Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic of InteractiveFiction
Hi Charles, I think the primary issue here are there are two basic philosophies here about computer tech. there are those with the mantra if it ain't broke don't fix it and those who say it is broke so fix it. Obviously those opinions are completely opposed to each other and as such things go are both right and wrong at the same time. It is hard to fault anyone for sticking with what works. After all if it suits there needs why push them to upgrade to something else? The reason people are so eager to upgrade is because they realize there are problems with the old tech that either don't matter or of no concern to those who do not choose to upgrade. Just for example we could talk about XP. It was a great OS for its time, but now that it is not getting regular security updates it could fall victim to hackers, viruses, and other forms of malware simply for not receiving regular servicing. A more security conscious computer user would switch to Windows 7 or Windows 8 which is currently getting servicing from Microsoft and that have tighter security built-in. Someone who is not concerned about security will stay with XP out of personal convenience, familiarity with the OS,or just personal preference. Someone like myself on the other hand tries to get the best out of both worlds. Thanks to virtual machines I really can have both and not worry too much about being left behind. All of my computers are either running Windows 7 or Linux, but I also have virtual machines configured for XP to play older games too. Given that I do take security seriously my XP virtual machines are used only for games and older apps, but are never connected to the internet making them as secure as they can be. If I want to use the internet I'll use Linux or Windows 7 with all security patches and updates installed. That way I am getting adequate protection from hackers, viruses, and other malware while still enjoying my older software that isn't being updated. In short, the reason you are getting a but every time you tell someone you want to stick with what works is that the more technically savvy people realize there could be issues with the old tech you may or may have not considered. Like everything in life there are two sides to the situation, and it all depends on how much of an issue those issues are that makes one choose to upgrade or stick with what they have. On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When it comes to throwaway hardware and software due to the age of the so-called antiquated hardware or software, I am one of those who stays with what works. It really bothers me when people say, I understand your situation, but, . . . They always put that but in there, and then say why I must upgrade. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: a minute to win it
Hi Charles, All of those are good ideas, but I think you guys forgot something important. When Nicol made the suggestion I believe he was looking for a PC game and not one for an iPhone or Android device. Therefore while I've seen a lot of good ideas for input using a phone I haven't seen anything to address Nicol's specific request for a PC game. Cheers! On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: How about tilting the phone back and forth to increase your swing, then tap to release an object to land somewhere specific?. If the target is off to one side, turn the phone until it is centered, then perform the swing to get the distance and tap to release. Or rather than tapping, hold down on the screen to hold the object and raise your finger to release it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] champion Curry-Muncher
Hi all, Can we bring this topic to a close. We had an interesting conversation about name calling, but it is really off topic for the list. Let's get back on topic with gaming. Thanks. On 10/22/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: and then there's the ultimate insult that scots like to bandy around. Toe rag. and I don't mean r.a.g.g as in jazz song. heheh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: a minute to win it
Hi tom. this is true, but to be honest I haven't seen this game show anyway and so it probably wouldn't be on my major priority list even if there were! a direct game of it. I was just interested in the question, wich I believe was asked earlier in this discussion of how you could replicate the sorts of challenges in that, and similar game shows. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File Name winpd.exe File Size 8.2 meg Pizza Delivery Earn tips and promotions delivering delicious pizzas from the Pizza Kitchen. The faster you get the pizza to the customer the bigger the tip. The speed limit is always 35. There are three roads that the police never patrol. However there are also stationary things that will cost you time, such as railroad crossings, speed traps and hospital zones. And there are random events that when they pop up will also cost you time. The layout of the city is, Center runs east to west. East from fifty first avenue to first avenue, then west from first street to fifty first street. North of Center the names are names of trees in alphabetical order from Apple to Willow. South of Center they are names of automobile manufactures in alphabetical order from Buick to Volkswagon. Special key instructions f1 repeat the pizza delivery order f2 speak game time f3 speak the amount of time of the current delivery trip f4 repeat the lay out of the city f5 toggle the vehicle rev sound f6 speak real world time To uninstall Pizza Delivery run the uninpizz.bat file. The winpd.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
this actually sounds like a good game. and providing i don't run the risk of the sound issues i had with the other games, i might give it a try. a big Maybe. On 23/10/2014 10:59, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File Name winpd.exe File Size 8.2 meg Pizza Delivery Earn tips and promotions delivering delicious pizzas from the Pizza Kitchen. The faster you get the pizza to the customer the bigger the tip. The speed limit is always 35. There are three roads that the police never patrol. However there are also stationary things that will cost you time, such as railroad crossings, speed traps and hospital zones. And there are random events that when they pop up will also cost you time. The layout of the city is, Center runs east to west. East from fifty first avenue to first avenue, then west from first street to fifty first street. North of Center the names are names of trees in alphabetical order from Apple to Willow. South of Center they are names of automobile manufactures in alphabetical order from Buick to Volkswagon. Special key instructions f1 repeat the pizza delivery order f2 speak game time f3 speak the amount of time of the current delivery trip f4 repeat the lay out of the city f5 toggle the vehicle rev sound f6 speak real world time To uninstall Pizza Delivery run the uninpizz.bat file. The winpd.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
this does sound pretty good, i’ll give it a go smiley. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic of InteractiveFiction
yes and last night I was getting sick of browser freeze-ups and other stuff on windows8.1 including my fan running like crazy so I got windows7 64bit pro back on here windows8.1 is gone hard drive reformatted and windows7 pro is back and all is working great. better than it did in win8.1. no more freeze-ups and my virtual machines should work good again. On 10/23/2014 4:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles, I think the primary issue here are there are two basic philosophies here about computer tech. there are those with the mantra if it ain't broke don't fix it and those who say it is broke so fix it. Obviously those opinions are completely opposed to each other and as such things go are both right and wrong at the same time. It is hard to fault anyone for sticking with what works. After all if it suits there needs why push them to upgrade to something else? The reason people are so eager to upgrade is because they realize there are problems with the old tech that either don't matter or of no concern to those who do not choose to upgrade. Just for example we could talk about XP. It was a great OS for its time, but now that it is not getting regular security updates it could fall victim to hackers, viruses, and other forms of malware simply for not receiving regular servicing. A more security conscious computer user would switch to Windows 7 or Windows 8 which is currently getting servicing from Microsoft and that have tighter security built-in. Someone who is not concerned about security will stay with XP out of personal convenience, familiarity with the OS,or just personal preference. Someone like myself on the other hand tries to get the best out of both worlds. Thanks to virtual machines I really can have both and not worry too much about being left behind. All of my computers are either running Windows 7 or Linux, but I also have virtual machines configured for XP to play older games too. Given that I do take security seriously my XP virtual machines are used only for games and older apps, but are never connected to the internet making them as secure as they can be. If I want to use the internet I'll use Linux or Windows 7 with all security patches and updates installed. That way I am getting adequate protection from hackers, viruses, and other malware while still enjoying my older software that isn't being updated. In short, the reason you are getting a but every time you tell someone you want to stick with what works is that the more technically savvy people realize there could be issues with the old tech you may or may have not considered. Like everything in life there are two sides to the situation, and it all depends on how much of an issue those issues are that makes one choose to upgrade or stick with what they have. On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When it comes to throwaway hardware and software due to the age of the so-called antiquated hardware or software, I am one of those who stays with what works. It really bothers me when people say, I understand your situation, but, . . . They always put that but in there, and then say why I must upgrade. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
hi i get runtime error 429 active x could not create an object on windows 10 build 9860 also tried running in compatibility mode On 10/23/14, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote: this does sound pretty good, i'll give it a go smiley. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need Help with She Noire
Hi Dark, Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, with the Windows version, when I select an object like the hammer, I'm unable to use it on the chair or anything else. Instead, I get the with prompt, and can only select items like the tongs, saw, etc. Pressing Enter on one of those also gives me the with prompt, and the cycle continues. Basically, there's nothing I can do, the game's effectively over at this point. I don't like to be harsh, but I must admit, I'm glad I won this game, because if I had bought it I'd be demanding my money back right about now. I didn't find any patches for it on Ticon Blu's site, so if there are any I'll probably have to contact them about it. Even so, this is absolutely rediculous! I thought it was bad when, during the first Inquisitor game for Windows, I encountered a number of bugs, the worst of which occured near the end of the game. S P O I L E R S P A C E When you examine the corpse, the game won't continue unless you click the left mouse button, which you didn't have to do anywhere else! (I found out about that one on the AudioGames forum.) It's because of poor testing like this that I'm no longer buying anything from this company. Enough said. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
Hi Austin, May I ask, have you run the setup.exe program in my winkit.zip file? Windows above XP does not ship with the Visual Basic run time libraries, but my winkit.zip will install them. I hope that helps. BFN Jim Why does a round pizza come in a square box? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic of Interactive Fiction
yes tom, my cousin would be probably classed in that higher bracket of living I guess,So are some onter family I know of that seem to loke to chuck things at a moments notice except they can't afford it. At 08:49 p.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, it is true that in a lot of places in the world some people take technology for granted, and new computers, cell phones, and other things are now regarded as throwaway technology. I think one reason for that is because the cost has drastically dropped over the last ten to twenty years. It has made it inexpensive to own and thus easy to throwaway and replace as desired for some people. For example, when I was in college I purchased my first laptop for note taking etc. It cost me $1,800 USD brand new from Best Buy. Nowadays I can walk into any Walmart and pick up a brand new laptop for like $325 if I just want a cheap and affordable laptop. Basically, in the span of about fifteen years the cost has dropped to the point I could buy about five new laptops for the price of one I could have purchased in the late 90's. So much so that it costs as much to replace the hardware in them as it is to by new outright in a lot of cases. That said, it is mainly people with lots of money to spend who are doing that. Blind computer users generally are on fixed incomes so can't just run out and buy a new laptop anytime a new model comes onto the market. It is hard enough to get them to upgrade their software like buying a new Windows version let alone the entire computer system. As someone who has fallen on hard times I understand where they are coming from. If we consider the average blind American on SSI makes about$720 per month it is pretty hard to justify spending $325 on a new laptop every so often just to get a software and hardware upgrade when there are more important things like rent, electric, food, and other things that need to be paid. Let me say that $720 doesn't go far these days, and so it is no wonder blind users are less likely than the mainstream public to join the ranks of those who throw away old technology after it is a few months old. With all that in mind as an audio game developer I need to consider that, and do more to be backward compatible than someone like Microsoft just because I can't depend on my customers to upgrade as often as the general public. So while you have a point that we are living in a throwaway society, too much tech as become throwaway tech, it must be remembered it is only certain segments of the population who do that sort of thing. Cheers! On 10/21/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
Hmm thats the time I got the net to. I got procom, but I didn't get my first pc modem til 1997, it was a pc card one the next one was either usb or serial, though I really didn't muck on dos with the net. At 12:22 a.m. 23/10/2014, you wrote: I got the net when I was 13. in 1995 late 1995 or so. I logged in using a shell account on a remote unix server using links and pine for web and email. I used the program procom plus for dos. On 10/21/2014 6:57 PM, shaun everiss wrote: one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. At 01:49 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic of Interactive Fiction
Well I got mine from a shop but even so win7 is still for me, now if 10 becomes as good as it is, and if its phone accessability is as good then I may use that, especially if it can run programs mad for pcs which it may who knows. it would be good if win 10 was accessable so I could run games on my mobile device for it. At 12:28 a.m. 23/10/2014, you wrote: I buy my laptops refurbished and recertified from newegg.com or blaire technology group. I upgraded this one to windows8.1 but will be going back to windows7 soon because I don't like windows8.1's interface that much and my windows xp virtual machine in vmware player has major issues under windows8.1. On 10/22/2014 3:49 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, it is true that in a lot of places in the world some people take technology for granted, and new computers, cell phones, and other things are now regarded as throwaway technology. I think one reason for that is because the cost has drastically dropped over the last ten to twenty years. It has made it inexpensive to own and thus easy to throwaway and replace as desired for some people. For example, when I was in college I purchased my first laptop for note taking etc. It cost me $1,800 USD brand new from Best Buy. Nowadays I can walk into any Walmart and pick up a brand new laptop for like $325 if I just want a cheap and affordable laptop. Basically, in the span of about fifteen years the cost has dropped to the point I could buy about five new laptops for the price of one I could have purchased in the late 90's. So much so that it costs as much to replace the hardware in them as it is to by new outright in a lot of cases. That said, it is mainly people with lots of money to spend who are doing that. Blind computer users generally are on fixed incomes so can't just run out and buy a new laptop anytime a new model comes onto the market. It is hard enough to get them to upgrade their software like buying a new Windows version let alone the entire computer system. As someone who has fallen on hard times I understand where they are coming from. If we consider the average blind American on SSI makes about$720 per month it is pretty hard to justify spending $325 on a new laptop every so often just to get a software and hardware upgrade when there are more important things like rent, electric, food, and other things that need to be paid. Let me say that $720 doesn't go far these days, and so it is no wonder blind users are less likely than the mainstream public to join the ranks of those who throw away old technology after it is a few months old. With all that in mind as an audio game developer I need to consider that, and do more to be backward compatible than someone like Microsoft just because I can't depend on my customers to upgrade as often as the general public. So while you have a point that we are living in a throwaway society, too much tech as become throwaway tech, it must be remembered it is only certain segments of the population who do that sort of thing. Cheers! On 10/21/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to
[Audyssey] Need Help with kingdom of loathing
Hi, I don't know if my first question came in or not, I didn't see it, so sorry if it double posts. Does anyone know how to combine the hammer handle and the head I am just starting and I can't figure how to do this. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Sharon FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need Help with She Noire
Hi kelly. I got that game, now I forgot what I did, the game is logical, that is everything is in inventory. you have a few things you don't use, hammer with hatchet, and tongs and cutters I think. But to be honest some things had me scratching my head for a while. Where I am stuck is not shin nwa but flarestar, I have managed to get to level2 of training but can't seem to escape the drone. I did manage to get to level3 once but then I couldn't find the keys to free the 2 droids, and start the game propper the turret is a bare to. I took advantage of the sale this month so it was only 50 nz bucks for 3 games, audio speed, flarestar and shin nwa. It would have cost me 30 pluss for each game. And now I have everything bar the inquisitor series which after playing one of them on a friend's system had me so bored I quit half way through those are not for me. At 10:08 a.m. 23/10/2014, you wrote: Hi, I just received a copy of She Noire for Windows, which I won as part of Ticon Blu's recent contest. I've been playing for awhile, and so far the story isn't too bad, but I'm stuck. S P O I L E R S P A C E I've found all five keys in the Torture Chamber, and am now told I need to use something to get them out of the door. Unfortunately, everything I try either doesn't work, or gives me a with prompt, as in use hammer with... Does anyone know how to get past this part? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing question
Hi all, I just started playing kingdom of loathing and I got the hammer and the head, but I can't figure how to combine the 2 to make the hammer. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks, Sharon Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic of Interactive Fiction
Hi Shaun, I wouldn't worry too much about Windows 10 accessibility. Accessibility on Windows has been improving with each release, and the version of Narrator that comes with Windows 8.1 is a huge improvement over that of the version that comes with Windows 7 and earlier. I expect to see Narrator has improved in Windows 10 plus Jaws and NVDA will certainly be available as well. However, as to running PC games on your mobile phone that won't happen unless they are written in one of the .NET languages. The reason has to do with major differences in hardware such as CPU. When a Windows application written in say C++ is compiled it is specifically compiled for a specific processor type such as Intel or AMD. If you happen to have a Windows phone using an Arm processor that program isn't going to run because it is the wrong type of CPU. Unfortunately, all the games written in visual Basic 6 are going to have this specific issue since they are all compiled for the Intel family of processors. Another issue with PC games is they probably accept keyboard input and nothing but keyboard input. Naturally all modern smartphones use touchscreens which is a totally different interface. If there is no space key to fire and arrow key to move the game isn't going to know what to do with your touchscreen requiring a keyboard to be plugged into your phone. It would be better for the games input handling to be rewritten for the phone rather than someone grabbing a game meant for a desktop/laptop and expecting it to work on a Windows smartphone. Bottom line, if you think you can buy a Windows phone and start running all your favorite games on it you got another thing coming. Games can be ported to the phone, but not without a bit of time and work. Cheers! On 10/22/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well I got mine from a shop but even so win7 is still for me, now if 10 becomes as good as it is, and if its phone accessability is as good then I may use that, especially if it can run programs mad for pcs which it may who knows. it would be good if win 10 was accessable so I could run games on my mobile device for it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need Help with She Noire
Hi Kelly. It might not have been the chair, I'm sure it's a combination of objects, maybe all the ones you'd use as tools, the hammer, the tongs, the file etc. Generally if you choose the wrong object you just get a boop, so you can't make a mistake with the puzzle, just try selecting stuff until you finish, that was generally what I did with all of those sorts of puzzles and why I'm afraid I can't recall the solution exactly. Certainly nobody on audiogames.net has said anything about the game being unwinnable on Windows, and I'm sure someone would have done if that had been so, I personally think you haven't got the right combination of objects yet. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need Help with She Noire Hi Dark, Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, with the Windows version, when I select an object like the hammer, I'm unable to use it on the chair or anything else. Instead, I get the with prompt, and can only select items like the tongs, saw, etc. Pressing Enter on one of those also gives me the with prompt, and the cycle continues. Basically, there's nothing I can do, the game's effectively over at this point. I don't like to be harsh, but I must admit, I'm glad I won this game, because if I had bought it I'd be demanding my money back right about now. I didn't find any patches for it on Ticon Blu's site, so if there are any I'll probably have to contact them about it. Even so, this is absolutely rediculous! I thought it was bad when, during the first Inquisitor game for Windows, I encountered a number of bugs, the worst of which occured near the end of the game. S P O I L E R S P A C E When you examine the corpse, the game won't continue unless you click the left mouse button, which you didn't have to do anywhere else! (I found out about that one on the AudioGames forum.) It's because of poor testing like this that I'm no longer buying anything from this company. Enough said. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing question
Hi Sharren. It's been a while if I played bu if I remember rightly there is an option in your inventory called combine and you get two list boxes and a combine button. just select the handle and the head in the two boxes and hit it. hth. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Sharon sunshine_...@inbox.com To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing question Hi all, I just started playing kingdom of loathing and I got the hammer and the head, but I can't figure how to combine the 2 to make the hammer. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks, Sharon Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't provided. I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you can't afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks, you're stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem solved. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction Hi Charles, I think the primary issue here are there are two basic philosophies here about computer tech. there are those with the mantra if it ain't broke don't fix it and those who say it is broke so fix it. Obviously those opinions are completely opposed to each other and as such things go are both right and wrong at the same time. It is hard to fault anyone for sticking with what works. After all if it suits there needs why push them to upgrade to something else? The reason people are so eager to upgrade is because they realize there are problems with the old tech that either don't matter or of no concern to those who do not choose to upgrade. Just for example we could talk about XP. It was a great OS for its time, but now that it is not getting regular security updates it could fall victim to hackers, viruses, and other forms of malware simply for not receiving regular servicing. A more security conscious computer user would switch to Windows 7 or Windows 8 which is currently getting servicing from Microsoft and that have tighter security built-in. Someone who is not concerned about security will stay with XP out of personal convenience, familiarity with the OS,or just personal preference. Someone like myself on the other hand tries to get the best out of both worlds. Thanks to virtual machines I really can have both and not worry too much about being left behind. All of my computers are either running Windows 7 or Linux, but I also have virtual machines configured for XP to play older games too. Given that I do take security seriously my XP virtual machines are used only for games and older apps, but are never connected to the internet making them as secure as they can be. If I want to use the internet I'll use Linux or Windows 7 with all security patches and updates installed. That way I am getting adequate protection from hackers, viruses, and other malware while still enjoying my older software that isn't being updated. In short, the reason you are getting a but every time you tell someone you want to stick with what works is that the more technically savvy people realize there could be issues with the old tech you may or may have not considered. Like everything in life there are two sides to the situation, and it all depends on how much of an issue those issues are that makes one choose to upgrade or stick with what they have. On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When it comes to throwaway hardware and software due to the age of the so-called antiquated hardware or software, I am one of those who stays with what works. It really bothers me when people say, I understand your situation, but, . . . They always put that but in there, and then say why I must upgrade. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction
Can you explain what you mean by provided? I'm slightly confused. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't provided. I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you can't afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks, you're stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem solved. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction Hi Charles, I think the primary issue here are there are two basic philosophies here about computer tech. there are those with the mantra if it ain't broke don't fix it and those who say it is broke so fix it. Obviously those opinions are completely opposed to each other and as such things go are both right and wrong at the same time. It is hard to fault anyone for sticking with what works. After all if it suits there needs why push them to upgrade to something else? The reason people are so eager to upgrade is because they realize there are problems with the old tech that either don't matter or of no concern to those who do not choose to upgrade. Just for example we could talk about XP. It was a great OS for its time, but now that it is not getting regular security updates it could fall victim to hackers, viruses, and other forms of malware simply for not receiving regular servicing. A more security conscious computer user would switch to Windows 7 or Windows 8 which is currently getting servicing from Microsoft and that have tighter security built-in. Someone who is not concerned about security will stay with XP out of personal convenience, familiarity with the OS,or just personal preference. Someone like myself on the other hand tries to get the best out of both worlds. Thanks to virtual machines I really can have both and not worry too much about being left behind. All of my computers are either running Windows 7 or Linux, but I also have virtual machines configured for XP to play older games too. Given that I do take security seriously my XP virtual machines are used only for games and older apps, but are never connected to the internet making them as secure as they can be. If I want to use the internet I'll use Linux or Windows 7 with all security patches and updates installed. That way I am getting adequate protection from hackers, viruses, and other malware while still enjoying my older software that isn't being updated. In short, the reason you are getting a but every time you tell someone you want to stick with what works is that the more technically savvy people realize there could be issues with the old tech you may or may have not considered. Like everything in life there are two sides to the situation, and it all depends on how much of an issue those issues are that makes one choose to upgrade or stick with what they have. On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When it comes to throwaway hardware and software due to the age of the so-called antiquated hardware or software, I am one of those who stays with what works. It really bothers me when people say, I understand your situation, but, . . . They always put that but in there, and then say why I must upgrade. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
[Audyssey] Got It was Need Help with She Noire
Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion. I tried a few combinations, and finally managed to get the game to proceed. I know what you mean about not being able to remember the solution, though the last item I tried was the cutters, so that's one thing. Guess this wasn't a bug after all, but I agree, it could've been handled better, in that it would've been nice if the game had said something like No, try again. At least now I can continue. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Got It was Need Help with She Noire
Hi Kelly. Glad you got it fixed. I must admit while I enjoyed Noire for the atmosphere and mechanics and at least some of the plot, the game was brought down badly for me by inconsistancies both in the writing and the logic of some of the puzzles, requiring you to use items you supposedly didn't have and occasionally just being a bit odd with the puzzles. Plus, the plot has some holes though that is likely a matter to discuss when you've finished the game. Still it was fun and I do hope we see another Noire game in the future, though I'm looking forward to when Ticonblu's sf adventure game flarestar has an Ios version as the description of that one sounded definitely interesting. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction
Made available from Microsoft for those who choose to still use XP. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction Can you explain what you mean by provided? I'm slightly confused. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't provided. I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you can't afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks, you're stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem solved. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction Hi Charles, I think the primary issue here are there are two basic philosophies here about computer tech. there are those with the mantra if it ain't broke don't fix it and those who say it is broke so fix it. Obviously those opinions are completely opposed to each other and as such things go are both right and wrong at the same time. It is hard to fault anyone for sticking with what works. After all if it suits there needs why push them to upgrade to something else? The reason people are so eager to upgrade is because they realize there are problems with the old tech that either don't matter or of no concern to those who do not choose to upgrade. Just for example we could talk about XP. It was a great OS for its time, but now that it is not getting regular security updates it could fall victim to hackers, viruses, and other forms of malware simply for not receiving regular servicing. A more security conscious computer user would switch to Windows 7 or Windows 8 which is currently getting servicing from Microsoft and that have tighter security built-in. Someone who is not concerned about security will stay with XP out of personal convenience, familiarity with the OS,or just personal preference. Someone like myself on the other hand tries to get the best out of both worlds. Thanks to virtual machines I really can have both and not worry too much about being left behind. All of my computers are either running Windows 7 or Linux, but I also have virtual machines configured for XP to play older games too. Given that I do take security seriously my XP virtual machines are used only for games and older apps, but are never connected to the internet making them as secure as they can be. If I want to use the internet I'll use Linux or Windows 7 with all security patches and updates installed. That way I am getting adequate protection from hackers, viruses, and other malware while still enjoying my older software that isn't being updated. In short, the reason you are getting a but every time you tell someone you want to stick with what works is that the more technically savvy people realize there could be issues with the old tech you may or may have not considered. Like everything in life there are two sides to the situation, and it all depends on how much of an issue those issues are that makes one choose to upgrade or stick with what they have. On 10/22/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: When it comes to throwaway hardware and software due to the age of the so-called antiquated hardware or software, I am one of those who stays with what works. It really bothers me when people say, I understand your situation, but, . . . They always put that but in there, and then say why I must upgrade. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Hi Charles, True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really feasible. Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source software such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software for basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative. Cheers! On 10/23/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't provided. I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you can't afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks, you're stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem solved. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing question
Hi, It sounds to me like you did not do the Toot Oreol quest; if this is indeed the case, I'd recommend you put anything else on hold before doing that. The sollutionto your problem involves making meat paste, which comes at a cost of 10 meat. You can then combine the two pieces form the crafting page. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:38 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing question Hi all, I just started playing kingdom of loathing and I got the hammer and the head, but I can't figure how to combine the 2 to make the hammer. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks, Sharon Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
no i have not run this file ill try it now On 10/23/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Austin, May I ask, have you run the setup.exe program in my winkit.zip file? Windows above XP does not ship with the Visual Basic run time libraries, but my winkit.zip will install them. I hope that helps. BFN Jim Why does a round pizza come in a square box? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
hi i tried it now but the installer crashes On 10/24/14, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: no i have not run this file ill try it now On 10/23/14, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Austin, May I ask, have you run the setup.exe program in my winkit.zip file? Windows above XP does not ship with the Visual Basic run time libraries, but my winkit.zip will install them. I hope that helps. BFN Jim Why does a round pizza come in a square box? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
if you are on a low income you can get laptops from newegg and from blaire technology group for between $200 and $300 and they are quite powerful and run windows7. some with windows8.1. but I've found more games run on win7 even today. I tried win8.1 and it froze and made my CPU keep running at 100% even on the desktop with nothing open. so last night I went back to windows7 professional. that's another thing if you want a long long support cycle with windows be sure to get the professional version never buy home versions. On 10/23/2014 5:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles, True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really feasible. Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source software such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software for basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative. Cheers! On 10/23/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't provided. I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you can't afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks, you're stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem solved. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
