Re: [Gajim-devel] gsoc: file transfer over jinge

2010-03-13 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Zhenchao Li wrote:
 Hello everyone!

Hi man,

   I am a graduate student in China and I am very interested in
 implementing file transfer over jingle for gajim. For the last month
 I've been exploring gajim's source code, reading documentations about
 gajim's architecture, reading xmpp's specifications on jingle and file
 transfer(XEP-0096, XEP-0234, XEP-0166) and getting some hands-on
 experience by trying to write a patch for a bug(#5614
 http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/5614). So I want to share with you my
 thoughts here.

Very good idea, and very good project.

[...]

   I also want to add some additional features that might help to enhance
 user experience:
 
   First: file transfer status in chat window. [...]
 Suggestions welcomed about this!

Nice, it's a long time ticket, and sure we'll discuss that when time
will come.

   Second: drag and drop currently works perfectly, but sending of
 multiple files are not supported. [...]

You can DnD multiple files, and send them in one shot. But receiver wil
have to accept them one by one. Too bad. I haven't read Jingle FT
specifications, but is it possible to do the negociation ofr several
files? If yes that's the solution, else we'll have to discuss that in
standards mailing list, so that it's added to the XEP or a new XEP
should be written to be complient with other clients. This will take
some time to define that, so not sure you'll have time to implement that.

   If time allows I also want to add file encryption feature, which might
 be as simple as key exchange and encryption using DES or AES. But I
 don't know how to standardize this feature so it understood by all xmpp
 clients. I appreciate any advice on this.

I already saw discussions about encrypted jingle sessions ... But I
don't know the status of that at all.

   Any advices, thoughts, suggestions, questions are welcomed!

I have to tell you that you're not the only one contacting me for this
project. I don't know how many slots XSF will have this year, and I
don't know how many valuable project they will receive, so it's
impossible to know how many slots Gajim will have (if any).
Jingle file transfer is in XSF priorities, so this kind of project will
be in the top of the list. I think.

   PS: After discussing my idea here, should I also present it to the XSF
 mailing list?

I could be a good idea indeed to present yourself to XSF comunity so
that people who will vote for projects know a bit about you.

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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-03-01 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Mateusz Biliński wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 20:35, Yann Leboulanger aste...@lagaule.org wrote:
 Mateusz Biliński wrote:
 Might come in handy: Alek's blog posts about implementing server-side
 history in Psi during GSoC 2008:
 http://alek.silverstone.name/en/tags/soc
 I started a wiki page for GSOC. See http://trac.gajim.org/wiki/GajimGSOC
 
 http://blog.xmpp.org/?p=297
 
 I guess this pretty much ends discussion for this year's GSoC.
 
 Unless Gajim plans to apply as separate org, which IMHO is not a good
 idea currently, keeping in mind all the program administration tasks.
 

Bad news :(

But indeed I don't plan to apply as an organisation. So no GSOC for this
year. I'll pay the server myself.

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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-28 Thread Mateusz Biliński
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 20:35, Yann Leboulanger aste...@lagaule.org wrote:
 Mateusz Biliński wrote:
 Might come in handy: Alek's blog posts about implementing server-side
 history in Psi during GSoC 2008:
 http://alek.silverstone.name/en/tags/soc

 I started a wiki page for GSOC. See http://trac.gajim.org/wiki/GajimGSOC

http://blog.xmpp.org/?p=297

I guess this pretty much ends discussion for this year's GSoC.

Unless Gajim plans to apply as separate org, which IMHO is not a good
idea currently, keeping in mind all the program administration tasks.

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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer

Am 09.02.2009 um 07:04 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


codecs are handled by gstreamer, not sure we do a lot about that. I CC
to liori who may have ideas about that.


Ok, then another project would be to get all that running on Windows.  
I'm not so sure how well gstreamer runs on Windows, a while ago, it  
wouldn't run there at all IIRC.



Gajim is not an organisation.


It doesn't need to be. Last year, Audacious participated in the GSoC  
as well and we're not an organization there either AFAIK. :)



And I don't have to time to manage all that process.


Well, I don't know how much work it is to manage that, I have to  
admit. But is it really more than having a list of projects, assigning  
mentors to them and looking that the mentors do their jobs?



PS: I replied to the list, even if you message was only to me.


Yeah, thanks. Apple Mail often screws that up. I always have to add  
the list manually.


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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-09 Thread Yann Leboulanger

Jonathan Schleifer a écrit :

Am 09.02.2009 um 07:04 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


codecs are handled by gstreamer, not sure we do a lot about that. I CC
to liori who may have ideas about that.


Ok, then another project would be to get all that running on Windows. 
I'm not so sure how well gstreamer runs on Windows, a while ago, it 
wouldn't run there at all IIRC.


Yep that could be a project, but maybe for next year. We don't have it 
under linux yet.



Gajim is not an organisation.


It doesn't need to be. Last year, Audacious participated in the GSoC as 
well and we're not an organization there either AFAIK. :)



And I don't have to time to manage all that process.


Well, I don't know how much work it is to manage that, I have to admit. 
But is it really more than having a list of projects, assigning mentors 
to them and looking that the mentors do their jobs?


+ handle thing with google (payment for example). Really I don't have 
time for that. It doesn't take 5 minutes. And I thank Peter Saint-Andre 
a lot for that.


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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Schleifer

Am 08.02.2009 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


Hi all,

GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
project we could propose.

So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?

We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.


I think we should not introduce any new features for now, but finish  
and stabilize the features introduced in the last SoCs. I'm mainly  
talking about Jingle, the Plugin System and ESessions here.


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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Schleifer

Am 08.02.2009 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


Hi all,

GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
project we could propose.

So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?

We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.


I think we should not introduce any new features for now, but finish  
and stabilize the features introduced in the last SoCs. I'm mainly  
talking about Jingle, the Plugin System and ESessions here.


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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:

 I think adding FT should be pretty easy, whereas I think video might be
 a lot of work due to the codecs etc.

codecs are handled by gstreamer, not sure we do a lot about that. I CC
to liori who may have ideas about that.

 So, maybe, we could as well participate in the GSoC and not only XMPP?
 There's no requirement for us to be only part of the XMPP projects, we
 could be a project as well in the GSoC.

Gajim is not an organisation. And I don't have to time to manage all
that process.

PS: I replied to the list, even if you message was only to me.
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