Kris Tilford wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
The one time Hollyweird got it right was in the Mel Gibson movie where
he had thermite charges wired to the top of his drives.
NASA was able to salvage and recover the data off the HDs that burned
up in the
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu mailto:john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Hi everyone! Wow, I never expected to spark such an interesting discussion.
Yes, some of you were right in that I don't believe I have a machine
I can erase them in. Unless I have a card my old Yikes! will let me
use.
These came out of old servers and frankly I think some of them came
from a
you'd be surprised what gets left on drives
I once got an 850 at a yard sale, with one drive in it. turned out to
be 1/2 a RAID 1. I looked on it and found the computer was from a
medical lab and was full of medical records!It was too small to be
of any use to me, so I took it apart
On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:45 AM, Clark Martin wrote:
Thermite; when you care enough to melt the very best.
Personally I'd prefer a sabot round (APFSDS)
We've always found the 9mm and .45 also do an adequate job. 30.06 with
a proper backstop...
--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
erase with 0, govermantal format... any program with that option handle
situation and write everysector 0. This takes time, very long time if HD is
big.
I use only HD not any optical media for backup. Cause optical media need
care... If you backup all data and trust them in 5 years you may lost
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com wrote:
My father paid around $400 to get his data recovered off of a dead HD, this
was around 4 years ago. I back up my photo's to Google Picasa web albums
which also does videos under 100mb and I've signed up for 10gb for
On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Steve R wrote:
I thought one of the ways security minded people ensured thieves and
law enforcement type people didn't gain access to their data was by
creating a magnetic loop around the doorframe of their designated
computer room so that the information on the
On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
I am assuming all HD cases are made of Ferrous material.
They're not, they're typically made of machined aluminum; in fact the
technology used to make hard drive cases lead to the technology used
to make MacBook Air and now the
On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
The magnetic signal written to a sector can be read (remnants of it)
even
after writing zero’s to it more than 10 times. It is just more
difficult
and takes more time. What they do now is layer the zero writes and
follow
the
Really whole thing is a gigantic PITA. should see the stack of old
drives I've collected from old machines we've sold or given away here
at work.
-sam
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At 11:53 AM -0400 4/6/09, Sam Macomber posted:
Really whole thing is a gigantic PITA. should see the stack of old
drives I've collected from old machines we've sold or given away here
at work.
Are you familiar with the Instructables website? Lots of interesting
ideas of what to do with
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
The one time Hollyweird got it right was in the Mel Gibson movie where
he had thermite charges wired to the top of his drives.
NASA was able to salvage and recover the data off the HDs that burned
up in the Columbia shuttle accident.
The
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
The one time Hollyweird got it right was in the Mel Gibson movie
where
he had thermite charges wired to the top of his drives.
NASA was able to salvage and recover the data off the HDs
On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
I am assuming all HD cases are made of Ferrous material.
They're not, they're typically made of machined aluminum; in fact the
technology used to make hard drive cases lead to the technology used
to make MacBook Air and now the MacBook
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.eduwrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
The one time Hollyweird got it right was in the Mel Gibson movie
where
he had thermite charges wired
On 4/4/09 3:57 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Broadcast into the ether:
Kyle, it was my opinion that a strong enough mag field would erase all
formatting and make it unusable. Another lister was of the opinion that since
these are SCSI they could still be reformatted. What
On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
It was my job for about 3 months at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories
(science and weapons development). We literally had to securely
destroy hundreds of Mac’s and PC’s during their upgrade ...
In a former job at a large mainframe
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 4/4/09 3:57 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Broadcast into the ether:
Kyle, it was my opinion that a strong enough mag field would erase all
formatting and make it unusable. Another lister was of
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 4/4/09 3:57 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Broadcast into the ether:
Kyle, it was my opinion that a strong enough mag field would erase all
formatting and make it unusable. Another lister was of
On 4/5/09 12:23 AM, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Broadcast into the
ether:
Even on mandatory engineering changes, sometimes the agencies elected
to shred the PCBs even though the subject boards did not contain any
memory elements.
Sounds exactly like my experience.
Kyle Hansen
--
This
On 4/5/09 12:52 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Broadcast into the ether:
Kyle, it was my opinion that a strong enough mag field would erase all
formatting and make it unusable. Another lister was of the opinion that
since these are SCSI they could still be reformatted.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 4/5/09 12:52 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Broadcast into the ether:
Kyle, it was my opinion that a strong enough mag field would erase all
formatting and make it unusable. Another lister was of
At 11:41 PM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane
mailto:di...@mathermotorsports.comdi...@mathermotorsports.com
wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and
At 7:45 AM -0400 4/4/2009, diane wrote:
At 11:41 PM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane
mailto:di...@mathermotorsports.comdi...@mathermotorsports.com
wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb.
At 10:07 AM -0400 4/4/09, Dan wrote:
At 7:45 AM -0400 4/4/2009, diane wrote:
At 11:41 PM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane
mailto:di...@mathermotorsports.comdi...@mathermotorsports.com
wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote:
Unless I have a SCSI card in my old Yikes! I don't have a way to do
that. They came from Novell servers anyway so I suspect that few
would even be able to read any data that may be left.
diane wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be?
Thanks,
On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:54 PM, diane wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet
My personal knowledge is a bit stale but last I knew a step in
fabrication of a hard drive was a run through a precision spinning
table that wrote basic magnetic information on a disk that was
intended for use by software that could format the platters into
sectors and cylinders. It's likely
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com
wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet
On Apr 4, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
A big magnet simply doesn't work. Years ago I had a friend that put an
old hard drive on a bulk tape eraser at the radio station. This thing
would erase a whole tape reel with one zap. Didn't do a thing to the
hard drive. Everything was
On 4/4/09 7:40 AM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com Broadcast into the
ether:
Unless I have a SCSI card in my old Yikes! I don't have a way to do
that. They came from Novell servers anyway so I suspect that few
would even be able to read any data that may be left.
It takes 7 (minimum)
On 4/4/09 8:21 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net Broadcast into the
ether:
A big magnet simply doesn't work. Years ago I had a friend that put an
old hard drive on a bulk tape eraser at the radio station. This thing
would erase a whole tape reel with one zap. Didn't do a thing to the
On 4/4/09 9:21 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast
into the ether:
A large magnet will not affect them, at least not a large magnet
you're likely to have access to, unless you also have a large steel
recycling yard or cyclotron in your backyard...
I think I am gonna have
On Apr 4, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be?
On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
You would make them unusable
Is this true? What is the mechanism that makes them unusable?
The data is comprised of
Kyle Hansen wrote:
And the only reason I know this is it is one of the tools we use at the
government lab to destroy drives...the other is the metal shredder which is
WAY more fun.
Kyle Hansen
Ya, but they don't let civillains have these, unless you roll your own
from surplus!
Stephen
At 12:18 PM -0700 4/4/2009, Kyle Hansen wrote:
On 4/4/09 9:21 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast
into the ether:
A large magnet will not affect them, at least not a large magnet
you're likely to have access to, unless you also have a large steel
recycling yard or
I thought one of the ways security minded people ensured thieves and
law enforcement type people didn't gain access to their data was by
creating a magnetic loop around the doorframe of their designated
computer room so that the information on the drives was rendered
useless by the magnets??
That was in the Floppy Disc age :-)
Peter M.
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From: Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:53:54
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Erase a drive to sell
I thought one of the ways security minded people
On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote:
Ok... Just for kicks... I've got a drive here and a honking big
magnet.
That's the Feynman spirit; less words, more action.
Quick dirty wins.
After an hour of that exposure... I
hooked the drive up and . it works fine.
Case closed.
On 4/4/09 1:42 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether:
Re-read what Bruce wrote. A magnet that you're likely to have access...
I could buy one of these at a local store. The one we had was the size and
shape of one of those Paddles you see on ER when they zap someone to reboot
On Apr 4, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
But most people do not have the skills
to recover the data after a simple single pass, so go ahead and
write 0's to
it once and sell it.
My understanding of the issue is that she doesn't have a SCSI machine
(or a SCSI card in a modern Mac)
On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote:
Ok... Just for kicks... I've got a drive here and a honking big
magnet. The magnet is so strong that once it grabs the drive, it
won't let go unless I pin the drive down with my feet and wiggle the
magnet off with both hands. After an hour of that
On Apr 4, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
I once ruined a Credit Card by putting it in a shirt pocket where I
had forgotten I was carrying a small magnet.
I used to wear a name tag held on by a small magnet, and I ruined
several credit cards that way!
Joe
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 4/4/09 8:21 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net Broadcast into
the
ether:
A big magnet simply doesn't work. Years ago I had a friend that put an
old hard drive on a bulk tape eraser at the radio station. This
diane wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be?
Thanks,
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be?
Thanks,
Diane
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote:
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size
from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would
like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them.
Will a magnet
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