[galaxy-dev] User name / public name confusion.

2012-01-11 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Dear developers,

Subject: Minor issue - Confusion about public / user name.

Description:
When creating an account or managing user information, the error ``User name
must contain only lower-case letters, numbers and '-''' may occur if the user
chooses an invalid public name. This error can be confusing when the user tries
to search for a ``User name'' field. Perhaps this error should mention the
field name.


With kind regards,
Jeroen.

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[galaxy-dev] Wrapper generator (2).

2011-08-31 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Dear,

A few months ago we proposed a wrapper generator, we are now at a point where
we can present our idea as a working prototype.

The wrapper generator is not specific for Galaxy, in principle any target can
be used, but since Galaxy is our most prominent use case at the moment, we
already implemented templates to generate the Galaxy wrappers.
By using this approach, we are also able to quickly respond to changes in the
Galaxy wrapper system.

From the about page:
---
LUMC Interface Generator was developed at the Department of Human Genetics,
Leiden University Medical Center (LUMC). Its aim is to facilitate developers in
creating user-friendly interfaces for a command line tool.

In the agile development environment of bioinformatics, many command line tools
are created quickly to fill in gaps between complex information processes. A
command line interface (CLI) is sometimes sufficient for the task, but it
limits adoption by a broader audience. As such, it's often necessary for the
developer to create a CLI wrapper that provides a more user friendly interface.
LUMC Interface Generator was developed to systematize and expedite this very
time consuming process. 
---

You can try the prototype at: http://ngs.fixedpoint.nl/interfaceGen/

Please note that this service is in beta release and for testing purposes ONLY.
It will be moved to a different location in the future.

We would appreciate any feedback, negative or positive.


With kind regards,
Zuotian Tatum, Jeroen F. J. Laros.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:41:47PM +0200, J. F. J. Laros wrote:
 Dear,
 
 I need to add a number of tools to my local Galaxy installation, but the size
 of the wrappers I've seen keep me from writing one.
 
 Are there wrapper generators to make this task easier? If not, I might want
 to make one. A possible implementation I'm considering is to first make a
 (WSDL) description of any command line tool (using soaplab2 for example) and
 by making a general wrapper builder that takes WSDL as input.
 
 Does something similar already exist and if not, does this idea sound okay?
 
 
 With kind regards,
 Jeroen.
 
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Re: [galaxy-dev] Wrapper generator.

2011-05-15 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Dear Florent,

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 09:15:25PM +1000, Florent Angly wrote:
 Hi Jeroen,
 
 The idea of having a tool to automatically generate Galaxy wrappers
 is attractive, and in some cases, possible. For example, I know that
 the tools in QIIME (http://qiime.sourceforge.net/) use some sort of
 argument declaration and a Python module to read it and deal with
 the command-line interface. This makes it possible to write a
 converter that would generate (or at least kickstart) Galaxy
 wrappers. I also have some Perl scripts that use the Getopt::Euclid
 module (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Getopt-Euclid/), which declares
 all the arguments taken by the program. I have been contemplating
 writing code that would convert the Getopt::Euclid specifications
 into a Galaxy wrapper.

Yes, I thought of that too. Many languages have a getopt construction of some
sort, so that would be a really neat way, especially in strongly typed
languages. Parsing the man page is another option I considered, but the syntax
is a bit too loose I'm afraid.

For now, I've created a widget where people can fill in a command, its
description, name, parameters, etc. (something similar to what Dave suggested).
This widget creates an XML file which can then be used as a description of the
interface (ultimately I don't want to describe the interface either, hence the
widget).

Currently, I'm creating templates for the wrappers using the jinja2 templating
language, the interface generator would only need to parse the XML description 
and by using one of the templates the desired wrapper can be generated.

Even if this is not directly applicable in Galaxy because of bugs, I think this
solution can be used in a broader sense to generate other interfaces (CGI for
example) by writing a different template.

Thanks for your feedback.


With kind regards,
Jeroen.

 
 At the moment, though, there are quite a few outstanding irritating
 bugs in the Galaxy wrapper system that force you to use workarounds
 to get a working wrapper: 
 https://bitbucket.org/galaxy/galaxy-central/issues?component=tools-configsort=id
  
 https://bitbucket.org/galaxy/galaxy-central/issues?component=tools-configsort=id.
 Needless to say that it would be easier to automated wrapper
 generation if these bugs were fixed.
 
 Regards,
 
 Florent
 
 
 
 
 On 14/05/11 00:03, J. F. J. Laros wrote:
 Dear Dave,
 
 This indeed sounds like an interesting alternative. I'll look into it.
 
 
 With kind regards,
 Jeroen.
 
 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:48:12PM +, Dave Walton wrote:
 An alternative might be to have something like GenePattern has.  It's not as
 seamless for the person who wants the wrapper as what's been suggested here,
 but it's easier than creating a lengthy XML file.
 
 GenePattern has an HTML Form interface for entering all the components of
 your tool, including the command-line you want to expose and the parameters
 you want to make available, and then it generates the back-end.
 
 There are definite down-sides to this.  I've never tested what keeps the
 tool in GenePattern from letting you do destructive things.
 
 Dave
 
 
 On 5/13/11 9:41 AM, Peter Cockp.j.a.c...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM, J. F. J. Larosj.f.j.la...@lumc.nl  
 wrote:
 Hi Pieter,
 
 Thanks for the reply, but from the looks of it, this is a way to 
 incorporate
 webservice clients into galaxy. What I want is slightly different.
 
 I'm talking about adding a normal command line tool (an aligner for 
 example)
 but I'm not willing to write a wrapper each time (the wrapper for BWA for
 example is 327 lines). If a computer readable description of the interface
 exists, this description can be used to generate a python wrapper. I
 mentioned
 WSDL because this also gives a description of an interface, but any
 equivalent
 description would of course be fine.
 
 Ideally, such a description is maintained by the developer of the tool in
 question.
 
 With kind regards,
 Jeroen.
 How many tools can you name that come with such a machine readable
 file describing their command line interface?
 
 I can think of only one - the EMBOSS tool suite and their ACD files
 (used internally by EMBOSS to generate the command line help,
 documentation, and do the command line option parsing).
 
 Unfortunately I don't think there is an easy answer - even if wrapping
 a tool where all the input and output formats are already supported in
 Galaxy.
 
 Peter
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[galaxy-dev] Wrapper generator.

2011-05-13 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Dear,

I need to add a number of tools to my local Galaxy installation, but the size
of the wrappers I've seen keep me from writing one.

Are there wrapper generators to make this task easier? If not, I might want to
make one. A possible implementation I'm considering is to first make a (WSDL)
description of any command line tool (using soaplab2 for example) and by making
a general wrapper builder that takes WSDL as input.

Does something similar already exist and if not, does this idea sound okay?


With kind regards,
Jeroen.

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Re: [galaxy-dev] Wrapper generator.

2011-05-13 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Hi Pieter,

Thanks for the reply, but from the looks of it, this is a way to incorporate 
webservice clients into galaxy. What I want is slightly different.

I'm talking about adding a normal command line tool (an aligner for example)
but I'm not willing to write a wrapper each time (the wrapper for BWA for
example is 327 lines). If a computer readable description of the interface
exists, this description can be used to generate a python wrapper. I mentioned
WSDL because this also gives a description of an interface, but any equivalent
description would of course be fine. 

Ideally, such a description is maintained by the developer of the tool in
question.


With kind regards,
Jeroen.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 02:16:37PM +0200, Pieter Neerincx wrote:
 Hi Jeroen,
 
 You can use web services thanks to the work from Sumedha Ganjoo et al. from
 the University of Georgia. You can find that on the community site:
 
 Tools Shed - Data Source - Suite of Web service addition tools.
 
 http://community.g2.bx.psu.edu/common/view_tool?sort=suitecntrller=toolwebapp=communityoperation=view_toolid=1766c85c07803d78
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pi
 
 On May 13, 2011, at 1:41 PM, J. F. J. Laros wrote:
 
  Dear,
  
  I need to add a number of tools to my local Galaxy installation, but the 
  size
  of the wrappers I've seen keep me from writing one.
  
  Are there wrapper generators to make this task easier? If not, I might want 
  to
  make one. A possible implementation I'm considering is to first make a 
  (WSDL)
  description of any command line tool (using soaplab2 for example) and by 
  making
  a general wrapper builder that takes WSDL as input.
  
  Does something similar already exist and if not, does this idea sound okay?
  
  
  With kind regards,
  Jeroen.
  
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Re: [galaxy-dev] Wrapper generator.

2011-05-13 Thread J. F. J. Laros
Dear Dave,

This indeed sounds like an interesting alternative. I'll look into it.


With kind regards,
Jeroen.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:48:12PM +, Dave Walton wrote:
 An alternative might be to have something like GenePattern has.  It's not as
 seamless for the person who wants the wrapper as what's been suggested here,
 but it's easier than creating a lengthy XML file.
 
 GenePattern has an HTML Form interface for entering all the components of
 your tool, including the command-line you want to expose and the parameters
 you want to make available, and then it generates the back-end.
 
 There are definite down-sides to this.  I've never tested what keeps the
 tool in GenePattern from letting you do destructive things.
 
 Dave
 
 
 On 5/13/11 9:41 AM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM, J. F. J. Laros j.f.j.la...@lumc.nl wrote:
  Hi Pieter,
  
  Thanks for the reply, but from the looks of it, this is a way to 
  incorporate
  webservice clients into galaxy. What I want is slightly different.
  
  I'm talking about adding a normal command line tool (an aligner for 
  example)
  but I'm not willing to write a wrapper each time (the wrapper for BWA for
  example is 327 lines). If a computer readable description of the interface
  exists, this description can be used to generate a python wrapper. I
  mentioned
  WSDL because this also gives a description of an interface, but any
  equivalent
  description would of course be fine.
  
  Ideally, such a description is maintained by the developer of the tool in
  question.
  
  With kind regards,
  Jeroen.
  
  How many tools can you name that come with such a machine readable
  file describing their command line interface?
  
  I can think of only one - the EMBOSS tool suite and their ACD files
  (used internally by EMBOSS to generate the command line help,
  documentation, and do the command line option parsing).
  
  Unfortunately I don't think there is an easy answer - even if wrapping
  a tool where all the input and output formats are already supported in
  Galaxy.
  
  Peter
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