censor email addresses contained in emails sent to the list. It is also possible that a service you at one point subscribed to sold your email address or even that at some point you became victim to a piece of malware that harvested your email address. So in short, although it is possible that your email address was harvested from one of the g3-5-list archives, it is also likely (perhaps more so even) that a service you subscribed to sold your address to spammers or a piece of malware harvested it at one point in time (if you ever used Windows). -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others
On 1/25/10, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Any way to contact them back? or just not the one? as I posted, the spammers ip belongs to a brazillian cleaning product company and along with my information is the phone number if the technical contact. If you know how to speak their language and can afford the long distance fees you could contact the technical representitive directly but ultimately you'll probably get a better response by reporting to opendns their clients use of their services as a spam relay as not only will they be able to communicate in a more professional and direct manner most likely to get a response but they can immediately suspend the clients services as another way to quickly invoke a response and ensure a quick and efficient resolution. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: shut down pop-up
On 1/22/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:08 AM, gifutiger wrote: Greetings You might try opening a terminal window and log in as super user, then enter kill all -9 which should terminate all process's. no it doesn't: dbdev2:~ johnson$ sudo -s Password: bash-3.2# kill all -9 bash: kill: all: arguments must be process or job IDs bash: kill: (-9) - No such process bash-3.2# The kill command HAS to have a process ID explicitly listed. sudo killall * -s9 might work though, I haven't tried it myself for obvious reasons -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: shut down pop-up
On 1/22/10, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: sudo killall * -s9 might work though, I haven't tried it myself for obvious reasons er, I think it has to be sudo killall -r* -s9 or sudo killall -r -s9 * -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: .cdr .dmg. .img ?
On 1/22/10, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone could comment on the comparison between these three file formats: .cdr .dmg. .img ? IIRC, *.cdr is equivilent to *.iso it's just that in all their wisdom apple decided to use the *.cdr extension for iso images produced by disk utility rather than the *.iso standard. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: shut down pop-up
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:25 PM, User roman...@ideal-access.com wrote: Hi group, How do I get rid of the do you really want to shut down? pop-up? Why do you want to do that? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: shut down pop-up
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Does anyone know the key sequence to call shutdown without a mouse? in Terminal it's: sudo shutdown -Ph now, running this will shutdown your system immediately irregardless of the state of any active applications and can be used to shutdown the machine without the shutdown popup warning. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Off-Topic RE: PayPal: Yea or Nay?
On 1/11/10, Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net wrote: Previously, at 6:38 pm -0700 1/11/10, Robert Long wrote: As far as I know you Is this supposed to be on-list? I thought these lists were moderated! aren't you a nanny? You should know the moderation state of these lists, at least I would think so... -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PayPal: Yea or Nay?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying Paypal doesn't have room for improvement. But as services go, they're one of the best out there. And 99.9% of the complaints you see spewed around the 'net are unfounded, usually based on the customer failing to understand how payment processing services, and their own credit cards, work. What about this: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Seller-Central/21-Day-Hold/520175743start=0? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PayPal: Yea or Nay?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Dan Knight wrote in his recent Musings column: PayPal: Yea or Nay? In my case, that's three strikes for PayPal over eight years. It's not a terrible track record, but PayPal's ability to stop you from using the money in your account without warning is a good reason to consider alternatives. Even if you don't stop using PayPal, you may want to have a second option available before you run into an unanticipated account lockout. http://lowendmac.com/musings/10mm/paypal-strikes.html He's not alone, eBay's own forum is filled with complaints: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum/Paypal/97 and there are numerous websites dedicated to PayPal horror stories telling of just such events: http://www.aboutpaypal.org/forums/paypal-horror-stories/ http://www.paypalwarning.com/ http://www.screw-paypal.com/horror_stories/horror_stories.html http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Hence why I do not keep any funds in my account nor keep my bank account associated with my PayPal account. Be careful when you trust PayPal, that's all I have to say about this. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: http://otupuhedu.wtcsites.com/zebacela.html This looks like spam, nannies -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to configure an airport base station snow?
On Tuesday, December 22, 2009, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Were would I be able to find that software for download? Thanks! http://support.apple.com/kb/DL839 -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 44 MB Syquest -- need a driver?
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Tom Field tgfie...@gmail.com wrote: I have 44 MB Syquest hooked up to a QS G4, running OSX.10.11. Have an Iomega zip drive in the terminal SCSI position. The zip drive is recognized, but the Syquest isn't. Everything else seems to be fine. Thanks for any ideas. http://lowendmac.com/macdan/010511mu.html -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 752126910 Your New Username Password
Really weird, indeed it looks like a slammer spoofed my email address. :-( On 12/9/09, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: John, I am pretty sure that you did not send this to the G List. Can you check your outgoing mail just to make sure. The spammers are getting more aggressive on Google groups. They are starting to impersonate subscribed members and then posting to the group. This gets around moderation for new members so they can post to the group. Thanks, and let me know as soon as you can. Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com List Nanny G3-5 List On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:30 PM, John Musbach wrote: Hi grandpa thought this might be of interest. On 12/8/09, Loren Beck quintupledkt...@catsalut.net wrote: Acce pex ssRx pro aq vides Men’s He hua alth prod sd ucts to tr pcl eat ere it ctile dysf pow unction (ED). Cho der ose from all three FD jp A- appr kx oved ED pres brv crip owe tion medi ai cations: Via koh gra, Cia jg lis and Lev zyu itra. Only a small per fg cent fk age of men seek help for ED, alth mwo ough a lar mh ge num um ber of men expe nzh rience it in var rps ying deg cd rees. All three F hq DA-app nfh roved dru bc gs are pro ro ven to be eff qj ective in most hea wv lthy men. See Acces bkv sRx’s prod ir uct information pages for deta gsr ils about dos oh ages, dire mt ctions, side eff ivq ects, pre xbk cautions, freq axb uently ask ah ed ques ja tions, links to manu tq facturer web ki sites and patie ha nt/presc jy ribing infor bj mation. You can also acc cag ess aVia vbf gra, Ci lpd alis, Lev gq itra compa xig rison chart that sum vta marizes medi tdc cation info tn rmation for the thr wi ee ED d qj rugs in one cent aw ral loc djf ation. Via gig gra Silde zx nafil 50/100mg $1.42 Per P smj illMore info C nyq ia tm lis Tada et lafil 10/20mg $1.66 Per P ws illMore info Levi pts tra Vard ptz enafil 20mg $1.72 Per P llw illMore info -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Eudora 6.2 Span Assasin links not syntacticalally correct.
On 12/6/09, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: This link does work. http://inbox.itsamac.com:80/cgi-mod/index.cgi?user=cl...@thecriticalcrab.netpassword=868ec38407066d90e5e558ae7d0980c9et=1260345847locale=en_USrole=_nodomainsprimary_tab=PREFERENCESsecondary_tab=pu_whitelist_blacklistManage your allowed / blocked list http://inbox.itsamac.com:80/cgi-mod/index.cgi?user=cl...@thecriticalcrab.netpassword=868ec38407066d90e5e558ae7d0980c9et=1260345847locale=en_USrole=_nodomainsprimary_tab=PREFERENCESsecondary_tab=pu_quarantine_settingsSet quarantine notification intervals NOTE: the absence of the quotation mark. My ISP provider says: 1. we have no control over the formating of alerts sent from SpamAssassin 2. we don't support Eudora. 3. no problems reported with Mail. SpamAssassnin says: 2009-12-04 14:31:47 UTC --- I do not believe this is a bug in SpamAssassin. We do not provide the interface for Eudora. You will likely need to contact the Eudora programmers or whoever provides the quarantine interface you are using. I'm wondering if anyone else experiences this change would appreciate suggestions on how or whom to approach to correct this. FYI, the link you posted includes the hash of your password which can be reversed and clicking the link logs me in as you automatically. I strongly advise you to change your password asap. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 752126910 Your New Username Password
Hi grandpa thought this might be of interest. On 12/8/09, Loren Beck quintupledkt...@catsalut.net wrote: Acce pex ssRx pro aq vides Men’s He hua alth prod sd ucts to tr pcl eat ere it ctile dysf pow unction (ED). Cho der ose from all three FD jp A-appr kx oved ED pres brv crip owe tion medi ai cations: Via koh gra, Cia jg lis and Lev zyu itra. Only a small per fg cent fk age of men seek help for ED, alth mwo ough a lar mh ge num um ber of men expe nzh rience it in var rps ying deg cd rees. All three F hq DA-app nfh roved dru bc gs are pro ro ven to be eff qj ective in most hea wv lthy men. See Acces bkv sRx’s prod ir uct information pages for deta gsr ils about dos oh ages, dire mt ctions, side eff ivq ects, pre xbk cautions, freq axb uently ask ah ed ques ja tions, links to manu tq facturer web ki sites and patie ha nt/presc jy ribing infor bj mation. You can also acc cag ess aVia vbf gra, Ci lpd alis, Lev gq itra compa xig rison chart that sum vta marizes medi tdc cation info tn rmation for the thr wi ee ED d qj rugs in one cent aw ral loc djf ation. Via gig gra Silde zx nafil 50/100mg $1.42 Per P smj illMore info C nyq ia tm lis Tada et lafil 10/20mg $1.66 Per P ws illMore info Levi pts tra Vard ptz enafil 20mg $1.72 Per P llw illMore info -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
On 11/29/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: So you believe that sites MUST have in-your-face obnoxious offensive cpu-chewing advertising, or they'll fail? How does that work, against successful models such as google's simple line-item ads? Or the myriad of ad companies that offer only simple static banners? Unfortunately yes. As nice as unobtrusive text ads and static graphic banners are they do not bring in nearly as much money as the obtrusive ads you're referring to. The unobtrusive ad formats can be used in conjunction with the obtrusive but unobtrusive ads can no longer make a website profitable on it's own, the end of free ISPs and unlimited hosts like xoom marked rye end of that period. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
On 11/26/09, Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net wrote: And I'm getting a **ed pop-ups from NetFlicks or a pop-in from CNet TechTracker. What would you folks suggest to combat them? Disconnect from the Internet. Seriously, disk space, bandwidth, and computing power, even today, is very expensive--if you can't financially support the websites you use then you shouldn't be expecting the service they provide you in exchange. I hate people who steal financially from those who rely on ad revenue to stay afloat with ad blockers. How selfish, what--do you all think these people grow money on trees? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: The internet corrupts my XP! I sincerely doubt that. :) -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hardwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
What was the point of this empty posting? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 4:00 PM, MacDiva wrote: I deduct from what Martin said, that you are right and not right at the same time. You can find the SMB option in leopard a leopard snow but not in the OS 10.3.9 that runs in my G4. But then it is related to platform since you need that to be set in order to have the XP access the 10.5.x OS machine. You don't find that setting in 10.3.9. That does not need to be set explicitly- don't know why - for the 10.3.9 . Am I right? On Nov 20, 12:48 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: As it happens, I found out how to make this happen in the iMac. the G4 has ”windows sharing among the options, the iMac does not. You have to dig to find out how to do that. I thought the sharing options had more to do with the OS version of the software more so than the platform you are running. my G3 BW 10.4.11 has windows sharing and personal file sharing as options... if the imac was running 10.4.11 would the same apply?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried File Salvage? Do you know where to get it for less than the $70-$80 prices I've seen? If your files really aren't worth all that much to you then why go through all this effort? ;-) Really, if the files are worth this much effort I'd think $80 would be a small price to pay to get them back. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: FW: Half time event
Nannies please take care of this spam. On 10/26/09, Joe Dokes whaler...@hotmail.com wrote: Amazing performance! Subject: Fwd: Half time event Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:30:13 -0400 From: don1...@aol.com THIS IS AWESOME Video: A Physical Education teacher, Lynn Kelley who founded the Kings Firecrackers 13 years ago, said the video of their performance at an Army vs. Navy game in February was posted to the team's Web site in early April, and has ignited national interest. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1418565565?bctid=23207933001 _ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009 -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: facebook
On 9/4/09, Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net wrote: I keep getting invites to fagbook. What is it, is it secure, why do i want it. does it run on macs? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
error 195 chowning network
Hi I'm trying to chown Network on my family laptop so that I can delete the network but when I do I get error 195 (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/err.tif/). How do I resolve? -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OT?: Database/spreadsheet question
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:34 PM, i...@sajego.neti...@sajego.net wrote: Kris: I thought the NeoOffice database was scary. This was downright terrifying! (It did look cool, though, especially the forms feature.) It feels a lot to me like Microsoft Access, without VBA support. It definitely has a learning curve but it can also be extremely powerful. I don't believe you need all this offers though in order to do what you're after. John, Garage Sale has matured a LOT since I last looked at it. I have an old license I can upgrade, so this is probably going to end up being my most economical solution, though Fabian's AppleWorks suggestion would have been if I could find it! ( if I decide to replace my copy of AW is my best bet LEMswap? And does AW play nice with Leopard?) Good, Garage Sale looked pretty nice to me too. AppleWorks should work still as long as you get the carbon Mac OS X version and not a Mac OS 9 or below only version. Just beware, I think Apple is eager to show carbon the door in the near future. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OT?: Database/spreadsheet question
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, i...@sajego.neti...@sajego.net wrote: Waay back in the day, I used filemaker for donor records and such at the small nonprofit where I worked. You created the fields, arranged them in a data entry form and then created forms for address lists, thank you notes, tax deductible receipts, so on and so forth. Very simple. Now I'm starting to do some selling on ebay, and I want to keep track of transaction information, marketing data calculate profit per sale. I looked at NeoOffice's database and it's way too scary for me. Can anybody point me to a simple and relatively cheap database solution or some sort of spreadsheet template? I actually made my first sale today and I need to start keeping records. I'd rather let the computer do the math than try to do it myself the paper and pencil way! Ah yes eBay. :) You don't really need to go through all the trouble of learning to use a new fangled database suite, you just need a ebay management utility. Several that seem recommended for the mac are http://www.equinux.com/us/products/isale/index.html and http://www.iwascoding.com/GarageSale/. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help (Way OT)
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Amanda Wardamanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All... There are a lot of serious tech folk out there. Can someone with Sun system experience contact me off-list? I'm not sure how this is at all tech related, but I think wikipedia can probably answer most of your questions about the sun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Charles Leningtonmacso...@brightok.net wrote: What I don't understand, is why this thread is being discussed on this list? There is a proper list for list issues. http://groups.google.com/group/lemlists?hl=en Oh please, that list is just where banned members go to cry into a blackhole. I can't recall the last time I've ever seen a nanny post there, it's just for appearances it would seem. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about list rules and policies is not off topic. Except that it is, it belongs on the lemlists list but since that's simply a blackhole where all complaints fall to deaf ears no one posts there... Even the nannies would rather encourage long off topic rants on a high traffic list like this rather than have their political agenda fall on deaf ears. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever the agenda is we all agreed to the terms of use when we joined. They are Dan's lists to run run as he pleases. There are other options on the web. Is he running it? I haven't heard a peep from him throughout the duration of this insistent beating of a dead horse... -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Al Poulinalfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: I did, and he answered me. ... What'd he say? -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Top Posting (read up)
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Kyle Hansenpi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Hello, I am a Nanny here at LEM. We have some rules about posting in our forums. One rule that gets looked over quite frequently is what is called ³top posting.² We ask that you post your responses AFTER the text you are answering. This is called ³bottom posting² and considered the polite Internet standard. Naturally you should also trim out some of the non-essential information from the previous post as well. Here is a snippet of the rules that you read when you signed up for these lists: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml Thanks for your understanding. You will be warned first, then temp banned and then banned from the list if you don¹t follow the few rules we ask you to follow. Usually we will ban you or moderate you (so your post has to be approved by a nanny before it will hit the list) then temporarily ban you (usually 72 hours), and then if you still don¹t ³get it² you will just be banned from the listŠ.which we really do not want to do. So please take the few extra seconds and trim your posts then post your response at the bottom. Not only is it polite, it is a requirement of our lists. Some threads get really hard to follow if you ³top post.² We have posted several warnings. The warnings are going to stop and then bans are going to begin. It is not that difficult to trim a post and then reply in the natural fashion which is below the quoted text. Thank you again for your understanding. Kyle Hansen Why are you trying to enforce a non-existent rule: Friends: After discussion with the other list managers, we've decided to end our policy of asking that list members not top post their replies. That's the default behavior of most email clients, and just reminding people of our recommendation to bottom post or interleave your replies has become more trouble than its worth. From this point forward, top posting is no longer an issue. Dan Knight, list owner publisher, LowEndMac.com .Dan Knight a while ago made this rule no longer a issue, I don't quite get why you're trying to reinforce it now. I don't think it's too wise to try and cross the list owner. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: It is official, we are orphans.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote: Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware. But you also gotta realize that unlike Microsoft, Apple's source code is not bloated with backwards compatibility hacks like Windows is. If you look at the leaked NT source code you can see such outrageous stuff like bits of windows 95 code being hacked on top for backwards compatibility. This is actually Microsoft's ultimate fall because these backwards compatibility hacks are catching up with them and preventing decent security and stability. Additionally, because Microsoft business consumers now expect this constant backwards compatibility they are extremely constrained as to how they can revamp the kernel. It is not a good situation and I applaud Apple for not sticking hack on top of hack on their software to ensure constant backwards compatibility. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: It is official, we are orphans.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote: If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would have been done any way) it should run pretty good. Also I'm pretty sure Windows 7 will run great on a 2004 office basic computer. I'm running Windows 7 RC right now and I've noticed a huge speed increment over Vista SP1. Vista is crap... Is it just me or does your vista machine take forever to shutdown while appearing to do nothing? -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Creating temporary File?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've never used the empty free space option when zeroing my hard drive in disk utility yet. So, when the Creating temporary file comes up in the progression of the emptying process, what exactly does that mean, creating temporary file? I thought I was zeroing out the free space? Jeff It zeros out the free space by creating a large temporary file that spans the entire free space (or close to it) which in effect overwrites whatever was contained in the free space. However be aware that one pass is only sufficient for home usage, there is still a possibility that old files contained in the free space are recoverable--only many multiple passes, or simply degausing the hard drive (which would erase EVERYTHING on the hard drive, not just the free space) can ensure that old deleted files are not at all recoverable. And even then you can never be too sure, ultimately the safest way to prevent access to confidential files is to destroy the hard drive itself. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPS's
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Just a general note: Hello, I am a Nanny here at LEM. We have some rules about posting. Especially what is called top posting. We ask that you post your responses AFTER the text you are answering. This is called bottom posting and considered the polite internet standard. Naturally you should also trim out some of the non necessary information from the previous post as well. Here is a snippet of the rules that you read when you signed up for these lists: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml Thanks for your understanding. Did you forget already? Delivered-To: johnmusba...@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.53.10 with SMTP id f10cs73305rvk; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.17 with SMTP id c17mr2592797wff.76.1203108930915; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: grbounce-vpfhlwuaaad9cubx0m1nt-lvpldohmj6=johnmusbach1=gmail@googlegroups.com Received: from wa-out-0708.google.com (wa-out-0708.google.com [209.85.146.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30si11437464wff.11.2008.02.15.12.55.30; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of grbounce-vpfhlwuaaad9cubx0m1nt-lvpldohmj6=johnmusbach1=gmail@googlegroups.com designates 209.85.146.249 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.146.249; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of grbounce-vpfhlwuaaad9cubx0m1nt-lvpldohmj6=johnmusbach1=gmail@googlegroups.com designates 209.85.146.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=grbounce-vpfhlwuaaad9cubx0m1nt-lvpldohmj6=johnmusbach1=gmail@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header...@googlegroups.com Received: by wa-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id v31so770318wah.23 for johnmusba...@gmail.com; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id:date:received:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent:subject:from:to:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe; bh=J5OW5SYrb17w1qOXRV1oMAqwN9tyF99g1GSt/hYKKgM=; b=mZvg/BGckY0h1hianihytPKeQlrkr4whd09irbiPo6kUPSgWXjbUEnK2j2Rj2a53mfTZsA1sJ+nmzXAg5QgSOx4YIlSt6bw5iyYKLx0/z+5109hNog7huPmNYew/EDCGtx1RrFo09+u8MI6exD1vmER9fE0dDRKqXYHh9MZxCGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent:subject:from:to:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe; b=JfPqmc4+Y/AfO/snbDw05Sj0xIR5v38/eq+GNv/vxmomL2Z1wT2I9MkkwPk6fO1F70tBbTeC1CsTqmMYkt3+kNKbrlk2F9i98G/dkQxPIeiGU8JRVBfcldw7EHvTPHbl+nCHn8T8kxehdUydDhoEI8YOm7BceQg8OuGKHwtLc5s= Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr24533waf.13.1203108924420; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.106.227.37 with SMTP id z37gr37prg.0; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: lowend...@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: ipod-l...@googlegroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: 99cb3163-3f92-4310-82ed-7339505be...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.154.9 with SMTP id b9mr22840ane.7.1203108923897; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:55:23 -0800 (PST) X-IP: 71.205.227.55 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Subject: Top posting From: Low End Dan lowend...@gmail.com To: iPod List ipod-l...@googlegroups.com Reply-To: ipod-l...@googlegroups.com Sender: ipod-l...@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list ipod-l...@googlegroups.com; contact ipod-list-ow...@googlegroups.com List-Id: ipod-list.googlegroups.com List-Post: mailto:ipod-l...@googlegroups.com List-Help: mailto:ipod-list-h...@googlegroups.com List-Unsubscribe: http://googlegroups.com/group/ipod-list/subscribe, mailto:ipod-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Friends: After discussion with the other list managers, we've decided to end our policy of asking that list members not top post their replies. That's the default behavior of most email clients, and just reminding people of our recommendation to bottom post or interleave your replies has become more trouble than its worth. From this point forward, top posting is no longer an issue. Dan Knight, list owner publisher, LowEndMac.com (headers included for proof of legitimacy) -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5
Re: Mail Delay
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:04 AM, George R. Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to set the time for a message from eMail to be sent? i.e. Write the message at 8AM but don't send until 2PM Check out http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Invisible drive
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM, George R. Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this is off topic, but if someone does, my apologies. I ran Boot Camp to make a windows partition and used rEFit to provide a boot screen at start up. The drive the window os is on is not visible in the finder. When I open Disk Utility it is visible, but dimmed and named disk0s3. When I do a find for the windows os, it doesn't show up. Could someone please tell me what's going on? Try this: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20070220150856279 -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Expat ian.prick...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I really like the OS X server management tools as they make monitoring and administrating the server incredibly easy but 10.4 doesn't have Time machine , lack of budget is what's preventing me from choosing OS X Server 10.5. What do you think? Don't waste your money on any version of OS X server. Instead use a client version that you already have (or even better, something like Debian for your server--OS X is much more suited for general desktop use then server use). Using a repository like macports you can install nongimped versions of Samba, Apache, Postfix, etc. Then you can use the following instructions (ignore the comment about it being for OS X server, it works fine on OS X client) to install Webmin which'll give you a web based administration interface for all the services you want to run on your server for free: http://www.webmin.com/osx.html. IMO the only benefit of OS X server is the ability to define security policies for macs in one central location as well as have a central source for login authentication, everything else it provides can be done for free without the purchase of a OS X server license. Since you don't seem to want to do either of those things OS X server really won't provide you any benefit. -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Janine Cheung hbbst...@gmail.com wrote: Then I rebooted using the main drive, and that's when it gets stuck (as detailed above) My files are still on the boot drive, but how can I get the harddrive to mount? snip! Any other suggestions? http://www.drivesavers.com/ -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
