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-Original Message-
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
Sent: Sep 14, 2009 12:15 PM
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote:
The problem
On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote:
The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4
itself, but
with the applications that run over it.
which are waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data.
The SPOD is the Mac's way of telling you I haven't crashed, but
On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote:
The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4
itself, but
with the applications that run over it.
which are waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data.
The SPOD
On 8/25/09 9:47 PM, Mullin9 at ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll go
for 1GB RAM for a useable
On 8/26/09 11:38 AM, Richard Gerome at onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:
I really think you should have a processor speed over 650mhz for running
Tiger... I have a few old clamshells and my 466 runs faster then my 366
running Jaguar, I get the spinning color disc too on the 366 more then
On 8/26/09 11:53 AM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
The SPOD mostly comes from apps needing resources, such as waiting
for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data.
The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but
with the applications that run over it.
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On 8/28/09 4:13 PM, Bill Connelly at billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:
Tiger runs quite nicely on G3s. I would recommend 512Mb RAM as a
minimum. Generally speaking Tiger will be faster than Panther.
has anyone mentioned a good video card being necessary?
Well, I run 10.4 here with Beige
On 8/28/09 4:45 PM, steveoa at steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well
with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits there
with the spinning
On 8/30/09 5:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
At 8:44 PM +0200 8/30/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote:
How does Panther or even Jaguar run on your BW?
Panther and Jaguar are *slower* than Tiger.
Yes, but when it comes to memory requirements I bet Tiger uses more RAM then
Panther or
On Sep 13, 2009, at 4:33 PM, MaGioZal wrote:
Well, I run 10.4 here with Beige G3 without video card... It works,
but it
doesn't show graphics based on more recent/powerful video
archicteture, like
coverflow view in Safrai and iTunes.
If you get a fast video card like a Radeon 9100
At 6:28 PM -0300 9/13/2009, MaGioZal wrote:
On 8/26/09 11:53 AM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
The SPOD mostly comes from apps needing resources, such as waiting
for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data.
The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but
Sent from my iPod
On 31 Aug 2009, at 03:00, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
Back in the days of the Classic Mac OS, there were things called Desk
Accessories (DAs).
Have you come across Amnesty Singles? It turns those useful (and
useless) widgets into small applications
At 10:10 PM -0600 8/30/2009, Nestamicky wrote:
You're still sending HTML-based emails, and now they're in multiple font sizes.
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On 8/30/09 8:00 PM, Dan wrote:
There are some nice widgets available. But I find the memory and
lack of versatility to be a killer. So I try to find
Hi!
-- Original message --
Subject: Re: OSX10.4 on G3
Date:Sonntag, 30. August 2009N
From:Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com
To: G-List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
With certain upgrades (RAM, graphics card, even overclocking) a G3 can run
Tiger very well
On Aug 30, 2009, at 4:43 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
The question is what you actually need to install Tiger.
Officially:
To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs:
• A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
• Built-in FireWire
• At least 256 MB of RAM
• DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo
There must not be a FireWire (why should it be ?)
And a borrowed external USB DVD drive will do - if the Mac has the other
features.
And all of this is possible without XPostFacto.
A large amount of RAM is always recommended.
But be careful about large disks with these machines.
I transferred an
On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Dan wrote:
At 5:47 PM -0700 8/25/2009, Mullin9 wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll
go for
-- Original message --
Subject: Re: OSX10.4 on G3
Date:Sonntag, 30. August 2009N
From:Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Dan wrote:
At 5:47 PM -0700 8/25/2009, Mullin9 wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm
Clarke
He said early model... I would assume (knowing the saying) that he means
tray loader or maybe pre firewire.
The iMac has built in FireWire, USB.350 Mhz.
The CD is a Slot Loaderno tray.
More info on model would help us give u an definitive answer.
Hope I have provided the
At 5:54 PM +0200 8/30/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote:
On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Dan wrote:
At 5:47 PM -0700 8/25/2009, Mullin9 wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
The problem
On 8/30/09 8:00 PM, Dan wrote:
There are some nice widgets available. But I find the memory and
lack of versatility to be a killer. So I try to find small
applications that will do the same jobs
Dan, since you've got the smart ones of us off Dashboard, etc, would you
care to share
A question for the List Mavens,
I have an iMac at one of my schools. It is an early model and does
not have a DVD drive. I have 10.3.9 installed and want to upgrade to
10.4x. I have Apple's 10.4 update disc, but it is a DVD.
Is there another way to upgrade my iMacor must I purchase a
One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD drive is
to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put the drive back
in your older G4.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.netwrote:
A question for the List Mavens,
I have an
older G3 I meant.
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A little more on Spotlight indexing Off/On ...
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Dan wrote:
At 4:18 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote:
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote:
many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few
commands
On 8/29/09 8:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
That's when I decided to place them all in the Privacy tab.
Where's the Privacy tab, why is it necessary to put things
thereplease expand. I'm on the quest to make my Ti efficient. Also,
Spotlight has a terminal command to turn it off? I used
On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Nestamicky wrote:
On 8/29/09 8:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
That's when I decided to place them all in the Privacy tab.
Where's the Privacy tab, why is it necessary to put things
thereplease expand. I'm on the quest to make my Ti efficient.
Also,
On 8/29/09 8:32 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:
So
turning off Spotlight may not be overall more efficient.
Well, this is sad. I was thinking that doing so would be one good way to
run old machines efficiently. I really don't care about the initial
indexing; I can go take some fresh air. Oh
Paul Kemner wrote:
One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD
drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put
the drive back in your older G4.
That is doing it the hard way.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden
Clark Martin wrote:
Paul Kemner wrote:
One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD
drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put
the drive back in your older G4.
That is doing it the hard way.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23
Charles Lenington wrote:
Clark Martin wrote:
Paul Kemner wrote:
One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD
drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put
the drive back in your older G4.
That is doing it the hard way.
On
On 28/08/09 12:40 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm
reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge
and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can
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Subject: Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 28/08/09 12:40 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm
reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge
and all the yrs
On 29/08/09 11:31 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hey Arnel, thanks for that info!!! I guess there is no way to do this on a 466
clamshell with 576mb??? Because Panther was way too slow on that machine for
me so I down graded it to Jaguar... I ended up buying a used
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM, ronaldo waltg...@magma.ca wrote:
Hi... I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM... even better with 768 MB...
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!)
I only had 384 megs on my G4 Digital Audio when I originally installed
10.4 so that can't be what's causing the installer to hang.
On Aug 25, 8:47 pm, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm
reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge
and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can run on a G4
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but
when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too???
With all my knowledge and all the
At 12:40 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Richard Gerome wrote:
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when
I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too?
We don't mean to confuse usually. We just tend to stray off subject
sometimes. :)
With all my knowledge and all the
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote:
many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands
in Terminal).
Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this?
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On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote:
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote:
many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands
in Terminal).
Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this?
Not to Usurp ... AFAIK, For each partition indexed:
sudo
On Aug 28, 8:13 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:40 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but
when I'm reading these emails
At 4:18 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Bill Connelly wrote:
On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote:
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote:
many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands
in Terminal).
Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this?
sudo
Thanks for the feedback, before I do anything I think I need to run
the Disk Utility, - could someone let me know where I can find it?to
find any probs with the System on HD ?
Then I need to run Archive and Install from the Installation disk?
Steve
On Aug 26, 3:53 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com
On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:54 AM, steveoa wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, before I do anything I think I need to run
the Disk Utility, - could someone let me know where I can find it?to
find any probs with the System on HD ?
You can run Disk Utility from the Installation Disk. Just Startup
Hi... I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM... even better with 768 MB...
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
mode (or any other?) due to
ronaldo wrote:
Hi... I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM... even better with 768 MB...
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
mode (or
On 27-08-2009 23:11, ronaldo, waltg...@magma.ca, wrote:
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
Wouldn't this be the real
At 2:11 PM -0700 8/27/2009, ronaldo wrote:
been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list) that G3s
can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk mode
(or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
A bit of a clarification ...
This issue is
At 2:11 PM -0700 8/27/2009, ronaldo wrote:
Hi... I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM... even better with 768 MB...
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire,
On 28-08-2009 00:23, Clark Martin, cm...@sonic.net, wrote:
Well, he's clearly booting from the disk via Firewire. But that's okay
since an iMac CAN boot from Firewire. It's G3 BW towers that cannot
boot from Firewire nor use Target Disk mode.
Sorry Clark but I have to disagree with
I really think you should have a processor speed over 650mhz for running
Tiger... I have a few old clamshells and my 466 runs faster then my 366 running
Jaguar, I get the spinning color disc too on the 366 more then the 466... When
I went from 10.1 to 10.2.8 that slowed both machines
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll go
for 1GB RAM for a useable Tiger 10.4
just put in another 512 RAM, and your OS will Install,
At 5:47 PM -0700 8/25/2009, Mullin9 wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:34 pm, steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
The problem is the lack of RAM, 512 MB is just barely minimum, I'll
go for 1GB RAM for a useable Tiger 10.4 just put in
At 2:34 PM -0700 8/25/2009, steveoa wrote:
G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, 63Gb spare on HD
Nice iMac.
trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader ..., using an external
DVD via Firewire- all seems well
with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits
there with the spinning
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