Unfortunately thom, that very much depends upon the country's legal system
and how reasonable the government are prepared to be as reguards
accessibility issues and writing new legislation. the Us government does
tend to be better than the english govenrment in this respect. For instance,
also, there are one or two types of game perspective that it strikes me
would be very difficult to translate into audio. As a thought experiment,
I've been considdering ways to translate various main stream games into
audio, and mostly I can come up with tactics to do it, even in games that
Try sendspace.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] sending large file
I've been trying to email my boxing game setup.exe file to a few people
but
each message has come
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: [Blindad] New Accessible games
Hello all,
Just wanted you to know about this company, with which I am familiar. Here
is an article about them. If you want
me too!
i wish you luck raul!
regards,
aaron
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O we have the accessibility built into the game, but write in a toggle for
it so that the sighted player could play the game like they normally would,
but when the blind guy loaded his save file the accessibility would be
there.
Bryan and Jennie
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All well and good but just one or two people, or even one or two-hundred,
isn't going to convince anybody. It all comes down to statistics. Get the
names of every blind gamer in the world and the kind of games they like to
play, put that into a cohesive, statistic rich form that the big name
And if we couldn't pay the fine? then what? Most of us don't have that kind
of money.
Josh
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I think the world of courts and lawyers is the dumbest thing ever, I wish
the person who dreamed that stupid stuff up never existed.
Josh
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Okay, I found the correct forest. Now though I am having trouble beating
Fearspit and his friend. I have an ME 73 SP 75 NV 26.
Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks,
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Hey Steve, where is the review of Thunder located on?
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen reader
Yeah, and what about the tutorial
Oh yeah, um, I just remembered that you have to complete that one anyway
before you can complete the one in Trithic. Heheh. My mistake. Anyway, my
advice is to use blessings if you need to, and perhaps powers if you have
decent levels in, perhaps, elementalism, destruction, or gating. Good luck
Simply look for the Adventures for this Location link when you enter
Trithic. You shall find what you seek. Gwahhaahahahha.
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From: Yvonne Alaniz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:11 AM
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Hmm. Sorry I haven't posted much in these past few, but I've been busy. I
think the only way to really go about this is by doing what fs has done with
pocket pc. Instead of creating something which is completely blind friendly,
Freedom Scientific has introduced the pac mate which, while limited
Has anyone gotten the hale blade to fight the 7 knight statues?
a few years ago I vaguely remember getting the hale blade, or some other
powerful weapon and the 7 knight die with 1 or 2 strokes. Yeh, even the
knight whose emblem is a Griffin!
But soon the GM changed the game and I couldn't
Hi Shaun,
I can see many problems with what you suggest. First, a Pro Game company
is highly unlikely to turn over pieces of their game source code to an
amature blind developer. There are licensing and security issues
involved. Second, most if not all of the blind devs are hardly up to the
why not just fool them in thinking you are unarmed, then just before you hit
the combat button, arm yourself.
works all the time, but don't for to unequip your weapon after you have
killed 1.
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hey! that would be the perfect law if everyone would put it into all their
licenses!
Josh
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Forcing accessibility
Hi
hi,
i told my friend the url to hattrick, also telling him that i think it's
soccer. but, turns out that he loves american football.
so, are there any online american football games that he would like?
regards
aaron
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Hi Dark,
Well, obviously some games are going to be harder to translate in to
audio than others.
I think bomberman would be possible, and you could be over complicating
it some. I haven't thought it totally through as well as you have, but
having played the original eons ago I think an audio
Hi Josh,
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And if we couldn't pay the fine? then what?
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Well, based on my own knolege of the U.S. court system if you are unable
to pay a fine you would likely be ordered to do some kind of comunity
service job until the fine was paid off. If you refused to do the
comunity
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:23 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Fw: [Blindad] New Accessible games
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Hi Josh,
We could get in to the entire theory why a government must exist, it's
purpose, and so on but I won't. I will simply say without government,
rules, and a court to enforce them what you end up with is total anarchy
and no one to protect the rights of anyone.
Besides as far as copyrights
In response to what Aaron says. But, then the law has to be changed so we
can make accessible versions of games without getting in trouble.
Just like its ok to make books in an accessible format, it should be ok to
reproduce games in a specialised format for the blind.
Josh
then maybe we as the blind people should get involved and make changes to
the laws.
Josh
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:04 AM
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I agree
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:36 PM
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then maybe we as the blind people should get involved and make changes to
the
but wouldn't it look bad putting a blind person in jail? And what would
putting some poor blind person in jail...what good would it do?
Josh
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And how do you propose to do that. As much as I hate to say it we're in the
minority.
Bryan and Jennie
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:42 PM
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Hi Bryan,
Copyright infringement isn't a major crime. So no worries about prison.
However, it could result in paying of fines, comunity service, or
payment of damages.
Most cases of that sourt would likely wind up in civil cort rather than
criminal court.
Bryan Peterson wrote:
Then we'd
Then it won't show up. You have to beat the one in Dor-Droat first.
Bryan and Jennie
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:54 AM
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Simply
This actually appears to be one of those times i was talking about where
different people's ideas compensate for each other, sinse I can certainly
think of a way to wrender original Marrio bross in audio, whereas Bomberman
does have me stumped (we philosophers are very good at over complicating
You never know what a company will do these days.
Bryan and Jennie
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:57 PM
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but wouldn't it look bad putting a
The weapon with the three jewels and rusty longsword is going to be great
once it's implimented, but as of now it hasn't been. You can get one of the
three jewels, and that's it. The Hail Blade is a great weapon though, and
can be purchased after winning the tournament of arms.
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Oh how irrirrirrirrirrirratating to get that rarrarrarrong.
tha'tha'tha'that's all folks!
Seriously, any comments on the idea would be more than welcome.
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I no, but its too long that adventure.
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I believe that could be considered a cheat.
Hi list,
I just rejoined under a new Email, I have been here before. As such, I
haven't read this full thread, but what I have sounds promising. I can't
say if any of the ideas being bounced around would work for me unless I
actually heard an audio file of how it would work, or did it myself,
Many thanks Simon, you're advice makes the 7 knights quest one to look
forward to. it works!
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I tend to agree with you on that one. It works all right in Gralgarak's
Tomb, but chances are you'll still end up dying a fair few times in that
one.
Bryan and Jennie
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Supposedly there are actually two of those gems in the game, but nobody's
found the second. As for the Hale Blade, I discovered today that the price
has gone up from 5000 to 7500. I have a new character named Charisma and she
just purchased it. Actually right now I'm having issue with Gralgarak
the only two that I know of are thunder and NVDA.
jOSH
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From: Sky Taylor Mundell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Freeware scren readers
Hey Steve, what other freeware
Games we'd like to play.
Invasion of the Scren Readers.
The planet Earth is invaded by a race of small impish creatures who's sole
purpose in life is to sit on the shoulders of blind people and tell them
what is in front of them.
Unfortunately the Scren have a lisp and can not pronounce all the
That was not bad. Is this your next project after Sarah is turned loose on
the public for a price?
Razz! Razz! Razz!? I can't wait to see it marketted and selling. I want to
explore the castle!
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well steave, that is true, but the Rnib, which has by far the most resources
etc is stil wary of offending publishers by going directly against their
wishes.
the dark tower is a case in point, sinse at present the audio versions which
Thom has mentioned aren't published in the Uk, but the
Hi Bryan,
As we recently discussed on the private USA Games testing list making
games configurable is good, but sometimes too much configuration is too
much for a developer or company.
For example, it would be wonderful if accessibility could be switched on
or off, but everytime a company
Hi Josh,
Well, if we would want to do that the blind would have to organize some
kind of nationally recognized advocate group, contact the U.S. Congress,
and contact many professional game companies, etc...
Not only that the group would have to raise money, higher lawyers, and
generally get the
Oh duh! I must have done that once or twice and not even noticed it.
Thanks lots.
Tom
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:15 AM
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Hi Josh,
I figure in 99 out of 100 cases the blind dev wouldn't do any jail time.
The most that would ever happen is he or she would be fined, and given a
court order to sease and desist.
Assuming the blind dev did go to jail, and assuming the general public
ever found out about it, it could
Hi,
Yes, sadly the free alternatives NVDA and Thunder are hardly more than
advanced versions of Windows narrater. It is also true that making a
commercial grade screen reader is a really really tough thing to do.
At the moment my unstable thing I call a screen reader isn't much to
speak of yet.
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