Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Dark, Well, I have done some thinking about your comments, and I think I have the fairest solution to the problem. How about if we have Che put up a master list of all new and updated games for 2007, and let the blind gaming comunity decide what games to nominate. True the Draconis Games only had very miner changes that is still an upgrade. If other users such as yourself feel they should not be nominated do to lack of changes in game play don't nominate them. If they think the new version of Golf or Baseball require a nomination nominate it What do you think?. Dark wrote: Well it does seem that we have to draw a line, otherwise all the Draconis games, and most of the Vip gameszone games will be up for awards, which imho doesn't make too much sense (especially with something like Esp pinball classic). On the other hand, counting only new releases would exclude Golf and baseball, which have obviously changed a lot in 2007, also, nerely all games released in 2007 have had updates aplenty, with both bug fixes and gameplay additions, so discounting all updates seems slightly odd. Much as I like Stfc (not the least because of my current watching of next gen and impending watching of Ds9), and appreciate lack of bugs in 1.2, I would suggest this as a good cut off point for what is and isn't up for nomination. Feel free to suggest otheres though. Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Dark, Hmmm... Under the terms of eligibility that you set forth a game like STFC 1.2 would not qualify since most of the changes between 1.0 and 1.2 were miner. Though, I see your point about excluding such games. STFC 1.2 is basically just 1.0 with a couple of miner changes. The same goes for the new Monkey Business. Dark wrote: I agree on both counts there tom. Speaking of the master list then, I would personally say all releases of new gameplay should be considdered as viable entrance. that is, all new games, all public betas and any updates to an old game which improves the gameplay, such as Jim's golf and baseball. I would not however count the vista compatible versions of the Draconis and Vip gameszone games as eligeable, sinse, while such updates are very handy and neccessary, they haven't brought any new game playing experiences in 2007 which were not there in 2006. ditto with bug fix versions (though I think all the games which have recieved bug fixes in 2007 also got new gameplay additions so this probably doesn't count as much). What do people think? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Well it does seem that we have to draw a line, otherwise all the Draconis games, and most of the Vip gameszone games will be up for awards, which imho doesn't make too much sense (especially with something like Esp pinball classic). On the other hand, counting only new releases would exclude Golf and baseball, which have obviously changed a lot in 2007, also, nerely all games released in 2007 have had updates aplenty, with both bug fixes and gameplay additions, so discounting all updates seems slightly odd. Much as I like Stfc (not the least because of my current watching of next gen and impending watching of Ds9), and appreciate lack of bugs in 1.2, I would suggest this as a good cut off point for what is and isn't up for nomination. Feel free to suggest otheres though. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Hmmm... Under the terms of eligibility that you set forth a game like STFC 1.2 would not qualify since most of the changes between 1.0 and 1.2 were miner. Though, I see your point about excluding such games. STFC 1.2 is basically just 1.0 with a couple of miner changes. The same goes for the new Monkey Business. Dark wrote: I agree on both counts there tom. Speaking of the master list then, I would personally say all releases of new gameplay should be considdered as viable entrance. that is, all new games, all public betas and any updates to an old game which improves the gameplay, such as Jim's golf and baseball. I would not however count the vista compatible versions of the Draconis and Vip gameszone games as eligeable, sinse, while such updates are very handy and neccessary, they haven't brought any new game playing experiences in 2007 which were not there in 2006. ditto with bug fix versions (though I think all the games which have recieved bug fixes in 2007 also got new gameplay additions so this probably doesn't count as much). What do people think? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 20:30 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Dark, Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07. Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport? Would motorcycle jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport? It's not exactally a racing game. Maybe a fpd First Person Driving. grin Life version 3 and Snakes and Ladders version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game would Simon be? I guess like Bop It only it besides concentration and speed it also requires memory. Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers. BFN Jim Alpha/Beta testing requires masochistic tendencies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hmmm, that's certainly true about the different sized player base, but I wouldn't have commercial games always totally separate from free games in all catagories either. How about best commercial game, best free game, and then generic genre catagories such as action and stratogy and board/card/puzle. I know this isn't an ideal solution, but having free and commercial distinctions in each genre catagory would imho chop things up too much, and also be more work for you to impliment. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial game, and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be voting for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this seems like a must have difference in categories. Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action. Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me. Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number, less than ten total categories would be ideal. Later, Che - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Che. the problem I believe with doing it by genre as Tom said, is that so few games of given genres have been produced, it'd be a forgone conclusion. for example, I think the only sports game produced this year has been the update to Jim's win baseball. I do agree catagories like action and stratogy might be useful, but personally I'd rather use those than commercial vs free, sinse there have been some free games like Sound Rts and topspeed 2 which are amazingly extensive and deep, and one or two commercial games, which I personally have --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 09:09 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Wikipedia is your friend, there's a good artical about the game. I've always called that one peg solitare, sinse in england I think the card solitare games were more traditionally called patience, my Gran certainly always used to refer to them as patience. Again though, try wikipedia for the details. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Charles You could be on to an interesting article idea with that one. Maybe a little about the games history and possible evolution over the years. Ron - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Got one around somewhere? I could send you the solution, off list, if I remember how to do it. Or I could send the solution in as an article for Audyssey, along with a way to maybe make one of the games if I can think of a way to do it using a sheet of braille paper and a Perkins brailler, using pennies and a dime as the game pieces. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 09:09 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
appologies Jim, I forgot about golf v10 when thinking about sport, either way you seem to have a monopoly there as well ;D. My gut reaction would be that only a game simulating real professional motor racing, such as i believe Usa race way will would count as a sport. Afterall, with the exception of super football (which seems based on the Serbuteo table football game), I think all the sport games we have follow the real world rules of their sports fairly accurately, golf and Baseball certainly do. Rr is deffinately set in it's own scifi world and has it's own rules, rather than following any racing standards I think, ditto with Homer, though that would be the world of springfield and the logic of the groning racing association. sorry just my thoughts there. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dark Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07. Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport? Would motorcycle jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport? It's not exactally a racing game. Maybe a fpd First Person Driving. grin Life version 3 and Snakes and Ladders version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game would Simon be? I guess like Bop It only it besides concentration and speed it also requires memory. Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers. BFN Jim Alpha/Beta testing requires masochistic tendencies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 09:09 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Yeah Dark, I agree, I think it's also like the Draughts Checkers thing, we also call it Patience here, and I know the RNIB and the SANCB here sells accessible versions of Solitaire, although I'm still not sure why the RNIB call it something weird like Fox and Geese or something like that. Thanks for the magazine link though, I never knew about this, will look at it. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Che, First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games themselves should be able to give us an idea of what catagories are possible for this year. possabilities. As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer, a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the Homer game and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game could beat a free game in voting. Che wrote: Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial game, and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be voting for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this seems like a must have difference in categories. Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action. Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me. Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number, less than ten total categories would be ideal. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Jim, Well, in my opinion Homer, Golf, Baseball, and Rail Racer are all sports games though coming from different sports. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Dark, Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07. Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport? Would motorcycle jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport? It's not exactally a racing game. Maybe a fpd First Person Driving. grin Life version 3 and Snakes and Ladders version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game would Simon be? I guess like Bop It only it besides concentration and speed it also requires memory. Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
I agree on both counts there tom. Speaking of the master list then, I would personally say all releases of new gameplay should be considdered as viable entrance. that is, all new games, all public betas and any updates to an old game which improves the gameplay, such as Jim's golf and baseball. I would not however count the vista compatible versions of the Draconis and Vip gameszone games as eligeable, sinse, while such updates are very handy and neccessary, they haven't brought any new game playing experiences in 2007 which were not there in 2006. ditto with bug fix versions (though I think all the games which have recieved bug fixes in 2007 also got new gameplay additions so this probably doesn't count as much). What do people think? Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Che, First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games themselves should be able to give us an idea of what catagories are possible for this year. possabilities. As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer, a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the Homer game and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game could beat a free game in voting. Che wrote: --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Dark, Yes, I see your point there. Perhaps a few more sub categories would be in order, maybe something like this: best overall commercial game best overall free game best strategy game best action game best sports game best mud if there are new ones best fps best fantasy game Would this cover it? Each sub category would be broken down into free and commercial as well. Thoughts? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I was wondering, would anyone like to add a Best Amateur Game for games like SDM? Thanks. -Ryan Smith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Che. the problem I believe with doing it by genre as Tom said, is that so few games of given genres have been produced, it'd be a forgone conclusion. for example, I think the only sports game produced this year has been the update to Jim's win baseball. I do agree catagories like action and stratogy might be useful, but personally I'd rather use those than commercial vs free, sinse there have been some free games like Sound Rts and topspeed 2 which are amazingly extensive and deep, and one or two commercial games, which I personally have sometimes felt weren't quite up to standard, though for purposes of these awards I don't think that'll be the case sinse none of the games I'm thinking of were released in 2007. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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actually I like this breakdown. just my 2 cents - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Yes, I see your point there. Perhaps a few more sub categories would be in order, maybe something like this: best overall commercial game best overall free game best strategy game best action game best sports game best mud if there are new ones best fps best fantasy game Would this cover it? Each sub category would be broken down into free and commercial as well. Thoughts? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The only type that doesn't seem covered would be for board/card games. This would include Uno, Blank Block [similar enough to whatever that peg game was called I think] and such. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Yes, I see your point there. Perhaps a few more sub categories would be in order, maybe something like this: best overall commercial game best overall free game best strategy game best action game best sports game best mud if there are new ones best fps best fantasy game Would this cover it? Each sub category would be broken down into free and commercial as well. Thoughts? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
It was called 15 numbers. It was played within a 4 by 4 grid. There are 15 tiles numbered 1 through 15, and a blank space. You had to scramble the tiles up, then slide them around so that the desired number sequence was achieved. Or, there was Hi Q, in which you started with the center hole empty, and you had to remove the peg you jumped over until there was only 1 peg remaining on the board, in the center hole. The one remaining peg was of a different color than all the others, and you had to place it into the correct place at the beginning of the game so that, if you made the right moves, it was the only peg remaining, and it was in the center hole. Both games are fun. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeremy Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year The only type that doesn't seem covered would be for board/card games. This would include Uno, Blank Block [similar enough to whatever that peg game was called I think] and such. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Yes, I see your point there. Perhaps a few more sub categories would be in order, maybe something like this: best overall commercial game best overall free game best strategy game best action game best sports game best mud if there are new ones best fps best fantasy game Would this cover it? Each sub category would be broken down into free and commercial as well. Thoughts? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Charles Hi Q is the one I was thinking about. Never often did that well at it though. Ron - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year It was called 15 numbers. It was played within a 4 by 4 grid. There are 15 tiles numbered 1 through 15, and a blank space. You had to scramble the tiles up, then slide them around so that the desired number sequence was achieved. Or, there was Hi Q, in which you started with the center hole empty, and you had to remove the peg you jumped over until there was only 1 peg remaining on the board, in the center hole. The one remaining peg was of a different color than all the others, and you had to place it into the correct place at the beginning of the game so that, if you made the right moves, it was the only peg remaining, and it was in the center hole. Both games are fun. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Got one around somewhere? I could send you the solution, off list, if I remember how to do it. Or I could send the solution in as an article for Audyssey, along with a way to maybe make one of the games if I can think of a way to do it using a sheet of braille paper and a Perkins brailler, using pennies and a dime as the game pieces. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Charles Hi Q is the one I was thinking about. Never often did that well at it though. Ron - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year It was called 15 numbers. It was played within a 4 by 4 grid. There are 15 tiles numbered 1 through 15, and a blank space. You had to scramble the tiles up, then slide them around so that the desired number sequence was achieved. Or, there was Hi Q, in which you started with the center hole empty, and you had to remove the peg you jumped over until there was only 1 peg remaining on the board, in the center hole. The one remaining peg was of a different color than all the others, and you had to place it into the correct place at the beginning of the game so that, if you made the right moves, it was the only peg remaining, and it was in the center hole. Both games are fun. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That sounds interesting. Hmmm, I have a perkins brailler kicking around here somewhere, heck, even braille paper...I'm so 70s (or was it 80s)? If anyone knows how to put html in my signiture, I'd love to know about it... contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Tourin 64 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM HDD - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Got one around somewhere? I could send you the solution, off list, if I remember how to do it. Or I could send the solution in as an article for Audyssey, along with a way to maybe make one of the games if I can think of a way to do it using a sheet of braille paper and a Perkins brailler, using pennies and a dime as the game pieces. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Charles Hi Q is the one I was thinking about. Never often did that well at it though. Ron - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year It was called 15 numbers. It was played within a 4 by 4 grid. There are 15 tiles numbered 1 through 15, and a blank space. You had to scramble the tiles up, then slide them around so that the desired number sequence was achieved. Or, there was Hi Q, in which you started with the center hole empty, and you had to remove the peg you jumped over until there was only 1 peg remaining on the board, in the center hole. The one remaining peg was of a different color than all the others, and you had to place it into the correct place at the beginning of the game so that, if you made the right moves, it was the only peg remaining, and it was in the center hole. Both games are fun. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: 30/01/2008 9:29 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Charles You could be on to an interesting article idea with that one. Maybe a little about the games history and possible evolution over the years. Ron - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Got one around somewhere? I could send you the solution, off list, if I remember how to do it. Or I could send the solution in as an article for Audyssey, along with a way to maybe make one of the games if I can think of a way to do it using a sheet of braille paper and a Perkins brailler, using pennies and a dime as the game pieces. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial game, and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be voting for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this seems like a must have difference in categories. Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action. Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me. Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number, less than ten total categories would be ideal. Later, Che - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year Hi Che. the problem I believe with doing it by genre as Tom said, is that so few games of given genres have been produced, it'd be a forgone conclusion. for example, I think the only sports game produced this year has been the update to Jim's win baseball. I do agree catagories like action and stratogy might be useful, but personally I'd rather use those than commercial vs free, sinse there have been some free games like Sound Rts and topspeed 2 which are amazingly extensive and deep, and one or two commercial games, which I personally have --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Personally, while I fully agree there are far too few games for best sport Best stratogy etc, I do think we should make a vague nod in the direction of gameplay. even in the matter of free games, there are some which it does not seem fair to compare against each other because the purpose they have been designed for is totally different. take for example sound Rts and boppit ultimate. Both are free, both have online play capability, but their play styles are so wildly different as to be almost incomparable. there will be lots of people (I know a couple), who would only be interested in playing one or the other, and so would only vote for one of them. If the catagories are too wide, I feel all we'll end up with is a bunch of people voting for their particular favourite game or game type and not considdering all the options. I do however take the point about keeping the number of catagories small so as to minimize complications. I'd therefore suggest: Best quick play game, Best extended play game Best puzle/board/card game (there seem to have been so many of these that they would imho need their own catagory), and Best competative game (online competition, score posting etc). Well that's my suggestion for catagories, what do people think? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
