Re: The other side of Plain text format or i want to forward a html

On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: The other side of the issue is when I want to forward an html msg that I rcvd (off list) to a friend, there is no option in t-bird to include the pictures as in the original. I've tried changing prefs, but no change. I guess I'll have t

The other side of Plain text format or i want to forward a html

The other side of the issue is when I want to forward an html msg that I rcvd (off list) to a friend, there is no option in t-bird to include the pictures as in the original. I've tried changing prefs, but no change. I guess I'll have to install safari (updates and try it. Or is there a better

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:32 PM, James Therrault wrote: The faster machines become along with huge amounts of RAM, the sloppier code gets. A common claim, but not really backed up by evidence... modern computers do a LOT more. Yes it le

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:32 PM, James Therrault wrote: > > The faster machines become along with huge amounts of RAM, the sloppier code > gets. > A common claim, but not really backed up by evidence... modern computers do a LOT more. Yes it lets people get away without hand-writing highly-opti

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:14 PM, onelucent wrote: Yes, from an era, when economy in programming was a virtue. It still is a virtue with the ascendency of the iPhone, iPad, and other mobile p

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:14 PM, onelucent wrote: > >> Yes, from an era, when economy in programming was a virtue. > > It still is a virtue with the ascendency of the iPhone, iPad, and other > mobile platforms. Speaking of which, Apple donated th

Re: Plain text format now nostalgia and a dozy QS

On 21/7/10 10:51, "James Therrault" wrote: > Still had a waxer for ultimate paste up plus photographs were still a > task of the printer, (pre-press). That's me! Pre-press final film planner, platemaker, camera, scanner, Cromalin proofer et al extraordinaire. Boy were those early monotype an

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:55 PM, glen wrote: - Original Message From: James Therrault Heh... You're only a kid by my standards. Sometimes off topic, (officially), still can share knowledge or at the least some general information. I learn a lot of this list. I spent abo

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:14 PM, onelucent wrote: Yes, from an era, when economy in programming was a virtue. It still is a virtue with the ascendency of the iPhone, iPad, and other mobile platforms. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3,

Re: Plain text format

- Original Message > From: James Therrault > > Heh... You're only a kid by my standards. Sometimes off topic, > (officially), >still can share knowledge or at the least some general information. I learn >a >lot of this list. I spent about thirty years in and out of the pu

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, James Therrault wrote: Certainly, RTF does provide even the novice user with pretty good type control but it never did really fit my needs and of course it wasn't available to Mac users until later. RTF was

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 3:14 PM, onelucent wrote: > On 7/20/10 12:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> (Also, if you aver need a simple, easy-to-parse and modify RTF document, to >> use as a template, for instance, WordPad from Windows 95 or 98 is >> unparalleled. Word, TextEdit, and most other word proc

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, James Therrault wrote: > Certainly, RTF does provide even the novice user with pretty good type > control but it never did really fit my needs and of course it wasn't > available to Mac users until later. > RTF was supported on the Mac as of Word 3 iirc, and I know

Re: Plain text format

On 7/20/10 12:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: (Also, if you aver need a simple, easy-to-parse and modify RTF document, to use as a template, for instance, WordPad from Windows 95 or 98 is unparalleled. Word, TextEdit, and most other word processors make enormously complex RTF files. "Hello World

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:59 AM, James Therrault wrote: I believe that RTF is a relatively late development as sort of a bridge between full blown type control and plain text. But like you, it can pass on as some here just don't know a lot

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:58 AM -0400 7/20/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: The receiving device can be set to output the ASCII code as Lucida, Courier, Zapf Chancery, Braille, punched paper tape, 80 column Hollerith cards, a ticker tape machine (yes, someone has kludged one

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:59 AM, James Therrault wrote: OTOH, I understand exactly what Dan stated when he uses Lucida as a display font but the actual output when mailed defaults to Courier which is the plain text. There is no internet w

Re: Plain text format

Looks like another interminable session of comments about something the Nannies have explained over and over why it's a no no. When will it end? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Dan wrote: > > Email on paper tape could be interesting! Now I've got this whole Gomez > Addams at his stock ticker image in my mind. > Oh, man, that would be so cool...something akin to this: Also, die, Dan

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:59 AM, James Therrault wrote: > > I believe that RTF is a relatively late development as sort of a bridge > between full blown type control and plain text. But like you, it can pass on > as some here just don't know a lot about typography. RTF is about the only thing Mi

Re: Plain text format

At 11:58 AM -0400 7/20/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: The receiving device can be set to output the ASCII code as Lucida, Courier, Zapf Chancery, Braille, punched paper tape, 80 column Hollerith cards, a ticker tape machine (yes, someone has kludged one to print out emails sent to it) or to speak eac

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:59 AM, James Therrault wrote: OTOH, I understand exactly what Dan stated when he uses Lucida as a display font but the actual output when mailed defaults to Courier which is the plain text. There is no internet wide official "default" plain text font. Many devic

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 20, 2010, at 3:07 AM, pdimage wrote: On 20/7/10 07:16, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: It is not about Mac G hardware or one step removed. It is a good candidate for the Mac2Mac list or a list where people like to debate what plain text is while sending in rich text somewhere

Re: Plain text format

On 20/7/10 07:16, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > It is not about Mac G hardware or one step removed. It is a good > candidate for the Mac2Mac list or a list where people like to debate > what plain text is while sending in rich text somewhere It is about display anomalies in relatively

Re: Plain text format

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Dan wrote: > > At 4:20 PM -0600 7/19/2010, Tina K. wrote: >> >> Amanda Ward wrote: >>> >>> Wasn't this supposed to go away? >> >> Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if >> you must. > > This is not that other thread.  Do you h

Re: Plain text format

Dan wrote: At 4:20 PM -0600 7/19/2010, Tina K. wrote: Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. This is not that other thread. Do you have an objection to a reasonable discussion about how font

Re: Plain text format

At 4:20 PM -0600 7/19/2010, Tina K. wrote: Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. This is not that other thread. Do you have an objection to a reasonable discussion about how fonting and su

Re: Plain text format

Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15" DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB P

Re: Plain text format

At 3:36 PM -0500 7/19/2010, James Therrault wrote: However, Dan's emails appear to be in courier, (non proportional), whereas other emails that I get are delivered as written/formatted. I send in plain text. It is YOUR client that is applying the font. I have my mail client set to use Lucida

Re: Plain text format

At 4:18 PM +0100 7/19/2010, pdimage wrote: > ... My default is Lucinda 14, btw. I hope you mean Lucida 14 - Lucinda 14 sounds like straying into Jerry Lee Lewis territory. I may try Lucida - Monaco is not the prettiest by any means... ROFL. Font menus always seem to display in tiny sizes tha

Re: Plain text format

Wasn't this supposed to go away? Amanda Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: James Therrault Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:39:09 To: Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plain text format On J

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: Please Content-Type text/plain describes a mail message that, as delivered, contains zero, nada, no, precisely no, information about the font and size in which the email was sent. You're missing the entire point. I never implied that

Re: Plain text format

Please Content-Type text/plain describes a mail message that, as delivered, contains zero, nada, no, precisely no, information about the font and size in which the email was sent. The font used for display by the client software is totally, absolutely, firmly, decided at the time the displ

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:11 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 11:19, "James Therrault" wrote: But when you wrote this what did you see in your reader - presumably not fixed width Courier. Was it full width and a html type font as I saw and if so was it plain text or html? I can't imag

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:18 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 13:54, "Dan" wrote: What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a "cascade failure". Kevin Barth's reply in the thread was in rich text. Kyle replied to that, quoting Kevin, so his email client used the same format. Then J

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:34 AM +0100 7/19/2010, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 03:39, "James Therrault" wrote: > You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. What you observed, in this particular ca

Re: Plain text format

On 19/7/10 13:54, "Dan" wrote: > What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a "cascade > failure". Kevin Barth's reply in the thread was in rich text. Kyle > replied to that, quoting Kevin, so his email client used the same > format. Then James replied to that, and stripped some of

Re: Plain text format

At 9:34 AM +0100 7/19/2010, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 03:39, "James Therrault" wrote: > You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a "cascade failure". Kevin

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:11 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 11:19, "James Therrault" wrote: I use Apple's Mail and have it set to only send out in "plain text." To see if you are actually using plain text, just type out a few letters in a new mail. Then select all the text that you have type, c

Re: Plain text format

On 19/7/10 11:19, "James Therrault" wrote: > I use Apple's Mail and have it set to only send out in "plain text." > > To see if you are actually using plain text, just type out a few > letters in a new mail. Then select all the text that you have type, > click on "Fonts," and it should default

Re: Plain text format

On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:34 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 03:39, "James Therrault" wrote: (In a previous thread responding to Kyle Hansen) You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). JT Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. I've been on the l

Plain text format

On 19/7/10 03:39, "James Therrault" wrote: > You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). > > > > JT Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. I've been on the lists for more years than I care to remember and originally used Claris Emailer under legacy -