Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jun 30, 2011, at 6:21 AM, rbridge wrote:

 I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support
 Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a
 generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the
 machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it.

You need to have an OHCI-compatible card; however afaik most or all USB2 cards 
are, since Windpws XP required OHCI as well.

What does system profiler say?

What OS and version are you using? OS 9 does not support USB2 and I'm not sure 
all USB2 chipsets will work.

OSX should require no drivers, since USB2 support is built-in.

In OSX, it should just work, so either the card isn't plugged in all the way, 
you have a dead PCI slot, or it's a DOA card.

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Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 30-06-2011 15:21, rbridge ha scritto:

 I added a
 generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the
 machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the
 webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1
 ports...
So we know the webcam is ok, it just needs a faster port.

Did you try anything else on the USB2 card?
A memory stick, something simple, so you can check if the card is
operational at all.

  Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe only for PC?
It seems to me you're doing everything right, but maybe your card is not
Mac-compatible.
USB2 cards can be tricky... I tried one recently (I got it from a PC), a
memory stick on it worked fine, but a 2,5 external HD had troubles.

OTOH, the Mac-compatible card I have, always worked fine.

  Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0?
In OSX you don't need drivers (they are built-in), in OS9 there are NO USB2
drivers.

 If it works at some point, do I end up with  two USB buses?
Yes, that's how they appear in my G4 DA with the USB2 card: there's an USB
bus and an High speed USB bus.
(actually there are several USB bus, because I have an USB 1.1 Hub
connected; anyway System profiler can tell the difference between speeds).


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Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread faithie999
in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip
works--but other usb cards from my parts bin with other mfr's chips
don't work.  the mfr of the chip is silkscreened onto the chip.

ken



On Jun 30, 9:21 am, rbridge rbri...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
 I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support
 Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a
 generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the
 machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the
 webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1
 ports...they see the camera but operation is sporadic and the video
 shuts off quickly.  Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe
 only for PC?  Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0?

 If it works at some point, do I end up with  two USB buses? That is,
 one at 1.1 for the keyboard plugs on the original rear panel, and a
 2.0 bus at the four new PCI plugs...? Any help much appreciated...

 Bob Bridge
 St. Peter's NS, Canada

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Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread peterhaas

 in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip
 works--but other usb cards from my parts bin with other mfr's chips
 don't work.  the mfr of the chip is silkscreened onto the chip.

TI's chip set is the gold standard for USB 2.0, but later VIAs work as well.

However, early VIAs may not work.

NEC, as Renesas (sp ?), is the gold standard for USB 3.0 chip sets.

Indicia on chips is applied by laser etching, not by ink or paint.

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Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 1-07-2011 0:26, faithie999 ha scritto:

 in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip
 works
Mhh, the USB2 card I tried (coming from a PC) has got a NEC chip, but it was
problematic nevertheless.

Maybe not all the NEC chips are created equal. ;-)

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Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0

2011-06-30 Thread Sean Carroll

I added a
generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the
machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it


Did you press the CUDA button to reset the PMU after you installed the  
PCI card?



If it works at some point, do I end up with  two USB buses?


Yes. It's not a problem.

Sean Carroll
slcarr...@me.com

Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.6 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SATA 750 GB hard drive,  
Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 and Tiger 10.4.11,
Gigabit Ethernet  M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI cards, ATI Radeon 9800  
Pro 128 MB AGP







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