Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Charles Davis wrote: The reason being that it is faster to 'change the W/R head, than it is to physically move the W/R head to a different cylinder. Well- and for the obvious reason that you aren't always partitioning into pieces that divide perfectly among platters! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
Regarding the format of your archived photos: The photo industry believes that the highest quality version of an image is its RAW version, when available. The address this, and a global standard, the DNG format has been evolving and DNG format with the original RAW image embedded along the DNG conversion is supposedly going to be the most standard way of archiving images for the long term. I don't recommend CDs or DVDs because none seem high enough quality for me. If you were to go that route and wanted future compatibility, wouldn't you go with Blu-Ray? No physical media type (like CD-R) is going to remain in existence forever, but if you're concerned you should maybe store your images on SOLID STATE drives since they are probably the wave of the future... Maybe if you wait until the end of this year there will be a good sized solid-state drive out there. Toshiba is launching a 512gb solid state drive: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10125861-64.html Also, a drive used for archiving should be used and then set aside in a nice safe clean cool dry place and not used much- it will live more years that way. Acknowledge that even if a drive type does not become obsolete, its connector might- Apple is one of those impatient instigators of hardware upgrades and so they are killing FW400 and eventually there will be no FW800 nor USB 2.0. Hopefully the ISO/OSI Int'l standards people are thinking about a permanently backwards compatible connector type- if one develops to will probably be closer to USB or Sata I think, or FDDI, and not Firewire, since business/pc users aren't the biggest users of firewire (though Hollywood and Pixar may be big users, I don't know)... HOWEVER- My guess is that CABLES are going to finally become more obsolete because I'm seeing camera card flash-type drives with built in static wi-fi! See Eye-fi: http://www.eye.fi/ Get a storage medium that will have multiple ways to connect to over devices (or share with other devices) or will remain compatible with future enclosures or standards. I see wifi/wireless large-storage solid state drives as coming along very soon... I always store important files in two different ways, at least, to ensure useability of one over another. Another good idea is to always keep a computer around that will open the files you have now- if your current computer becomes obsolete instead of dying, store in in a clean cool dry place with keyboard and monitor and maybe it'll be there for you when you need to read a disk in 2025 that you made today. Peace, MIKO Miko's Support and Design in Seattle, WA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Dan wrote: Magnetic media is actually less fragile than burned media. heh. I've got tapes and floppies that were written in the 80s, that still read just fine. Tapes/etc store data as magnetic patterns that don't degrade / fade much. I think tapes are awesome and almost recommended that but I'm worried about losing them to future standards, and to cats. Cats and little kids love pulling tape out of things... I dunno- just worried about the tape itself- la cinta- so that's why I went with a recommendation for solid state drives or wireless flash drives. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no standard any time soon. TIFF is better. Whoever wrote this is a bit rude. Yes of course I know that every form on RAW is different, which is EXACTLY why you convert it to DNG and embed the original RAW. The DNG is the standard. Do I have to state every obvious thing to not get a weird comment about it when I'm trying to help? I state what's necessary to convey the information. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: At this point with newer systems they're generally all supported by Photoshop CameraRAW and can be converted to DNG. i feel that's reasonably safe since I'm seeling the useful life right around 10 years for an image, I don't see many calls for images older than that, even than with images more than 2-3 years old i only get a request maybe once a year ... I can see that for stock images, but for art images that develop some clout, a good print could be requested at any time. I'd love it if there was a 50 megapixel dng out there of Ansel Adams' Moonrise! or Half Dome --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:16 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: Sorry Miko, The purpose of my project disqualifies your suggestion for reasons seperate to what makes dng raw so wonderful. I dearly hope that 5-10 years from now DNG has the status of TIFF. LONG LIVE ADOBE - LONG LIVE PHOTOSHOP! No need to be sorry- I was being a purist, as a photographer. But when you provide further information, I'm fine with the TIFF for your purposes. Note that saving TIFFs has several options and one of them is compression. If you can afford to not compress, I'd recommend avoiding that. There are also two types of compression- LZW and ZIP- and I'm not certain if one is going to remain more standard than the other, so you might want to look into that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain, even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage container just before sealing it)? That way, there should be little or no oxyge, and little or no oxidation of the burned pits, and therefore no degradation of the data. Just an idea . . . LOL. Perhaps, also, a hyperbaric chamber will help. And the storage room should be lined with lead in case we get attacked with a superstrong electromagnetic pulse (EMP)... :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:34 PM, insightinmind wrote: I haven't read this entire enormous thread, but has anyone mentioned storing the data files in cyberspace? I definitely wanted to mention this but GUESS WHAT! I HAVE EXPERIENCE! I was storing music files onlinr and then the company suddenly went out of business without announcement and I lost a lot! Also, AOL Pictures DID warn its people this past week but still, millions of people lost images when AOL Pictures shut down on 12/31. SO Online means out of our hands and that makes me scared- I only recommend what I view as safest. If we could LEGALLY bind online storage companies to NEVER losing or deleting our data, I'd recommend cyberspace. But it definitely happens. So YEs, I thought about it, but according to my motto- I only say what people need to know, otherwise it clutters the usefulness of the reply. MIKO in Seattle Miko's Support and Design Services --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...- addendum PRAM ZAP post RAM upgrade?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: I'll check out the PRAM. I thought the PPCs didn't need to do that anymore, that was just the older machines. Guess I stand corrected. The PRAM point appears debatable (and my personal experience shows no need in a Macbook but that's not this list): http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=54735 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1051823tstart=855 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89736page=4 There's a lot less stored in PRAM in OS X: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1242 The old Apple support document lists virtual RAM and RAM disk and disk cache and 32-bit addressing as being stored in PRAM which hints at the connection to newly installed RAM but the connection to the hardware itself is not clearly stated: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. Sounds like a raw hardware issue and other web sites agree. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6091706 http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-59143.html However, be sure to check the modules separately - was this a lone module during the test? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reasonable Pricing for Selling a PowerMac G4
On Jan 1, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Bucky wrote (see reply below as required): This is a Dual 500MHz Gigabit Ethernet motherboard(plus processor) and PSU plugged into the case of a rev 1 Sawtooth case. What I have installed: 2GB of memory nVidia Geforce4 MX with ADC and VGA and 64MB of vram. Memorex 8x DVD R / RW burner. Belkin 3 port (two external, one internal) USB 2.0 card. 200GB Western Digital using the Open Firmware patch. And would include: 17 inch Apple Studio CRT (ADC). Works great, the acrylic stand is in very good condition. I love the screen, but obviously It can never be used with a DVI to ADC adapter. Retail Tiger DVD, no box(would have unadorned jewel case instead)- This was bought when Tiger was first released. Power button doesn't light up. The light worked for the Sawtooth motherboard but not the GigaE. Buttons still work. Trouble with the system occasionally not seeing the drive when restarting. The drive is always seen from a cold boot. This may in fact be the hard drive which I have had for several years. Reformatting or a newer drive may fix this issue. I have a price in my head, but I have had the PowerMac for quite a while and am likely very biased. The monitor is a bit small, and also bulky for the modern world. The hard drive issue is a SERIOUS drawback. 500 MHz and not even close to Intel. See very similar for $180 on eBay and it has not sold yet: http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-Dual-500-MHz-G4-DVD-256-MB-40-GB-HD_W0QQitemZ290281868960QQcmdZViewItem AND the rive is solid in that one so you have to subtract $40-$50 for new drive. You can only add about $30 for the RAM at this time since the rates fell dramatically on Crucial.com So $180 - $50 + $30 = $160. At $15 for the monitor since I've seen these on the street. So $175. People will love the Tiger DVD but probably won't expect to pay extra for it, even if it's worth $130! Maybe return to the original system then offer to sell the Tiger DVD with it for $40-$50? As long as you're not using the license on any other machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:52 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. *** Memory Test Failed *** Please check logfile for details. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. Done. -0- Exiting the script. Restarting localhost *** GOODBYE FROM APPLEJACK *** What does this mean? Nearly all the lines above the end synopsis said FAILURE. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. That confused me, too. The TEST was successful! The RAM failed! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reasonable Pricing for Selling a PowerMac G4
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Bucky wrote: I really do appreciate your help, I'm just slightly disappointed in what I can expect to get. Yeah, I'm sorry, but as you know- I researched on the 'Net. Other sites confirm that price level and I've helped to buy these or similar for other clients so I have a general idea. Good luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Vic wrote: I hate Epson printers. They use a technology that keeps the same print heads for the life of the printer and use a nipple injection system that frequently gums up and requires maintenance using more of your ink. HP on the other hand, when you replace the cartridge you replace the ink (it is self contained so no messy spills of clogged nozzles) and the print head all at the same time. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. Ditto on Epson - I've thrown away two of them that each worked for a little while, but my 10-year-old HP still works as well as it ever did... I'm so happy to see we all hate the low-end Epson printers! Oh and to be more specific- I've ALWAYS had problems with one of the colors eventually not printing at all- the print head issue is ridiculous! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz HD cable
It might also be worth looking up the fix online like at ifixit.com or similar since repair costs so much. On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:23 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: Well if you can't access the hard drive through firewire from another mac, then I think it is the hard drive cable. I have the exact same laptop and I think it is worth fixing. How much does it cost? -Jonas On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: jonas ulrich wrote: There are some simple tests that you can perform. Get a firewire cable and connect to another mac. Then from the other mac boot into the powerbooks hard drive. If you still just get the grey screen than it's probably just the hard drive cable. -Jonas I've done this, using T at startup, but I can't access the HD on this powerbook. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here. But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen. http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would get this working? Thanks for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Tom wrote: My Epson Stylus Photo R1800 makes beautiful prints from digital photos or scans. Occasionally a print head will clog and need cleaning, and that wastes ink, but the prints are so good that I put up with it. Tom, the more expensive Epsons are fine... they do make lovely printers, and artists swear by them. But if you've never used an Epson that was under $200- trust me- the quality falls healdlong into the abysmal Abyss. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 23, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: The orginal price for the 740 was over $200. The reference was to an 1800- I have no idea how bad the 740 is- I give up I will NEVER be specific on these lists because people here are constantly throwing out prices from 1985 and other weird details about things to find a way to mess with the respectability of someone's opinion. I'm simply going to say that cheaper Epson printers SUCK. And I'm not going to run through EVERY SINGLE Epson model when I'm simply trying to provide a good general rule! I'm sure the 740 sucks- all the 3 digit numbered ones that I know suck, and every single Epson printer in the Stylus series sucks, and my opinion is solid on that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be
OK, really, who cares about arguiing over claims? Can I buy a cheap Mac-compatible machine with the power of a Mc Pro or not? I'll NEVER be able justify affording the $3000+ for a barebones Mac Pro! Suze Orman already DENIED me. LOL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be
On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Ted Treen wrote: If Apple's business model works for them - and it certainly appears to - then it's better for all of us if they continue to thrive, and not go belly-up like so many other companies who have tried too hard to be all things to all men. Here endeth the lesson ;-) The problem is that it was not always- and is only recently- their business model! There used to be affordable G4 towers with extra drive bays and slots and such and now all we've got, before investing gazillions, are notebooks and iMacs! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be
On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Also, never, ever forget that you have to compare historical prices in a constant dollar fashion. Actually, gulp- I just never realized that they used to cost so much new! Despite that though I have never understood why they are simply missing an affordable but customizable or expandable desktop. I remember that I had a Quadra 605 and I was definitely not rich when I bought that- it was fairly easy to open up and upgrade- though in very limited ways- still not enough maybe- so, okay, saying G4 tower was not the best comment, and I know iMacs are supposed to be desktops but you get stuck with their choice of video card and there aren't a lot of slots for extra video cards or internal hi-speed SATA drives, and Mac doesn't support eSATA very well at all... why does one pay $1500- $2000 more JUST for a couple of video and drive slots? That's my point- there's NOTHING in between. I really wish I had extra SATA space, not merely extra firewire or USB external drive space, and it's ridiculous to think of paying $3000 just for that, vs. $1100. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be
On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: ?? If you're doing the kinds of stuff you do with computers than need multiple video cards and lots of high=speed internal storage, you more than likely need the added power of a Mac Pro anyway. No kidding ! need a Mac Pro! And yet I don't even have a house/ mortgage yet so I can't justify $3000+ at the moment when I basicaly get by with an MB Pro with 4GB ram and 4 external drives... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MAIL program- Drafts and Outbox?
I'm using Leopard. I'm probably spacing out but- why don't I always see an Outbox or Drafts folder? I've seen the drafts folder come and go, but never (or rarely) the outbox- and I know I'm sending a large zip file right now- so whewre can I easily go to see the file on its way out? I'm assuming it's an error or problem if my Outbox and Draftas folders never stick around? I'll go check layout preferences... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Hunter Fuller wrote: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. / is the root of the drive. . represents the current directory. And no, you should not be able to rename/name something .. But it might not be ., it might be . or .. A rose by any other name is a lost mount point --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:37 PM, D Stubbs wrote: OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions', took 10 minutes, Then I went back to Disk Inventory X, but see no differences, still have a lost 40 acres of hard drive hiding under a period. Next, for fun I tried Disk Inventory X on the backup (made by CCC) of said partition and - Lo Behold!, the mystery '.' folder is gone and it is now down to 9 gig from 14. So good 'ol CCC seemed to have come to the rescue. I still would like to get my hands on whatever is inside that 5 gigs ( the jpgs in particular - to be sure that I have backups of them) before I dump this monster. You folks are de besta Del Well you repaired permissions but did you verify your disk? I'm thinking about Catalog B Trees, cross-linking, volume bitmaps- these kids of issues. I would not try a repair without a full backup but merely looking at permissions won't do much. Everyone always also recommends DiskWarrior but that costs $99. I'm also beginning to think that you may have fond evidence that dark matter exists- maybe your drive has somehow tapped into gravitational space outside the future cone of light! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPDATE! What made the alert sound?
On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I found that stinker I installed coconutWIFI a few days ago and it plays a submarine alert sound when detecting a new unencrypted network that gets in range funny thing is I would only hear the alert when my laptop was sitting on my coffee table after getting off the couch!, so, when I'd hear the alert sound, I'd run to the laptop, put it on my lap.. and naturally I'd never hear the alert again do to the fact that the network that was being detected was too far out of range...(while on my lap) too funny. It almost drove my wife nuts!!... That is HILARIOUS! And goes into the annals/canon of You had to be there --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Alert sounds from where?
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Considering that Mail is the only app up at the moment... and I know what sound(s) it makes... this is interesting. (and yes, I've checked the widgets) J Did you check you New Mail Sound preference under the General section of mail preferences? There IS a Submarine there as an option! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ok stupid question time - How do I do this.
On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:14 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: Get appleworks 6, install it onto an OS 9 machine, and then drag the appleworks 6 folder over to the os 10 machine. works great! -Jonas On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:05 PM, jqusnr jqu...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi have a Blue and White running OS 10.4.11 My wife has a certificate that was created in OS 9 and apple works is there anyway to convert that and inport it to MS Works? Or export it from Appleworks by saving as an RTF or other form of document, or convert it using MacLinkPlus- if you have access to any of those options. Appleworks is its OWN thing, unfortunately, but you should be able to get a version you can run, somewhere. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ok stupid question time - How do I do this.
On Dec 15, 2008, at 4:14 PM, jqusnr wrote: Ok I got it on the OS X machine and it seems to work great. Thanks. If i was to scan it could I get it to work within Microsoft works? Well if you were to scan it- if it's THAT kind of certificate- you could do a lot with it if you scanned it! I'm assuming you mean you can print it, and then you could scan it. If you have questions about scanning, let me know. Know that you could scan just as a JPEG at 150-200 dpi resolution, or if the certificate is mostly text, you could extract the text using an OCR program if one came with your scanner. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
