Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-06 Thread Austin Leeds
I have an iPad, btw. I've reviewed it a couple times on LEM (Austin Leeds, Apple Everywhere). Well, we'll see about my school's G5. Our Mac tech is going to have a look at it. My HTPC that I'm building now is the shell of a 1999 Compaq Presario Internet PC, coupled with a new mobo and a triple-co

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 4, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: If you are paying 13 cents per kilowatt hour, two hundred dollars a year. Every year. This is an excellent point. I think this is one reason why laptops have finally overtaken desktops in sales. When you add in the cost of electricity over

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread admin
Great point. But the price jump from mini to iMac is only $500 and you get 2GB more RAM, a keyboard, a mouse and a 21" high quality display. Eventually, I will need an Intel machine, but I believe that entry level Mini should be more like $450-500, not $700. On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:06 PM, R

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread Robert MacLeay
On Jul 25, 11:25 am, "ah...clem" wrote: > On Jul 25, 1:48 am, Kris Tilford wrote: > > > Anecdotal evidence says that the liquid-cooled G5 need to run   > > 24/7/365, and the more often they're shutdown the quicker they have   > > issues with the coolant causing corrosion and leaks. The coolant ne

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:44 PM, John Carmonne wrote: My PM G5 Dual 2.7 early 2005 is liquid cooled and has PCIx slots Yes, I forgot about that one, so that means there are three of the four possible combinations, the absent one being the single "dual- core" air-cooled. -- You received this m

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread John Carmonne
The only liquid-cooled are the "late 2005" G5's with PCI-e slots. All the earlier G5's that have either PCIx or normal PCI slots are air-cooled. > > > All the earlier G5's that have either PCIx or normal PCI slots are > air-cooled. The "quad" is actually a "dual dual", and is the only 2.5GHz

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Austin Leeds wrote: In the meantime, my school's G5 DUAL (found out its not a liquid- cooled quad) is having some heat issues. Hmm… We've touched on this before, the term "dual" for G5 is ambiguous. The problem is that there a two types of "dual" G5's. One has a

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-08-04 Thread Austin Leeds
After evaluating the options, I'm still going with my rebuilt Compaq Presario as an HTPC. However, my iMac G4 will be getting a sweet upgrade (1 GB maxed out RAM + 500 GB hard drive + Mac OS X Tiger Server) to turn it into a server. In the meantime, my school's G5 DUAL (found out its not a liquid-

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-26 Thread t...@io.com
On Jul 25, 12:31 pm, Eric Herbert wrote: > On Jul 25, 2010, at 12:16 PM, ah...clem wrote: > That said, getting back to the OT and in regards to the OP, > for the things he wants to do, it seems like a better use of > time, space, and financial resources to get a computer the > size of a CD wall

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 25, 2010, at 12:16 PM, ah...clem wrote: >> > > eric, - did you not read the original post? > > > are you saying a used intel mini is going to radically outperform the > late 2008 iMacs that Austin mentioned? don't think so. if you've got > an app that utilizes altivec effectively, the

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread ah...clem
On Jul 25, 1:48 am, Kris Tilford wrote: > Anecdotal evidence says that the liquid-cooled G5 need to run   > 24/7/365, and the more often they're shutdown the quicker they have   > issues with the coolant causing corrosion and leaks. The coolant needs   > to circulate in order to prevent the cor

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:16 AM, ah...clem wrote: > On Jul 25, 12:50 pm, Eric Herbert wrote: > >> With what you say you're doing with it, you're probably better off with an >> Intel Mac Mini in all honesty. They've got a LOT more processing power, the >> newer ones have better graphics power (d

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread ah...clem
On Jul 25, 12:50 pm, Eric Herbert wrote: > With what you say you're doing with it, you're probably better off with an > Intel Mac Mini in all honesty.  They've got a LOT more processing power, the > newer ones have better graphics power (due to not only a better graphics > design than the 5 ye

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: > OK, so avoid the quad? I'll agree with the peppiness factor—it really > does seem faster. How about a dual 2.5 or 2.3? > > I'm hooking this thing up to a 480i (?) CRT via SVID, so HDTV is no > factor. The big demand here is compatibilty with ol

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Illirik Smirnov
The quad is the best machine reliability wise as it has the good liquid cooling system. Try and get one with a 6800 Ultra video card. I have a quad 2.5 and a dual 2.5, and the quad is much, much faster. The quad will beat out a mac mini speed wise. Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Ita

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Austin Leeds
OK, so avoid the quad? I'll agree with the peppiness factor—it really does seem faster. How about a dual 2.5 or 2.3? I'm hooking this thing up to a 480i (?) CRT via SVID, so HDTV is no factor. The big demand here is compatibilty with older hardware, which I believe the G5 would have more than a re

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 25, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: > Yeah, I know PPC is dead-in-the-water—all of my Macs (except for a 68k > PowerBook 180) are PPC. Nonetheless, I'm not too worried about it—if > it can word process, print, connect to our wireless hotspot, watch TV, > and possibly turn our VHS and

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Austin Leeds
On Jul 25, 12:48 am, Kris Tilford wrote: > Also, PPC Macs are dead-in-the-water, so rebuilding your old PC into a   > Hack wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. It may be pretty cost   > effective to leapfrog the liquid-cooled G5 in performance and also   > have Intel compatibility going forward, no

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 25, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Eric Volker wrote: > I'll generally echo what Kris has said regarding the liquid cooled G5's. An > additional factor to consider is that the G5 you're using may be a quad-core, > as opposed to the more common dual-core/dual-processor G5's. That would > explain why

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Volker
I'll generally echo what Kris has said regarding the liquid cooled G5's. An additional factor to consider is that the G5 you're using may be a quad-core, as opposed to the more common dual-core/dual-processor G5's. That would explain why it's able to smoke the more recent iMacs, which only have

Re: Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-24 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 25, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: Is there anything to look for when buying a G5 that would indicate a problem (or a good unit)? Anecdotal evidence says that the liquid-cooled G5 need to run 24/7/365, and the more often they're shutdown the quicker they have issues with the

Power Mac G5 – to buy or not to buy?

2010-07-24 Thread Austin Leeds
Hi all, After what I've heard about the G5s, I was a little wary of the Power Mac G5 my college bought for the music department (which I often help with tech-wise). It's a liquid-cooled 2.5 Ghz – sounded cool in theory but still, I was a little nervous. Well, after a few months of no problems (an