Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 15, 2:12 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:27 AM, McGrude wrote: You know, I actually think that we're all bozos on this bus ... Think? Think? I know I'm a bozo. I'm just waiting for the electrician. -- Don't step on that dwarf! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Vicvma...@gmail.com wrote: Don't step on that dwarf! Crush. Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers. Which stays in my mind primarily because of that timeless political soundbite from George Leroy Tirebyter: ... and you can believe me! Because I never lie. And I'm *always* right. But I digress ... -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
freinds, romans, countrymen, i come to praise the G5, not bury them. i wonder how many of the posters above who can't wait for Apple to abandon the G5 actually understand chip architecture. i had a G5 for high-end computational work. tasks that take days, weeks, and sometimes even months to execute. unfortunately, it died of a flaky logic board. so as a stop gap, i began using a QS 933, and i grabbed the first used intelmac that i came across at a reasonable cost, because the newest version of the app i use is intel only. to my not so great surprise, given the exact same task, the single processor QS 933 w/ a 133MHz bus speed is still about 25% faster than the core-duo intelmac. maybe, and i mean maybe with a capital MAYBE, the newest intel nehalem processors will finally catch up to where the G4 was ten years ago, but i'm not holding my breath. so call me stoopid if you like, but i'm buying a used G5 to for $500 to replace the one that died instead of a nehalem for $5000. i'll let all of the smart folks above shell out their money so they can claim to have the newest and best. ah...clem On Aug 14, 6:01 pm, Will S willsc...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, Shoot me now ;-) This I hope will teach to read closer think before posting. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:49 AM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: so call me stoopid if you like ... You know, I actually think that we're all bozos on this bus ... -irrational john ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
You know, I actually think that we're all bozos on this bus ... Think? Think? I know I'm a bozo. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On 15/08/09 11:49 AM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: freinds, romans, countrymen, i come to praise the G5, not bury them. i wonder how many of the posters above who can't wait for Apple to abandon the G5 actually understand chip architecture. i had a G5 for high-end computational work. tasks that take days, weeks, and sometimes even months to execute. unfortunately, it died of a flaky logic board. so as a stop gap, i began using a QS 933, and i grabbed the first used intelmac that i came across at a reasonable cost, because the newest version of the app i use is intel only. to my not so great surprise, given the exact same task, the single processor QS 933 w/ a 133MHz bus speed is still about 25% faster than the core-duo intelmac. maybe, and i mean maybe with a capital MAYBE, the newest intel nehalem processors will finally catch up to where the G4 was ten years ago, but i'm not holding my breath. so call me stoopid if you like, but i'm buying a used G5 to for $500 to replace the one that died instead of a nehalem for $5000. i'll let all of the smart folks above shell out their money so they can claim to have the newest and best. ah...clem As many of us have said in the past, if you have a use for it, then it ain't dead! When most of you were already playing around with the PPC architecture, I was still humbly using my IIsi with it's 20MHz 68030 processor, 17MB of RAM (currently at 64MB) and OS 7.1. It got me through university, wedding invitations, tonnes of office work, reports and the internet (Eudora and Mosaic) all the way through 1999... about 8 solid years without fail. I declared it in a coma once I got my brand new BW. It's currently packed away. My BW gave me about 7 solid years of work and tinkering (it's now a 500MHz G4 BW overclocked to 600MHz with 1GB RAM, 120GB of hard drive space, and a 128MB graphic card) until I was able to buy a brand new G5 Powermac. The BW runs Tiger and serves as a file backup system and iTunes jukebox. To me, it ain't dead. I find Tiger and Leopard to be solid OSes. How many more bells and whistles do we really need? Look at the Office suites, they've become so bloated. The early MS Word versions used only a few MB of RAM to run. To me there's no need to buy a new Mac just so I can install Snow Leopard since the G5 is doing just fine. There are still lots of apps out there for the PM. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:27 AM, McGrude wrote: You know, I actually think that we're all bozos on this bus ... Think? Think? I know I'm a bozo. I'm just waiting for the electrician. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 15, 2009, at 8:49 AM, ah...clem wrote: i grabbed the first used intelmac that i came across at a reasonable cost, because the newest version of the app i use is intel only. to my not so great surprise, given the exact same task, the single processor QS 933 w/ a 133MHz bus speed is still about 25% faster than the core-duo intelmac. You're using the newest version of the software? If so those they must have outsourced their development to Elbonia. What software is this, so that I can freakin' avoid it like the plague... -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
I agree. Who needs the intel? I just finished upgrading a Quicksilver G4 that has Leopard on it. I don't know how the original owner got that on but he did. I even have 10.5.8 on it. - Original Message - From: MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !! On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. Yes, power PC is dead BUT, the powermac G5 that I JUST bought is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead.. at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
Hello mlitwin3797! I'd say a Quicksilver has more than reached the end of its lifespan. Show me one other computer company that made a desktop computer for the mainstream market that has lived for 8 years and is still (kind of) supported by the latest operating system! It's time to move on. Innovation doesn't arise from hanging on to old stuff. Mac OS X 10.5 will be the last Mac OS that is running on PowerPC based Macs. End of story. For the Quicksilvers, the MDDs, and even the older Digital Audio and Gigabit Ethernets, it was a great time! From System 7.1.2 to Mac OS X 10.5.8, that is quite a lot of Apple history that runs on these machines. The Power Mac G5's are the only Macs that have a *really* short lifespan, considering that the latest G5 series (Late 2005) was sold until August 2006, its only three years and the platform will be dropped with the upcoming Snow Leopard. So, if you're a Quicksilver user: be happy! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !! Date:Freitag, 14. August 2009N From:mlitwin3797 mlitwin3...@att.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I agree. Who needs the intel? I just finished upgrading a Quicksilver G4 that has Leopard on it. I don't know how the original owner got that on but he did. I even have 10.5.8 on it. - Original Message - From: MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !! On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. Yes, power PC is dead BUT, the powermac G5 that I JUST bought is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead.. at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
Sorry, Shoot me now ;-) This I hope will teach to read closer think before posting. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
There has been word with in some circles that Apple would support PPC chips with Snow Leopard since day one. They have always been shouted down by the unbelieving masses. The rumor is back and perhaps it's even true. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) No longer really matters to me as my main machine is an Intel HacMac and my PPC Macs are too old. Word is also that SL went Golden Master yesterday(ready to send to the DVD printers) So we will soon know for sure. Contrary to rumors that Apple would drop PowerPC architecture support with its newest OS, a tipster and possible Apple insider was able to get his hands on the most recent build of the yet-to-be released 10.6, and found some evidence that Cupertino might be keeping the chip alive. http://gizmodo.com/5014251/source-os-x-106...t-powerpc-chips --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Will Swillsc...@gmail.com wrote: There has been word with in some circles that Apple would support PPC chips with Snow Leopard since day one. They have always been shouted down by the unbelieving masses. The rumor is back and perhaps it's even true. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) No longer really matters to me as my main machine is an Intel HacMac and my PPC Macs are too old. Word is also that SL went Golden Master yesterday(ready to send to the DVD printers) So we will soon know for sure. Contrary to rumors that Apple would drop PowerPC architecture support with its newest OS, a tipster and possible Apple insider was able to get his hands on the most recent build of the yet-to-be released 10.6, and found some evidence that Cupertino might be keeping the chip alive. http://gizmodo.com/5014251/source-os-x-106...t-powerpc-chips Hogwash. IMO it's high time for Apple to drop PPC support, and I still have a PowerMac G5. I'm really looking forward to having an OS that can properly use the Nehalem processors in my new Mac Pro. Leopard is just a stopgap solution on these machines, and all new ones going forward. Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Will S wrote: There has been word with in some circles that Apple would support PPC chips with Snow Leopard since day one. They have always been shouted down by the unbelieving masses. The rumor is back and perhaps it's even true. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) No longer really matters to me as my main machine is an Intel HacMac and my PPC Macs are too old. Word is also that SL went Golden Master yesterday(ready to send to the DVD printers) So we will soon know for sure. Contrary to rumors that Apple would drop PowerPC architecture support with its newest OS, a tipster and possible Apple insider was able to get his hands on the most recent build of the yet-to-be released 10.6, and found some evidence that Cupertino might be keeping the chip alive. http://gizmodo.com/5014251/source-os-x-106...t-powerpc-chips The above rumor message had been posted on June 7, 2008. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. On Aug 13, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Will S willsc...@gmail.com wrote: There has been word with in some circles that Apple would support PPC chips with Snow Leopard since day one. They have always been shouted down by the unbelieving masses. The rumor is back and perhaps it's even true. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) No longer really matters to me as my main machine is an Intel HacMac and my PPC Macs are too old. Word is also that SL went Golden Master yesterday(ready to send to the DVD printers) So we will soon know for sure. Contrary to rumors that Apple would drop PowerPC architecture support with its newest OS, a tipster and possible Apple insider was able to get his hands on the most recent build of the yet-to-be released 10.6, and found some evidence that Cupertino might be keeping the chip alive. http://gizmodo.com/5014251/source-os-x-106...t-powerpc-chips --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. Yes, power PC is dead BUT, the powermac G5 that I JUST bought is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead.. at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
