Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-19 Thread Dan
At 8:25 AM -0700 10/18/2009, tonycd wrote: >Eventually I correctly guessed why. For some reason, a few years ago >another Tier Two rep fixed a connection problem by changing the >username in my email client from (myname)@sbcglobal.net, to (myname) >%sbcglobal.net. Counterintuitive to me, but it wo

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-18 Thread tonycd
Weird Epilogue: Talked to the AT&T Tier Two support people (the competent ones they diligently try to keep you from reaching). Ultimately, he concluded that for some reason, Thunderbird wasn't recognizing the presence of my username and therefore was internally rejecting my username/password com

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-15 Thread Dan
At 11:06 AM -0700 10/14/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: >On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:20 AM, iJohn wrote: > > FWIW, aside from the occasional accessibility glitch that all cloud >> based services are subject to, I've been very happy with gmail ever > > since I switched to it. > >Well, let's hope they have

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-14 Thread iJohn
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Well, let's hope they have backups. T-Mobile customers just learned > THAT lesson the hard way. > > http://tinyurl.com/yzfnwtz I worry a lot less about backing up with google than I would if the data were on one of my machines. Since movin

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:20 AM, iJohn wrote: > FWIW, aside from the occasional accessibility glitch that all cloud > based services are subject to, I've been very happy with gmail ever > since I switched to it. Well, let's hope they have backups. T-Mobile customers just learned THAT lesson the

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-14 Thread iJohn
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Dan wrote: > IN the mean time You might want to switch to a more reliable > provider.  My fav these days is Gmail... I actually have my gmail account read (via POP) my mail from my Yahoo account. That way I didn't have to immediately track down each source o

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-14 Thread Dan
At 6:17 PM -0700 10/13/2009, tonycd wrote: > 2 adsl-99-144-239-254.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (99.144.239.254) >17.870 ms 16.665 ms 25.795 ms >[etc] Ok It's not Thunderbird - if the prefs etc were foo, it would be failing all the time. It's not your DNS - that translation (the dig) was g

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-13 Thread Maretta Holden
At 8:56 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >I have AT&T DSL, connected by wire to a Quicksilver running Tiger and >wirelessly via AirPort Graphite to a MacBook running Leopard. Both use >Thunderbird for email. > >In recent days, both machines are having increasing trouble sending >emails. At first

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-13 Thread tonycd
Dan, here's what I got this time (front matter removed): 1 * * * 2 adsl-99-144-239-254.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (99.144.239.254) 17.870 ms 16.665 ms 25.795 ms 3 68.250.251.66 (68.250.251.66) 16.751 ms 17.509 ms 18.209 ms 4 bb2-g9-0.emhril.sbcglobal.net (151.164.94.164) 18.060 ms 17.

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-13 Thread Dan
At 7:51 PM -0700 10/12/2009, tonycd wrote: >;; ANSWER SECTION: >smtp.att.yahoo.com. 806 IN CNAME smtp- >sbc.mail.yahoo.com. >smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com. 186IN CNAME >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 199 IN A 66.196.96.87 >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-12 Thread tonycd
Dan, here's what Terminal showed me. The only change: my last name is replaced here with the parenthetical expression (Lastname). Thanks, Tony Last login: Mon Oct 12 20:23:48 on console Welcome to Darwin! Tony-(Lastname)s-Computer-2:~ t(lastname)$ dig smtp.att.yahoo.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-APPLE

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread Dan
At 11:15 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >The SMTP address is exactly as you specified it: smtp.att.yahoo.com . >What would be the next most likely suspect here? Double check with your ISP that the address "smtp.att.yahoo.com" is still the correct server. If it is, then next we test the conn

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
Thank you for straightening me out on that, Dan. Thank goodness somebody here knows what they're talking about, since I certainly don't. The SMTP address is exactly as you specified it: smtp.att.yahoo.com . What would be the next most likely suspect here? Thanks again, Tony On Oct 11, 12:55 pm

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread Dan
At 10:18 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >It's "pop.att.yahoo.com", same as it's been for years. The POP server is for *receiving* mail. SMTP is for *sending*. It's the SMTP server you need to check -- smtp.att.yahoo.com - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
It's "pop.att.yahoo.com", same as it's been for years. On Oct 11, 12:07 pm, Dan wrote: > At 9:50 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: > > >On Oct 11, 11:05 am, Dan wrote: > > > At 8:58 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: > > > >Sending of message failed. > >> >The message could not be sent bec

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread Dan
At 9:50 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >On Oct 11, 11:05 am, Dan wrote: > > At 8:58 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: > > >Sending of message failed. >> >The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server >> >smtp.att.yahoo failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusin

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
Dan, pardon my ignorance, but where do I look for that? In Thunderbird? In System Prefs? On Oct 11, 11:05 am, Dan wrote: > At 8:58 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: > > >In case this helps, the failure message says: > > >Send Message Error > > >Sending of message failed. > >The message could n

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
I apologize for the repeat posts. They're purely accidental, and I think they happen because I hit return or refresh at the wrong time. Listmom, feel free to delete the repeaters. On Oct 11, 11:05 am, Dan wrote: > At 8:58 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: > > >In case this helps, the failure me

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread Dan
At 8:58 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >In case this helps, the failure message says: > >Send Message Error > >Sending of message failed. >The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server >smtp.att.yahoo failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing >SMTP connections. Ple

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
In case this helps, the failure message says: Send Message Error Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server smtp.att.yahoo failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify that your SMTP server setting is correct

Re: Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
In case this helps, the failure message says: Send Message Error Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server smtp.att.yahoo failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify that your SMTP server setting is correct

Creeping failure to send emails

2009-10-11 Thread tonycd
I have AT&T DSL, connected by wire to a Quicksilver running Tiger and wirelessly via AirPort Graphite to a MacBook running Leopard. Both use Thunderbird for email. In recent days, both machines are having increasing trouble sending emails. At first, you'd fail on the first one or two attempts and