Re: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Nicol,
To be honest usenet news ggroups are rapidly becoming a thing of the
past, and are being replaced with mailing lists and forums. Most cable
internet providers like Road Runner, Comcast, etc  don't even offer
usenet news ggroup support. So even if a person wanted to access the
news group they couldn't if their isp doesn't support usenet news any
longer. Those that still do support usanet news have in the last few
years began black listing certain news groups because of software
piracy, porn, and anything else they believe might offend their
customers. While their filters wouldn't effect us so much it is still
the idea the internet providers are helping bring an end to usanet
news simply by interfearing with a person's choice what groups he or
she might want to join regardless if it contains porn or whatever.
As far as subscribing to a news group goes not all e-mail clients have
built in news group support. I know Outlook Express, Microsoft
Outlook, and I think Thunderbird does, but there are many that do not.
As usanet news continues to dwindle so will the clients that support
dwindle. So the fact of the matter is creating a new usanet news group
now is pretty much a lost cause since support for usenet news is
rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
A better alternative to usenet news is a forum similar to what
Audiogames.net uses. That way all messages are archived on the server,
and can be browsed through online through a standard web browser like
Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, whatever. Plus the advantage of
using a forum is that you can use an internet search engine like
Google, Bing, or Yahoo to find messages if the forum is public. There
are lots of advantages of forums, and they are quickly replacing the
usenet news groups and even some mailing lists.
Finally, as far as news groups saving people from having their mail
boxes being cluttered that's true, but news groups can get rather
cluttered with messages if they are very active. So one way or another
weather it is an e-mail list like this one or a news group you still
have the task of sorting through x number of posts one by one. The
only solution for that problem is, as I said above, is a forum. At
least with an online forum you can read posts listed by topic rather
than trying to waid through x number of posts that may or may not be
in any kind of order. How the e-mail or news group posts are aranged
often depends on your mail/news client.
So, in short, to answer your question candedly I definitely don't
think a usanet news group is a good idea. Instead of helping the VI
comunity grow it would do much more harm than good. It would restrict
people access to the usanet news group because of their ISP, their
mail client might not even have news support, and it wouldn't even
solve the problem that you intended it to fix.

HTH


On 8/12/10, Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 Hi all
 I have read in a book about  the existance of usenet newsgroups.
 I myself haven't subscribed to such a newsgroup; I have just read about it.
 Apparently one subscribes to a newsgroup via one's e-mail client, and then
 when one receive newsgroup posts, it is not downloaded  into one's mailbox,
 the posts remains on the server and is frequently deleted by the
 administrator of that newsgroup.
 Apparently one uses one's e-mail client to read posts but the posts stays on
 the server of  that  newsgroup.
 So I have been wondering,  if a usenet newsgroup can be created for the
 blind gaming community?
 Then more people can join the blind gaming community as people will no
 longer have the problem of their mailboxes being cluttered.
 Not every blind gamer subscribes to this list, some may feel that posts from
 the list clutters their inbox.
 So I think the blind gamers community will grow if we can have a usenet
 newsgroup for the blind gamers  community.
 So how do you guys feel about creating a usenet newsgroup for the blind
 gamers community?



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Re: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-13 Thread Kelly Sapergia

Hi Thomas,
  I agree. My ISP stopped providing newsgroups access in June of this year. 
The only way I can read newsgroups now is by going to groups.google.com, but 
I don't really care for this approach.

  Thanks.

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[Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-12 Thread Nicol
Hi all
I have read in a book about  the existance of usenet newsgroups.
I myself haven't subscribed to such a newsgroup; I have just read about it.
Apparently one subscribes to a newsgroup via one's e-mail client, and then
when one receive newsgroup posts, it is not downloaded  into one's mailbox,
the posts remains on the server and is frequently deleted by the
administrator of that newsgroup.
Apparently one uses one's e-mail client to read posts but the posts stays on
the server of  that  newsgroup.
So I have been wondering,  if a usenet newsgroup can be created for the
blind gaming community?
Then more people can join the blind gaming community as people will no
longer have the problem of their mailboxes being cluttered.
Not every blind gamer subscribes to this list, some may feel that posts from
the list clutters their inbox.
So I think the blind gamers community will grow if we can have a usenet
newsgroup for the blind gamers  community.
So how do you guys feel about creating a usenet newsgroup for the blind
gamers community?



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Re: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-12 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm
usernet is old it was round before the net started.
I havn't bothered using it and in deed with the appearance of the 
forum, and email list its really not needed.

news groups were the first forum type thing and are just a message board.
you need to get a news server ie news.ispname.com.
most isps should have news support though a lot don't because news is well old.
so a spanking new isp will probably not have news.
an older isp may or may not depending on if its phased out and you 
probably will have to ask support for it as its not coman.

usually its news.ispname.com or nntp.ispname.com
all the groups are downloaded to your box or the lists are and you brouse.
to be honest though I wouldn't bothere with them.
klango is a glorified news board anyway, and forums should take place 
of news groups email lists to.

At 09:13 a.m. 13/08/2010, you wrote:

Hi all
I have read in a book about  the existance of usenet newsgroups.
I myself haven't subscribed to such a newsgroup; I have just read about it.
Apparently one subscribes to a newsgroup via one's e-mail client, and then
when one receive newsgroup posts, it is not downloaded  into one's mailbox,
the posts remains on the server and is frequently deleted by the
administrator of that newsgroup.
Apparently one uses one's e-mail client to read posts but the posts stays on
the server of  that  newsgroup.
So I have been wondering,  if a usenet newsgroup can be created for the
blind gaming community?
Then more people can join the blind gaming community as people will no
longer have the problem of their mailboxes being cluttered.
Not every blind gamer subscribes to this list, some may feel that posts from
the list clutters their inbox.
So I think the blind gamers community will grow if we can have a usenet
newsgroup for the blind gamers  community.
So how do you guys feel about creating a usenet newsgroup for the blind
gamers community?



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Re: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-12 Thread Charles Rivard
Unless I'm missing something, if you get a notification from a news group 
about a new post being available, it would not cut down on the amount of 
Email you receive.  All this would do is to take more time, going to a link 
before reading what was posted.  If this is the case, I would think it 
better to leave things as they are, eliminating the middle man and getting 
your information directly.


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From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net

To: Blind Gamers Discussion List gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:13 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion



Hi all
I have read in a book about  the existance of usenet newsgroups.
I myself haven't subscribed to such a newsgroup; I have just read about 
it.

Apparently one subscribes to a newsgroup via one's e-mail client, and then
when one receive newsgroup posts, it is not downloaded  into one's 
mailbox,

the posts remains on the server and is frequently deleted by the
administrator of that newsgroup.
Apparently one uses one's e-mail client to read posts but the posts stays 
on

the server of  that  newsgroup.
So I have been wondering,  if a usenet newsgroup can be created for the
blind gaming community?
Then more people can join the blind gaming community as people will no
longer have the problem of their mailboxes being cluttered.
Not every blind gamer subscribes to this list, some may feel that posts 
from

the list clutters their inbox.
So I think the blind gamers community will grow if we can have a usenet
newsgroup for the blind gamers  community.
So how do you guys feel about creating a usenet newsgroup for the blind
gamers community?



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Re: [Audyssey] newsgroup suggestion

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Montowski

Hello there,
If you are on Verizon DSL or high speed internet or Comcast Cable 
internet..you are plum out of luck!
There was a big fuss about 1 year back about child porn on the internet and 
most of it being up in the newsgroups.
instead of deleting the 32-64 newsgroups that were involved...the internet 
providers decided to go nuclear and delete a whole mess of groups ...in the 
area of thousands..sigh...instead of getting rid of the offensive groups.

what groups were left up there were not worth joining.
all the interesting groups had the words alt.binaries in the title.
and there were tons of good stuff to download from those groups.
there are providers that you can pay to belong to...
and these providers supply you with all the newsgroups...over 32,000 of 
them...
but as most folks use torrents to find stuff...I have no idea if folks are 
still uploading stuff to the newsgroups anymore?



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