17, 2012 11:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
I aggree.
the fact the keynote gold needed a 386 was the issue I can probably
get a single core unit for cheap.
In fact I know I can get one for nothing.
However I don't have synth hardware.
My plan
Hi Thomas,
That is about the only thing that I do not like about VB6, and that is that a
standard print of text to the screen does not get spoken automatically, not
with my old version of Jaws or NVDA. Actually I have never found a way to do
it that it is spoken automatically. That is why I
Hi Ibrahim,
I still have my Accent SA hardware synthesizer. It was so responsive on a dos
computer. But not as much on my Windows XP with JFW. So I just use Eloquence.
But on my other computer I have a Triple Talk USB synthesizer. And I have an Echo
synthesizer that someone gave me. I
regarding emon games
Hi Ibrahim,
I still have my Accent SA hardware synthesizer. It was so responsive on a
dos computer. But not as much on my Windows XP with JFW. So I just use
Eloquence. But on my other computer I have a Triple Talk USB synthesizer.
And I have an Echo synthesizer
Hmmm.
I am not sure.
I have been able through public and other means to access manuals on
disks, the net and other computers I was able to get access to over the years.
The dos readers were mostly tsr shells that simply ran over the
command prompt but allowed it to run.
The screen itself was
You got some of it right, but it was xp when they started blocking
hardware access. The dos screen readers hooked into the video driver
and only grabbed the text and all graphics had its number assigned to
it like we got now. You had no buffers or video intercept. Just the
screen reader
Hi Thomas,
I'm not sure how the dos screen readers actually worked, but I know that when I
was writing games in Quick Basic 4.5 or PDS7 I could print text on the screen
that the dos screen reader would not automatically speak. Or I could print to
the screen and console and the text would be
Hi Shaun,
Well, it wasn't that the Dectalk etc requires more than one set of
drivers to initialize them, but the drivers were separate from the Dos
screen reader itself. You got a floppy disc with your unit which you
installed to your Dos PC and then to initialize the synth you ran a
batch file
:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi Shaun,
Well, it wasn't that the Dectalk etc requires more than one set of
drivers to initialize them, but the drivers were separate from the Dos
screen reader itself. You got a floppy disc with your unit
what could be a very
small amount depending on how the auction goes on this little gem.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi Ibrahim,
I
for the various components is a consideration.
all the best, Ibrahim.
-Original Message- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi Shaun,
Well, it wasn't that the Dectalk etc requires more than one
on this little gem.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-Original Message- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi Ibrahim,
I still have an old Dectalk Express as well as my original copy of
Jaws
Hi Shaun.
Thanks very much, I'll keep you posted.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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From: shaun everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
I wish you luck man.
I had such a system
: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
ibriham Its been a major project since my old toshiba t1850 died.
Ofcause all the pulsedata readers needed a 386 else they didn't work.
So I decided that I'd just run with stuff on trademe or ebay or something.
Trouble was at least locally I couldn't find
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Hi Shaun,
Well, if you are willing to be flexible its not difficult to rig up a
working Dos system. The easiest way would be to run it as a virtual machine
under VMWare. GW Micro still sells Dectalk external synths
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
ibriham Its been a major project since my old toshiba t1850 died.
Ofcause all the pulsedata readers needed a 386 else they didn't work.
So I decided that I'd just run with stuff
hmmm tom, I know all this but I don't have a floppy drive anymore.
most of the disks I had were dammaged though I have a lot of stuff
round with me that are backed up.
I have my origional keynote disks which as far as I know are ok.
hardware wise I don't have a gold synth and even if I got one
Hello are these games for the pc or eye phone?
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Hi Thomas,
I saw on the Eamon Deluxe Web site that there's a version for Windows
that includes Vista, but is that for a 32 bit version? That's what I
have here on my laptop, though I'm not sure what a DOS box is, and
I'm guessing there isn't one on this system. I emailed Frank a
couple of
Hi jessica.
I'm not sure about 32 bit vista, though i believe there are workarounds to
run older 16 bit applications on the platform.
to explain about dosbox, dosbox is an emulator, that is it essentially sets
up an old dos system on your computer inside your usual operating system.
this
I have a 32 bit vista system. Do these games have sound? Where can I
get them?
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Hi list
I dont know if i missed it but where can i download this from?
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On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:26 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi jessica.
I'm not sure about 32 bit vista, though i believe there are workarounds to
run older 16 bit applications on the platform.
to
Hi Jessica,
Dos Box is a MS Dos emulator for Windows, Mac, and Linux that allows
people to run Dos applications on newer versions of Windows as well as
Mac OS and Linux. The problem with Dos Box is that it is totally
inaccessible unless you happen to own an old hardware synth and a Dos
screen
the full version is in testing.
www.eamonag.org is the site.
At 06:51 p.m. 16/10/2012 -0500, you wrote:
Hi list
I dont know if i missed it but where can i download this from?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:26 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi jessica.
I'm not sure about 32 bit
not that its worth much, but I was talking to morrice slone one of
the managers of humanware group, formally pulse data internation inc
about that vary thing.
Without the synth its useless and they don't make them anymore.
However due to this and the fact that that they have sifted to
windows
Hi tom.
You'd have to discuss that with frank, but bare in mind most of the eamon
games are still written in basic, meaning you'd have to affectively rewrite
every game from scratch and import all the text, and that is a lot! of text
as well as completely rewriting a mechanics system, heck
good point.
I know tom ferguson is helping frank with the blog and recovering old
eamon apple image disks some in bad condition judging from blog posts.
These are converted to quick basic.
It may be better to help frank with the dosbox system, since frank is
sure from descussions with the
hi Tom.
the problem however is that for eamon, you are talking about a huge existing
body of work, all with very specific ways of working. The reason frank is
using basic is simply one of necessity and compatibility with the older
programs.
Call it outdated if you like, but essentially
Hi Tom.
To be honest I disagree on the dosbox issue. Eamon deluxe isn't the only dos
game out there, and dosbox is! what people are using.
the fixes usually involve graphics not text display, thus sapi would be a
workable alternative.
it wouldn't have the cross platform uses that is
Hi Dark,
I suppose so. Technically Dos Box is accessible if you have the right
hardware and software to do it.
For example, someone who still owns an old serial synth like a Dectalk
Express and Jaws for Dos can run both in Dos Box just fine. The
problem is, of course, that most people no longer
what about have nvda handle it.
nvda has a controler library which needs to be put into that version
to make it speak.
then you have a choice of a frontend, ie something uses the dosbox
engine and we have a shell over that.
At 12:00 p.m. 15/10/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Well, here is
well I'd actually like dosbox to run dos programs there are just some
games I like nvda or whatever to read as text as they were used to do.
At 06:24 p.m. 15/10/2012 +0100, you wrote:
hi Tom.
the problem however is that for eamon, you are talking about a huge
existing body of work, all with
well dark it is aparently the output and how output is converted to
text by the dosbox system.
so if the way could be converted to a standard command prompt like in
standard dos with maybe the abilities of a windows console
application with the abilities of say windows command prompt then we
well the game has sighted and blind modes right now.
but yeah an eamon port would be good I guess.
At 02:49 p.m. 15/10/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Dark,
I suppose so. Technically Dos Box is accessible if you have the right
hardware and software to do it.
For example, someone who still owns an
may be not, espeak in any rate is opensource, and it is a dll for nvda
it probably shouldn't take much to just use the dll in that reader,
or even compile it as a command line app and I think it could be that way.
and as I said nvda reads standard dos windows.
probably not well but it does do
Hi list
W
here nay i get this game please?
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On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Shaun,
That's definitely not practical for our needs. For one thing if you
wrap NVDA using the NVDA controller client library then Dos Box will
only
emon games
Where do ya get these from?
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From: Keith
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:12 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi I was playing the stand alone emon games and have a question. When you
are at the main menu, you
list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
You can dowload the 3 stand alone demos at:
http://www.eamonag.org/pages/eamondx.htm
HTH
Keith
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From: Mark Peveto mpev...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 12
] question regarding emon games
Where do ya get these from?
-Original Message-
From: Keith
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:12 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi I was playing the stand alone emon games and have a question. When you
Hi sharren.
Just to clarrify, the full eamon deluxe is a collection of adventures from
the old eamon system on the apple Ii computer released mostly in the 1980's
and 90's, plus some modern adventures written for eamon deluxe.
The advantage of course in the full eamon deluxe which you
Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
You can dowload the 3 stand alone demos at:
http://www.eamonag.org/pages/eamondx.htm
HTH
Keith
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From: Mark Peveto mpev...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October
, are their
only 7 adventures, ending with the one in the house with eddie, charlie
brown, and andy?
Thanks
Keith
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon
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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hey Dark, I became a beta tester a few days ago, and went through the
first 7 adventures pretty quickly. But when I try to start the next group
of adventures, (#2 on the adventure grouping
: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi Kieth.
the classic adventures are organized into packs. some are complete, some
partially complete, and some not (there are over 270 eamon adventures
after all).
Thus far the eamon deluxe beta contains
Well kieth.
Sinse there is! a stand alone version of runcible cargo, ask it on list if
you like, indeed even for the adventures that only exist in the beta I don't
think discussing them on list is a problem sinse frank has a pretty open
beta policy and will very likely send anyone who wants a
Hello there,
How do I find these games?
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From: dark
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games - contains spoiler
Hi kieth,
Remove x from y is how to get stuff from containers, eg, remove
Ooooh
thank ya! I'm gonna do some gaming!
-Original Message-
From: Keith
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
You can dowload the 3 stand alone demos at:
http://www.eamonag.org/pages/eamondx.htm
HTH
Of dark
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi sharren.
Just to clarrify, the full eamon deluxe is a collection of adventures from
the old eamon system on the apple Ii computer released mostly in the 1980's
and 90's
The short answer is no.
the eamon games were originally written in apple basic and frank has
constructed eamon deluxe to use straight out basic which is a 16 bit
application, and thanks to lovely microsoft those no longer work on 64 bit
machines.
this is fine for sighted people sinse
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
You can dowload the 3 stand alone demos at:
http://www.eamonag.org/pages/eamondx.htm
HTH
Keith
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From: Mark Peveto mpev...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday
hmmm I can foreward this thread at frank and see.
However the current eamon will stay as qbasic.
you should probably email him on this but I can send this anyway if you wishl.
At 10:45 p.m. 14/10/2012 -0400, you wrote:
HiDark,
I've had some thoughts about that. I'm not sure what Frank's
.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi kieth.
Hmmm you can do x weapon or i and get stats, and you
Where do ya get these from?
-Original Message-
From: Keith
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi I was playing the stand alone emon games and have a question. When you
are at the main menu, you can view
: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games - contains spoiler
SPOILER
Hi Dark, in the game you mentioned at the end of the last post, I came
across a safe that I can open which contains a letter. But, I have found
that the only way I can get things out of containers (cabinets, safes,
fridges
Hi I was playing the stand alone emon games and have a question. When you
are at the main menu, you can view your selected character and see how much
damage a particular weapon can do. Is this possible to do when in the
actual game, like when you find a new weapon? Or is it pretty much
Hi kieth.
Firstly on weapons. It is true that is a weakness of the system as far as
weapons go, you cannot check their stats during an adventure, though usually
you can get a pretty good idea of their damage by using them. Also in most
adventures descriptions are pretty accurate so
Hi kieth.
Hmmm you can do x weapon or i and get stats, and you can also examine
yourself and your chars I think.
However the demo adventures are now quite old and crappy, all out of date.
the next version is aparently almost done just manuals and a few revisions.
A couple days I got the next
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question regarding emon games
Hi kieth.
Firstly on weapons. It is true that is a weakness of the system as far as
weapons go, you
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