[Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
Hi! I propose to automatic create a virtual Meta-Buddy (or meta-contact) when a buddy has the same alias (name) and are in the same group. With that people can have the same person accessible for different JID's and in the same place inside the roaster. And by other hand the meta-buddy's are automatically adopted and also does not need to create some strange roaster structure. I haven't researched for possible extensions for roaster but I think that normally people does not have 2 different persons with the same alias (name) and in the same group, and when it was is because it is the same person with different jids. Thanks! ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
Pau Rodriguez-Estivill píše v Po 27. 03. 2006 v 17:02 +0200: Hi! I propose to automatic create a virtual Meta-Buddy (or meta-contact) when a buddy has the same alias (name) and are in the same group. With that people can have the same person accessible for different JID's and in the same place inside the roaster. And by other hand the meta-buddy's are automatically adopted and also does not need to create some strange roaster structure. I haven't researched for possible extensions for roaster but I think that normally people does not have 2 different persons with the same alias (name) and in the same group, and when it was is because it is the same person with different jids. Thanks! This is realy nice idea !! There should be some way to determine most usable contact to be used as default (when Metta-Buddy is selected -- for example: double clicked when opening chat). This wants simple and genial idea, how make roaster behaviour. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! PGP: http://jk.myserver.cz/kontakt/jk-pgpkey.asc signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálně podepsaná část zprávy ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
Pau Rodriguez-Estivill wrote: Hi! I propose to automatic create a virtual Meta-Buddy (or meta-contact) when a buddy has the same alias (name) and are in the same group. With that people can have the same person accessible for different JID's and in the same place inside the roaster. And by other hand the meta-buddy's are automatically adopted and also does not need to create some strange roaster structure. I haven't researched for possible extensions for roaster but I think that normally people does not have 2 different persons with the same alias (name) and in the same group, and when it was is because it is the same person with different jids. Thanks! I don't think it's a so good idea to automaticaly do metacontacts. Metacontacts are implemented in Gajim (svn) so you just have to Drag and Drop one contact on another to have them grouped. Isn't it what you want? The one that is selected when you dubble click on such a contact is computed this way: first jabber contact. If not transport contacts. then (if several jabber contacts) priority then (if several with same prio) status The JEP (that is not out yet, but soonI hope) also provides a way to specify the priority in metacontacts. Gajim take that into account when computing the one that has to be used, but for the moment doesn't allow user to modify this priority. -- Yann ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
I have to saiy I haven't use Gaim2 and a lot here haven't. so when you refer to Gaim2 please be more detailed. Now about the auto magic, it could be good but it could be also bad. those automations also spit a helper app that expalins what happend and says how to turn this off (but then again we're not word processor:P) Why I think this automation shouldn't be done in Gajim is this: I have Paul McCartney and I want to add Paul Thomas Andreson in my roster. McCartney I have him as 'paul' so I go to add PTA as 'paul' too. I add him (I dont remember or don't care that I have alreayd a paul). result: PTA is hidden under McCartney music_geeknessand I go listen to: How do you sleep of Lennon. /music_geekness unless I miss sth, I don't think we should do this automation. User can just drag and drop two pauls and we're sure he's surpised by automatiions. On 3/27/06, Pau Rodriguez-Estivill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josef Kufner wrote: Pau Rodriguez-Estivill píše v Po 27. 03. 2006 v 17:02 +0200: Hi! I propose to automatic create a virtual Meta-Buddy (or meta-contact) when a buddy has the same alias (name) and are in the same group. With that people can have the same person accessible for different JID's and in the same place inside the roaster. And by other hand the meta-buddy's are automatically adopted and also does not need to create some strange roaster structure. I haven't researched for possible extensions for roaster but I think that normally people does not have 2 different persons with the same alias (name) and in the same group, and when it was is because it is the same person with different jids. Thanks! This is realy nice idea !! There should be some way to determine most usable contact to be used as default (when Metta-Buddy is selected -- for example: double clicked when opening chat). This wants simple and genial idea, how make roaster behaviour. We can use as first idea the usage of Meta-Contacts of Gaim 2.0, it has a good idea too to add some functionality for start chatting directly to a specified resource instead of using the default priorities. For automatic usage could be implemented as in jabber by checking the state, the priority, and time since last iq send as priorities while check between 2 different jid's. But as said the possibility to send to specified resource could be also for specified jid inside the meta-buddy also. CU ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
On 3/27/06, Nikos Kouremenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to saiy I haven't use Gaim2 and a lot here haven't. so when yourefer to Gaim2 please be more detailed.Gaim 2 let the user to send the mesages directly to the buddy (but not yet to the resource directly). On the other hand gaim allways reply to the last buddy who send a missage. So If an user talks with me using Yahoo I will reply to Yahoo but when the user change and starts to talk by jabber I will follow his change and reply automaticly to the jabber. In Gaim 2 also apears the avatar for each buddy inside the meta-contact.The normal order of priority sould be first statuses by: Free4Chat, avaliable, away, xa, offline. And then by priority when the statuses are the same, and last the will be more priority for the resource who sends the last iq. Isn't it? But will this is not the main part. Now about the auto magic, it could be good but it could be also bad.those automations also spit a helper app that expalins what happend and says how to turn this off (but then again we're not wordprocessor:P)Why I think this automation shouldn't be done in Gajim is this:I have Paul McCartney and I want to add Paul Thomas Andreson in my roster. McCartney I have him as 'paul'so I go to add PTA as 'paul' too. I add him (I dont remember or don'tcare that I have alreayd a paul). result: PTA is hidden underMcCartney music_geeknessand I go listen to: How do you sleep of Lennon. /music_geeknessunless I miss sth, I don't think we should do this automation. Usercan just drag and drop two pauls and we're sure he's surpised byautomatiions.Ok, If it is implemented in SVN then maybe is not needed to change any thing, because what you say is right. I will take a look to SVN features. Thanks! ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] Adding new accounts...
Hi again! Just because you have added the new mail check for gmail. I think that could be also good idea to automatically change the connection server when server is gmail.com or googlemail.com to directly talk.google.com. To avoid manual changes for this server. On the other hand I have looked to gajim meta contacts and I see that you propose you own jabber roaster extensions called gajim:metacontacts. Maybe could be good idea before release the 0.10 to try to talk with jabber.org and crate a JEP and permit other programs to benefit of that. :P ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
