Re: Cloning

2008-11-24 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
Hiya ~ But I need to have a bootable external drive to create a bootable system, correct? This I do not yet have. I would prolly actually have to seek out such, since there weren't any at the local Staples or Best Buy. I don't configure much, so am thinking do an archive and install on

Re: Cloning

2008-11-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 24, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: I would prolly actually have to seek out such, since there weren't any at the local Staples or Best Buy. Any Firewire drive and I'm pretty sure with your Mac, any USB drive is bootable. (albeit slowly) They will not specify this on

Re: Cloning

2008-11-24 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
Wow - Dan, I'm sold. Very nice. On Thursday, November 6, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Dan wrote: Use CCC. The new version is very nice. You tell it what folders to copy and it does it. As an incremental backup, If you check the archive modified and deleted items box, then instead of deleting the

Re: Cloning

2008-11-24 Thread Dan
At 11:30 AM -0700 11/24/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: Any Firewire drive and I'm pretty sure with your Mac, any USB drive is bootable. (albeit slowly) It's one of those weeks. On m'fav Smurf, the built-in firewire is dead. And now my fw/usb card has fried. (I think a shorted usb memory stick

Re: Cloning

2008-11-20 Thread Dan
At 10:29 PM -0500 11/19/2008, insightinmind wrote: Nice idea if I could get the Westell 327W to stop dropping the connection, part way through the CCC 3.1.2 update ... I wanted to report success at using CCC 3.1.2 across my Westell 327W network ... backing up 4 partitions from my Yikes!

Re: Cloning

2008-11-20 Thread Al Poulin
On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:16 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 7:29 pm From: insightinmind Perhaps talking to myself ... but ... I wanted to report success at using CCC 3.1.2 across my Westell 327W network ... backing up 4 partitions from my Yikes! (Tiger,

Re: Cloning

2008-11-19 Thread insightinmind
On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:16 PM, insightinmind wrote: I assume that each Mac would need its own, dedicated backup partition on that external storage, and that it would be bootable. Would it be feasible, or better even, to use Network-attached Storage (NAS) with CCC? I understand that NAS

Re: Cloning

2008-11-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Dan wrote: Im waiting for 'em to support segmenting for burning. The idea being to to divide the backup into DVD-sided chunks, to facilitate easy burning. Kindof the way DiskFit did, back in the early 1990s, with floppies. There's an old unix command-line

Re: Cloning

2008-11-12 Thread Dan
At 9:27 AM -0700 11/12/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Dan wrote: Im waiting for 'em to support segmenting for burning. The idea being to to divide the backup into DVD-sided chunks, to facilitate easy burning. Kindof the way DiskFit did, back in the early 1990s,

Re: Cloning

2008-11-11 Thread Dan
At 2:55 PM -0500 11/9/2008, Charles Davis wrote: On Nov 9, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Al wrote: *grumble* Google groups *grumble* yet-another message not received *grumble* So, these two, separate replies mean that I may be able to do everything I want with CCC going to one FireWire or bootable

Re: Cloning

2008-11-11 Thread Dan
At 11:23 AM -0800 11/11/2008, Al wrote: Maintaining a single separate partition for *each* Mac is the easiest / cleanest solution. It means you'll use more storage in total but it keeps things clean on a per system basis. No need for an additional set of partitions. Okay, total of

Re: Cloning

2008-11-09 Thread Al
To recap the storage requirement, our needs are modest, no massive photo or video files. Our most valuable data is in genealogy and narrative files which do not take much space. The iMac is holding about 40 GB on the hard drive; the other machines, less. On Nov 8, 11:13 am, Dan [EMAIL

Re: Cloning

2008-11-09 Thread Charles Davis
On Nov 9, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Al wrote: To recap the storage requirement, our needs are modest, no massive photo or video files. Our most valuable data is in genealogy and narrative files which do not take much space. The iMac is holding about 40 GB on the hard drive; the other machines,

Re: Cloning

2008-11-08 Thread Al
Thank you Dan, this brings me a lot closer to a decision. On Nov 7, 11:11 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nature of the backup is such that you need lower level access than AFP provides.  CCC supports this by creating an encrypted tunnel between the two Macs then running on each.  I

Re: Cloning

2008-11-08 Thread Dan
At 7:03 AM -0800 11/8/2008, Al wrote: On Nov 7, 11:11 am, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nature of the backup is such that you need lower level access than AFP provides. CCC supports this by creating an encrypted tunnel between the two Macs then running on each. I haven't tested it yet

Re: Cloning problem

2008-11-07 Thread yawg
Hi Dan, Thanks for the advice. I know about aliases, have been working with Macs for 18 years. The question marks aside the apps themselves don't work when I open them in ther real folders. My disks seem to be fine. Sorry I couldn't learn anything new this time. What does input/output error

Re: Cloning problem

2008-11-07 Thread Dan
At 3:38 AM -0800 11/7/2008, yawg wrote: Please remember to BOTTOM post and TRIM on these LEM lists. It makes tracking support issues MUCH easier. I know about aliases, have been working with Macs for 18 years. The question marks aside the apps themselves don't work when I open them in ther

Re: Cloning problem

2008-11-07 Thread yawg
Hi Dan, Thanks for the advice. I know about aliases, have been working with Macs for 18 years. The question marks aside the apps themselves don't work when I open them in ther real folders. My disks seem to be fine. Sorry I couldn't learn anything new this time. What does input/output error

Re: Cloning

2008-11-07 Thread Dan
At 5:00 PM -0800 11/6/2008, Al wrote: Might this work using an external FireWire or USB hard drive on one Mac, and can two or three other Macs reach that hard drive via ethernet and sharing? Or does this whole idea break down by having Public folders or Drop Boxes in the way? If it works,

Re: Cloning problem

2008-11-06 Thread Dan
At 10:02 AM -0800 11/6/2008, yawg wrote: Every time I try to clone my Panther Partition to a partition on another disk I get the same error and CCC is telling me: System/Library/CoreServices/BootX:Input/Output error One or more files in that directory or the directory itself, on your source,

Re: Cloning

2008-11-06 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
Have to buy a bootable external hard drive, though, right? This sounds like a good plan ~ just don't have a bootable drive yet. On Wednesday, November 5, 2008, at 09:15 AM, dc wrote: Use a cloning utility like arbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper and you will have a bootable system with all

Re: Cloning

2008-11-06 Thread Al
On Nov 6, 12:40 pm, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget TM.  It's not ripe yet. Use CCC.  The new version is very nice.  You tell it what folders to copy and it does it.  As an incremental backup, If you check the archive modified and deleted items box, then instead of deleting the stale

Re: Cloning

2008-11-06 Thread insightinmind
I assume that each Mac would need its own, dedicated backup partition on that external storage, and that it would be bootable. Would it be feasible, or better even, to use Network-attached Storage (NAS) with CCC? I understand that NAS can work via ethernet and Wi- Fi. My wife prefers

Re: Cloning

2008-11-06 Thread PeterH
On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:16 PM, insightinmind wrote: The QS is connected by a slow USB connected Airlink wireless bar, with an iffy Zydas driver. The 4.5.70 driver has been flawless at my site ... over both laptops and desktops. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Cloning

2008-11-05 Thread insightinmind
On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:15 AM, dc wrote: Use a cloning utility like arbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper and you will have a bootable system with all your files intact. If your Macs hard drive fails you can simply swap the drive from your external enclosure. I believe you could also startup from

Re: Cloning

2008-11-04 Thread Fabian Fang
On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Was considering Time Machine but my brain balked at the $300 price tag. You do not have to spend $300 to take advantage of Time Machine back- up under Leopard. Any appropriate external drive can be used. You may be thinking of