Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-03-05 Thread Neil Hughes
Well, it turns out that the replacement internal FW module does work 
after all...unfortunately I only discovered this *after* I had ordered a 
TI-chipset FW 400 card and thought that wasn't working either. It turns 
out that my testing was at fault.


(Note to self: test FW devices with something simple like an external 
drive enclosure, *not* a FW webcam or DV-bridge. Doh!)


Oh well...I have a 6 FW port PowerMac now and the Dazzle DV-bridge still 
doesn't work. More investigation required.


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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-24 Thread peterhaas

> ...I wasn't aware that the NEC chipset was the preferred one.
>
> The ones I briefly looked at yesterday on Amazon UK seemed to be all
> Texas Instruments, which I think is also on my G3's motherboard. I'll
> steer clear of those and try your suggestion.

The preferred USB 3.0 chip set IS NEC (now Renesas).

The preferred Firewire 400 chipset IS Texas Instruments.

USB 2.0/1.1 and Firewire 800 could, and probably is, others.



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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-24 Thread Neil Hughes

Thanks Kelly/Peter/Luis...

...I wasn't aware that the NEC chipset was the preferred one.

The ones I briefly looked at yesterday on Amazon UK seemed to be all 
Texas Instruments, which I think is also on my G3's motherboard. I'll 
steer clear of those and try your suggestion.


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On 23/02/2018 21:09, Kelly Harding wrote:

I found the best results were with NEC chipped FireWire cards.



On 23/02/2018 22:31, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
>> Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.
>
> The NEC chipset, now renamed Renesas, is the most compatible of 
several competitive chipsets.


On 23/02/2018 21:36, 'Luis Salazar' via G-Group wrote:
>
> I use a USB and Firewire card combo from IOGEAR, that I absolutely 
love, in all my PowerMacs. I did find that deep sleep issues would arise 
from time to time if the driver was not installed. These  cards are 
inexpensive on eBay. The card in question is:

>
> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320
>
> Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.

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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-24 Thread Neil Hughes

I didn't say "unusual"...I said "more unusual" :p

Which Firewire clearly is when it comes to PCI cards, compared with USB 
or network adaptors.


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On 23/02/2018 22:14, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

Let's see, G list and someone thinks Firewire is unusual ?



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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread peterhaas

> Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.

The NEC chipset, now renamed Renesas, is the most compatible of several
competitive chipsets.



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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Let's see, G list and someone thinks Firewire is unusual ?

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:36 PM, 'Luis Salazar' via G-Group <
g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I use a USB and Firewire card combo from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love,
> in all my PowerMacs. I did find that deep sleep issues would arise from
> time to time if the driver was not installed. These  cards are inexpensive
> on eBay. The card in question is:
>
> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320
>
> Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.
>
> Luis
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 1:42 PM, Luis Salazar <
> bigapplesc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I use a USB and Firewire combo card from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love,
> in all my PowerMacs. I found that deep sleep issues would arise if the
> driver was not installed. These  cards are still available and inexpensive
> on eBay. The card in question is:
>
>
> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
> Luis
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 12:45 PM, Neil Hughes 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Great...thanks.
>
>
> I've used PCI USB2 cards in the PowerMac without issues; I wasn't sure
>
> about something more unusual like Firewire.
>
>
> --
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> On 23/02/2018 16:48, Bruce  Johnson wrote:
>
>
> >
>
> > Yes, any PCI FW 400 card will work on a PCI Mac; it’s a very
>
> > standardized standard (and partly written by Apple to boot).
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Bruce Johnson
>
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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread 'Luis Salazar' via G-Group
Hello everyone,


I use a USB and Firewire card combo from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love, in all 
my PowerMacs. I did find that deep sleep issues would arise from time to time 
if the driver was not installed. These  cards are inexpensive on eBay. The card 
in question is:

https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320

Best results with various other cards were found with NEC chips as well.

Luis




On Friday, February 23, 2018 1:42 PM, Luis Salazar  
wrote:




Hello everyone,


I use a USB and Firewire combo card from IOGEAR, that I absolutely love, in all 
my PowerMacs. I found that deep sleep issues would arise if the driver was not 
installed. These  cards are still available and inexpensive on eBay. The card 
in question is:


https://www.iogear.com/product/GUF320

Best of luck!


Luis



On Friday, February 23, 2018 12:45 PM, Neil Hughes  
wrote:




Great...thanks.


I've used PCI USB2 cards in the PowerMac without issues; I wasn't sure 

about something more unusual like Firewire.


-- 

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On 23/02/2018 16:48, Bruce  Johnson wrote:


> 

> Yes, any PCI FW 400 card will work on a PCI Mac; it’s a very 

> standardized standard (and partly written by Apple to boot).

> 

> -- 

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> University of Arizona

> College of Pharmacy

> Information Technology Group

> 

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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread Kelly Harding
I found the best results were with NEC chipped FireWire cards.

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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread peterhaas

> I've used PCI USB2 cards in the PowerMac without issues; I wasn't sure
> about something more unusual like Firewire.

Standardization is complete, or very nearly so.

PowerMacs can accept and use USB 2.0/1.1, USB 3.0, FW 400 and FW 800 PCI
cards.


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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread Neil Hughes

Great...thanks.

I've used PCI USB2 cards in the PowerMac without issues; I wasn't sure 
about something more unusual like Firewire.


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On 23/02/2018 16:48, Bruce  Johnson wrote:


Yes, any PCI FW 400 card will work on a PCI Mac; it’s a very 
standardized standard (and partly written by Apple to boot).


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Re: Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Neil Hughes 
mailto:neil.hugh...@tesco.net>> wrote:

To cut a long story short, I'd like to try to get my Dazzle* Hollywood DV 
bridge working and the only Mac likely to work with it is my old B&W G3 
Powermac.

Unfortunately the built-in Firewire ports no longer work (a common issue on 
this model I believe). Even after replacing the FW module no external devices 
are recognized in OSX Tiger or MacOS 9.2.2/8.6 so I suspect the TI chip on the 
motherboard has gone.

Does anybody know if the generic PCI FW cards work with PowerPC Macs? There 
seem to be quite a lot of different models available on Amazon but I can only 
see one that says it works with Macs and it doesn't mention OS compatibility. 
The reviews are all from Windows users.

Yes, any PCI FW 400 card will work on a PCI Mac; it’s a very standardized 
standard (and partly written by Apple to boot).

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Firewire 400 PCI cards - OK with a PowerMac?

2018-02-23 Thread Neil Hughes
To cut a long story short, I'd like to try to get my Dazzle* Hollywood 
DV bridge working and the only Mac likely to work with it is my old B&W 
G3 Powermac.


Unfortunately the built-in Firewire ports no longer work (a common issue 
on this model I believe). Even after replacing the FW module no external 
devices are recognized in OSX Tiger or MacOS 9.2.2/8.6 so I suspect the 
TI chip on the motherboard has gone.


Does anybody know if the generic PCI FW cards work with PowerPC Macs? 
There seem to be quite a lot of different models available on Amazon but 
I can only see one that says it works with Macs and it doesn't mention 
OS compatibility. The reviews are all from Windows users.


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