Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
OK Thanks Ishan On 10/3/14, Danielle Antoine singingmywa...@gmail.com wrote: Okay Thomas. But still I say no he should come up ith his own ideas. On 10/3/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: It is still stealing let it go and write your own games. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Not a good idea. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan On 10/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan On 10/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
Hi Ishan, Well, you are out of luck. Taking the name of an existing game regardless if you use its content or not is still not legal. There is something called copyrights and trademarks, something you obviously know nothing about, as a trademark means an author has the rights to any characters, titles, etc that he or she has created. Therefore the author holds any and all rights to those titles. So if you were to create a game using the name of an existing accessible game I'd legally be obligated to ban you from the list. Its not personal, but a matter of legalities here. So stop thinking of steeling other people's titles and go create something of your own. Cheers! On 10/2/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan Don't do this. This is very bad. The names are not yours. If you want to update the games, create new ones with a different name. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
Not a good idea. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan On 10/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
It is still stealing let it go and write your own games. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Not a good idea. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan On 10/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
Okay Thomas. But still I say no he should come up ith his own ideas. On 10/3/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: It is still stealing let it go and write your own games. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Not a good idea. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Thanks sir I want to update these games which are not updated. I want to steal there names not their content Thanks Ishan On 10/1/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Oh absolutely and definitively not. This is very very wrong and you could face legal ramifications for doing this. So if you want to stay out of jail or take a huge bite out of your back pocket, avoid doing this at all cost. On 10/2/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org
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Hi, Let me put here my two cents as I get tired of near-to-nonsense content by some people. On one hand we have here a possibility of a litteral translation of a metaphor. To steal, in some languages, can be used as a metaphor for to take, just to make the meaning stronger, so if we assume that Ishan, for whom I don't know what his mother tongue is, wanted to express himself with a metaphor like that, then the question is nonsense because, if you take something from someone, change something here and there, that's anyway not your product, and therefore there is no metaphor in your word! If he really thaught to steal a product because of his lack of ideas, money, etc, trying before that to get sympathies of developers by making accusations like he did, there is an appropriate proverb in Serbia which, when translated in english says (excuse my strong language here): whatever others talk about, a bich talks about honor. I don't want to offend anyone, the subject of the proverb is only metaphoric! Best, Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
So how old is the child are we talking about? Because I can tell you dude even at 3 I taught my kidd about stealing and after the second time he picked up a pack of gum at the counter and he was made to return it, he got the message. So even that argument is flawed. Stealing is stealing is stealing! On 10/2/14, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me put here my two cents as I get tired of near-to-nonsense content by some people. On one hand we have here a possibility of a litteral translation of a metaphor. To steal, in some languages, can be used as a metaphor for to take, just to make the meaning stronger, so if we assume that Ishan, for whom I don't know what his mother tongue is, wanted to express himself with a metaphor like that, then the question is nonsense because, if you take something from someone, change something here and there, that's anyway not your product, and therefore there is no metaphor in your word! If he really thaught to steal a product because of his lack of ideas, money, etc, trying before that to get sympathies of developers by making accusations like he did, there is an appropriate proverb in Serbia which, when translated in english says (excuse my strong language here): whatever others talk about, a bich talks about honor. I don't want to offend anyone, the subject of the proverb is only metaphoric! Best, Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com
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Plagiarism. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 7:09 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
He could also find himself off this list if he kept it up. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Danielle Antoine Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 5:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Oh absolutely and definitively not. This is very very wrong and you could face legal ramifications for doing this. So if you want to stay out of jail or take a huge bite out of your back pocket, avoid doing this at all cost. On 10/2/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org
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Besides, regardless of whether or not you use someone else's music, sounds and story ideas it's corny at best, not to mention lazy, to take the title of an existing game and use it for your own. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Danielle Antoine Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? So how old is the child are we talking about? Because I can tell you dude even at 3 I taught my kidd about stealing and after the second time he picked up a pack of gum at the counter and he was made to return it, he got the message. So even that argument is flawed. Stealing is stealing is stealing! On 10/2/14, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me put here my two cents as I get tired of near-to-nonsense content by some people. On one hand we have here a possibility of a litteral translation of a metaphor. To steal, in some languages, can be used as a metaphor for to take, just to make the meaning stronger, so if we assume that Ishan, for whom I don't know what his mother tongue is, wanted to express himself with a metaphor like that, then the question is nonsense because, if you take something from someone, change something here and there, that's anyway not your product, and therefore there is no metaphor in your word! If he really thaught to steal a product because of his lack of ideas, money, etc, trying before that to get sympathies of developers by making accusations like he did, there is an appropriate proverb in Serbia which, when translated in english says (excuse my strong language here): whatever others talk about, a bich talks about honor. I don't want to offend anyone, the subject of the proverb is only metaphoric! Best, Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
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That right there is an excellent point. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Milos, That idea occurred to me as well. Ishan is from India, and it occurred to me we might be experiencing a language translation issue. He might have said steel when he meant to say take, to use, or to borrow which would put things in a slightly different context. Still, it is never a good idea to use someone else's game titles etc in your own works. Cheers! On 10/2/14, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me put here my two cents as I get tired of near-to-nonsense content by some people. On one hand we have here a possibility of a litteral translation of a metaphor. To steal, in some languages, can be used as a metaphor for to take, just to make the meaning stronger, so if we assume that Ishan, for whom I don't know what his mother tongue is, wanted to express himself with a metaphor like that, then the question is nonsense because, if you take something from someone, change something here and there, that's anyway not your product, and therefore there is no metaphor in your word! If he really thaught to steal a product because of his lack of ideas, money, etc, trying before that to get sympathies of developers by making accusations like he did, there is an appropriate proverb in Serbia which, when translated in english says (excuse my strong language here): whatever others talk about, a bich talks about honor. I don't want to offend anyone, the subject of the proverb is only metaphoric! Best, Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Danielle, I doubt Ishan would go to jail over it, but he could be sued. Copyright law isn't the same as criminal law, and as far as I know nobody has spent time in jail for illegally using someone else's ideas, game titles, etc. However, as I said someone can end up paying lots of money if they get sued. Cheers! On 10/2/14, Danielle Antoine singingmywa...@gmail.com wrote: Oh absolutely and definitively not. This is very very wrong and you could face legal ramifications for doing this. So if you want to stay out of jail or take a huge bite out of your back pocket, avoid doing this at all cost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, Ishan isn't a child, so to speak, but he sometimes acts like it. I really have to wonder by him asking a question like this what his maturity level is, or if it is a case of using the wrong word for what he meant to say. In either case it was really inappropriate to pose such a question since most people older than three know steeling is wrong. Cheers! On 10/2/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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iNdeed he could, and i don't trust him as far as i could throw him. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? He could also find himself off this list if he kept it up. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Danielle Antoine Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 5:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Oh absolutely and definitively not. This is very very wrong and you could face legal ramifications for doing this. So if you want to stay out of jail or take a huge bite out of your back pocket, avoid doing this at all cost. On 10/2/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes
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NOt to mention committinga criminal offence, that of theft. I don't like thieves in any way shape or form. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Besides, regardless of whether or not you use someone else's music, sounds and story ideas it's corny at best, not to mention lazy, to take the title of an existing game and use it for your own. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Danielle Antoine Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? So how old is the child are we talking about? Because I can tell you dude even at 3 I taught my kidd about stealing and after the second time he picked up a pack of gum at the counter and he was made to return it, he got the message. So even that argument is flawed. Stealing is stealing is stealing! On 10/2/14, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me put here my two cents as I get tired of near-to-nonsense content by some people. On one hand we have here a possibility of a litteral translation of a metaphor. To steal, in some languages, can be used as a metaphor for to take, just to make the meaning stronger, so if we assume that Ishan, for whom I don't know what his mother tongue is, wanted to express himself with a metaphor like that, then the question is nonsense because, if you take something from someone, change something here and there, that's anyway not your product, and therefore there is no metaphor in your word! If he really thaught to steal a product because of his lack of ideas, money, etc, trying before that to get sympathies of developers by making accusations like he did, there is an appropriate proverb in Serbia which, when translated in english says (excuse my strong language here): whatever others talk about, a bich talks about honor. I don't want to offend anyone, the subject of the proverb is only metaphoric! Best, Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? The very question in the subject line says that the answer is no, unless the one asking is a child who doesn't know better. Should I steal? Obviously not. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? and what is the differenbe between you doing this and you complaining about others cracking software not a bit isham. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] should I steal these titles? Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
[Audyssey] should I steal these titles?
Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ishan, Absolutely not. It is unethical to take someone else's ideas, the name of a game, etc and try and sell it as your own creation. The fact you recognize it as steeling should tell you that it is unethical, and that you don't really have a right to do this legally or ethically. For one thing there is international and national copyright laws that protect a developer's right to his or her ideas and creations. If you create a new game called Super Liam using Liam's sounds, music, game characters, etc you can legally be sued for copyright infringement. The only way around this is to get permission from the copyright holder, and usually that may involve some sort of contract where you pay him/her a certain amount of money to use their trademarks. Copyright law not withstanding there is a question of ethics here too. If a developer be it Liam, Philip, etc creates a game what right do you have to just take their sounds, music, game ideas, etc and rewrite it, and sell it as your own work. That's not the same as walking into a store and steeling something, but it is still theft of someone else's property. Steeling is still steeling and most people consider steeling an unethical practice. On 10/1/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all should I steal these titles I mean name of audio games? If a person specially an audio game programmer should steal these titles or not? like super liam q9 and tarzan junior if a person will programme these games in a new way then should this is acceptable? will customers want to buy it? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
