Hi all,
I have emailed the editor of Spag magazine for players of Interactive
Fiction. I got a reply, but, because of some attachments, which I don't know
how exactly to remove because it would go over the size of messages for the
list, I have forwarded the message to Thomas. Anyway, the point
One other thing for the article which I forgot to mention, the problem that
some text games need you to see graphics to solve them, an example would be
the Quest game about you in a hotel trying to solve a murder. If noone with
more experience has the time twrite the article, I'll be happy to
Spoiler
Space
I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight
is done.
I hoped it would be something like this:
Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a
lesson or 2 boy.
But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes
I'd love to write that article. It would be a great chancee for
me to get published. (grin)
Kelby
Doomed Dragon
You're asking if we have a problem? Well, let's see here--we
have a fully armed regiment of soldiers on our tail who have a
strong desire to kill or mame us horribly. Does this
OK then, here's the editor's address. It's Jimmy Maher, and the add is
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Ari
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But since when were the Torgons noted for their compassion? A race like that
probably follows the most threatening one among them because they're all
scared to death of him, and more likely than not he generally doesn't give a
rat's arse about them. I actually liked the way it played out. It
I sort of got the impression that the leader was the brains of the
outfit, - maybe the one who designs all the torgon's bombs and guns and
such, rather than being the biggist and toughest Torgon, - which (as
Bryan said), he obviously isn't.
that old So you've dealt with my troups, now
hi, i'm still here. just a lot going on in my personal life at the minute,
so the gamers list isn't a priority for now. i know i can leave it all in
the capable hands of raul and tom! smile. i'll be back posting and
contributing once things have settled down around here.
kevin - (lord l)
hi the keygen.exe file is missing from the self destruct package
that's abandon ware. has anyone else noticed this?
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Hi,
No, Peru is not an island. It is a country on the South American
continent. You guys need to brush up on your geography lessons. Smile
nicol wrote:
Thanks, I've learned something!
However, I thought peru is an island.
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Well, My guess is because it's over rated and has been used 143873 times.
Lol. Seriously though. I agree with you in that aspect.
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:16 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] the intro
I dunno. I thought it was creative. I guess mainly cause I did the leader
voice.
shrugs.
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Hi all,
The geography questions are off topic for the list. Could you please
take the questions off the list.?
Thanks.
nicol wrote:
Then the Caribbean islands and mexico should also be in south America,
right?
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Hi list,
I was doing some reminiscing today and thought about those 2 games
mentioned in the subject line. I remember installing Panzers from the
floppy disc. smile
I was introduced to the world of audio gaming via my Kurzweil 1000 disc.
For those who don't know, Kurzweil 1000 has an extras
HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow
and then I stream video games the audio only
at http://listen.liamerven.com
you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can
visit the page and click on the listen link
right now I'm
Lol I was there, and I emailed him about it he said it was play station 2, and
then he played
another one but I disconnected to find a messenger for linux. But that's not
the point...
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:11:55 +0100, Claudio wrote:
Hello Liam!
I hear now your show.
Can you say to mee
Hello Liam!
I hear now your show.
Can you say to mee what game your play?
I know that it is baseball but ccan you say to mee where i can find it?
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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:50 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Hi Nicol,
Well, I can't answer for Philip, but perhaps the I am
Hi lol, I like when the leader starts, like, sobbing because you defeated him.
God that's an interesting
twist.
Maybe he was tired of that I am da big bad boss kind of thing, as you say,
because
Philip put that in Dark Destroyer, so maybe he wanted a change.
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:50:13
Hi Nicol,
Well, I can't answer for Philip, but perhaps the I am the big bad boss
speech is way over used in games. I've seen it in Tomb Raider, Star
Wars, etc and it is so common you can almost figure out what the boss is
going to say.
Having the leader asleep and unaware of what is going on is
Hi:
Do any of you know the status of BPC Programs and their game treasure hunt?
I recently purchased a new computer and as I can not seem to use my old
license I was hoping to purchase a new one; however, the links to download
the game do not seem to work.
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Liz
Lol, I was wondering how you did that voice liam, since that leader voice in tj
sounds
nothing like your actual voice. Which is awesome but, I was just curious how
you did that.
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:38:43 +0200, nicol wrote:
Hay, don't feel bad mate.
You did a great job.
I was just
Hi all,
For example, on facebook, there are many brain tests where you have to solve
puzzles and choose from options, you only have a little time to finish
these. Does anyone know of more accessible games and puzzles that can be
played online that also have time limits, like maybe some clever
Hi William,
Actually, it isn't missing from the package. There is an error that
installs the file to
c:\program files
rather than in the Self-Destruct directory.
william lomas wrote:
hi the keygen.exe file is missing from the self destruct package
that's abandon ware. has anyone else
give us an accessible game with sound effects for that Thomas, lol!
Seriously, there's this really cool sighted board game, where, I can't
remember what it was called, but what happened was the pieces were planes,
and you threw dice and moved on a map, trying to answer questions about
capitals
Hi all,
This is quite a weird question or thought, I just would please like some
feedback and funny stories if anyone has experience of this. I was trying to
play running in an olympics computer game with my friend, now, how you run
is you press the left and then the right arrow one after the
Hi,
Not only that, but it is sort of funny in a weird way. In games like
Shades of Doom you have this long drawn out battle with the boss/bosses
and then they all die. In games like Dark Destroyer there is a cool and
satisfying
victory over your enemy.
TJ is different. The leader is like super
Hello gamers,
Earlier today I received an email from someone who worked for Utopia
Technologies, the developers of a game called Montezuma's Return for the
PC, and he was asking several pointed questions about conflicts of
interest, copyrights, and that sort of thing. USA Games is currently
really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil
people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find
anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not
great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find
Well whilst I do agree with that to a point, on the other hand, copywrite is
copywrite. You never know, this may even do some good.
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Behalf Of Bryan
Sent: 09 February 2008 23:28
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of
contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that
the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the
fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like
the
Hi Ari ,
The following URL might be what you are looking for:
www.funtrivia.com/
I don't know which groups of questions are timed though.
rich
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From: ari
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:05 PM
Hi all,
For example, on facebook, there are many brain tests where
Thomas, There are sites saying this company doesn't even exist anymore, so
how can they trademark the game like that? If they're not even existing, my
guess is could this just be sour grapes and an excuse to try and get
something by threatening? If they don't even exist anymore, how can they
It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I
personally agree with trying to avoid opyright infringement where possible i
also know that it's nearly impossible for devs to make a game for the blind
without stepping on at least one person's shoes. But there's still that
But the copywrite still exists even if the company doesn't.
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Sent: 09 February 2008 23:28
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Thomas, There are
Hmm. Maybe another name change rather than a game modification?
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Sent: Saturday, February
Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic?
I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way.
If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically
like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is
Hi,
Well yes like I say you never know this may even do our lot some favours in
the long run. It's certainly got someone elses attention which doesn't
actually have to be a bad thing. On the outset it looks bad but it doesn't
actually have to be.
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Hi Ari,
For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about
suing me. At this point all he has done is ask me a lot of questions
about conflicts of interests, how I obtained the copyrights to
Montezuma's Return, how similar my game is to the Utopia title, etc. I
am hoping
Hi Bryan and all,
Unfortunately, big corperations and even some smaller corperations don't
see it exactly the same way. If it wasn't for laws like Section 508
software accessibility would still be worse than it is today. Do to
Section 508 a lot more companies are considering accessibility more
That depends at least partially on the other guy though, how willing he is
to listen and work with Thomas to find an easy solution.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Sent:
Games we'd like to play.
Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive.
Home of
Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma.
In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring
treasure hunter,
willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret
treasures of Emperor
Hi,
I can assure you in one form or another the game will be completed. It
is just a question of how the final product will be, and under what name
it will be sold under.
Instead of bouncing and rolling skulls maybe I can use sword wielding
skelitons. Perhaps I can add this or that to the game
I agree with ya, this is crazy. What similarities are in the two games?
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:27:36 -0700, Bryan wrote:
It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I
personally agree with trying to avoid opyright infringement where
possible i
also know that it's
Oh my god someone actually did that Someone told me about that coffee thing
but I didn't
believe it. Oh my god, people really are crazy...
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:22:47 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Ari,
For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about
suing me. At
Hi Darren,
Correct. The way the U.S. copyright system is set up copyrights will
remain the property of a company or individual long after they are
discontinued or dead. That is why it is so tricky for an accessible game
developer to just come out with a game like Tomb Raider, Star Wars, etc
Hi Ari,
Yes, it is true that Utopia Technologies no longer is in existance as a
company. However, that doesn't matter according to U.S. copyright law. A
copyright can be held by a company or individual for the life of that
person or company plus an additional amount of years. Either way they
And, for now, time will tell, so let's wait.
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject:
Fortunately, justice was served in that case. The cigar manufacturer
charged the cigar smoker with a case of arson for each of the cigars, and
won far more in damages than the cigar smoker had gotten, plus, he was
arrested and, obviously, found guilty. The problems with our court system
are,
Lol! Good one Phil!
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:46:36 -0500, Phil Vlasak wrote:
Games we'd like to play.
Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive.
Home of
Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma.
In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a
daring
treasure hunter,
willing to
Hi Phil,
Hahahaha. As usual you have good humor.
Phil Vlasak wrote:
Games we'd like to play.
Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive.
Home of
Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma.
In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring
treasure hunter,
willing to risk
heheheheheeh, love it!
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi Phil,
Hahahaha. As usual you have good humor.
Hi Charles,
Could be. Under the circumstances changing the name might be advisable,
but it is too early to say one way or another. I am definitly going to
use a name change as a consession if it comes to that.. Something like
Angela's Quest or something along those lines would be fine. It is
Hi Charles,
Yes, exactly. I said as much at the end of my original post. There is no
reason to go pushing panic buttons yet. I merely want to inform or
advise everyone that I have been officially contacted/notified, and I am
dealing with an unexpected situation.
I also don't want to release
Hi,
True, but I don't really think there is much room for fighting.
Montezuma's Return, the Utopia Technologies version, was released in
1998, and that company is out of business. The game is no longer for
sale, and perhaps that is reason for hope.
At the very least perhaps they will be
I'm sorry to say, But the game that Thomas is making can't really be a copy
right issue, as far, as if he using public domain sounds and the fact he is
not using any graphical parts of the original game. I'm sure all the levels
are not even anywhere near the real game.
Heck the coding of the
No, it's not missing, it's just in the xl studios folder not in the
self-destruct folder, so windows can't find the short cut.
You can search with windows explorer, or use the Find files or folders
command to search for the file keygen.exe.
If you absolutely can't find it, let me know and I
Now, that sure didn't take long to come up with, did it? Dang! It was
quick. Are those lawyers the first bugs in the game? (grin)
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Absolutely practice and atitude are everything.
Take today for example, when I first played the G force track on railracer,
I was absolutely pants at it, even when I'd played it enough times to learn
the obxtacles. Today I totally aced the track, and art ate my dust at the
catch me if you can
Hello tom.
It actually makes me rather angry how petty people can be over copyrights.
copyright laws were afterall created to protect good ideas and concepts, not
to nit pick.
this game is plainly not on sale anymore (a quick google for Montizuma's
return brought up nothing), so this fool is
I would think that if a game was created that has the same name as a game I
have the copyright to, it would be my business as to the newly created
game's content. I would get together with this game's creator and work
something out. Hopefully, this will be the case.
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hi so why was this game even concieved int he first place if it has so
many copyright issues what's the point in even developin it any more
if loads of version exists already
On 9 Feb 2008, at 22:54, Darren Harris wrote:
But the copywrite still exists even if the company doesn't.
Only I think if it used the same character names to which you also had
copywrite, Eg, if this other Montizumas return had a doctor angela
summers. rolling skulls, snakes and other enemies are so generic, that if
they were copywrite, not many games at all would be able to use them even if
Another example. When you think about Mortal Kombat and Raiden. Some other
game had that name in it but they spelt it differently and for a while
copyright was a problem.
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Sent: Saturday,
is there a list where you can put up when you are going to be on or are you
always up or what.
At 08:20 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote:
HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow
and then I stream video games the audio only
at http://listen.liamerven.com
you can
it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list everytime as
that's kind of spammy and ridiculous.
It's something I do randomly. I randomly get bored and play games.
I'll think of something, but right now I'm half asleep and I don't have a
good idea. you could always join the
yeah he always tries to get strength when it comes.
And he is reall arogant.
At 11:14 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote:
Hi,
Not only that, but it is sort of funny in a weird way. In games like
Shades of Doom you have this long drawn out battle with the boss/bosses
and then they all die. In games like
well if you practiced enough and got used to the sounds I suppose it would.
you may want to use a traditional keyboard not the laptop keyboard or a flat
cheap laptop like board.
Mainly because you end up bashing the keys, and laptop boards are not as
durable as normal boards.
I still have
well here I learned in law lectures at tech that you can sue here but the most
you can get is something like 40, I am not sure if its correct now, but you
can sue all you want but you won't get it, there is a limit here you can sue
for.
At 01:22 p.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote:
Hi Ari,
For the
well we just change the name again tom.
If the name clashes and clearly it does, now we know we can just change it
again.
At 12:20 p.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote:
really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil
people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try
Hi Liam,
What's your MSN so I could add it to request stuff and whatnot?
Thanks.
On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Liam Erven wrote:
it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list
everytime as
that's kind of spammy and ridiculous.
It's something I do randomly. I randomly get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is his msn.
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:28:31 -0500, Orin wrote:
Hi Liam,
What's your MSN so I could add it to request stuff and whatnot?
Thanks.
On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Liam Erven wrote:
it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list
everytime as
that's
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