Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Tim]

Well Gigabit did come out with a partial talking bios but that is as 
far as the got was the test output menu. And that is how it's ben for 
the past 25 years with no change in sight for the future.


At 02:31 PM 11/17/2015, you wrote:
Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for 
this is that no software can be loaded at this point, so its 
impossible to have speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if 
the manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that 
individual BIOS and motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic 
could go off-list?


- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally 
stable and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main 
boards are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because 
of the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.

They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Tim]

No, there are many harddrive manufactures that offer ss drives. 
Google will show you a lot them.


At 03:48 PM 11/17/2015, you wrote:

is lenovo the only company that offers ssd drives?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/17/2015 12:56 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll be getting it directly through Lenovo. I'm opting for the 256 GB SSAID.


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Josh K  wrote:

i got a refurbished hp laptop hp elitebook 6930p i upgraded it to 
6gigs of ram and put a solid state hard drive into it and now it 
works great. i had it for two or 3 years now. did you get your 
lenovo from newegg and how big is your solid state drive 128gigs or 250gigs?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 11/16/2015 5:44 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.



On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. 
Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux 
onto it after I

couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that 
I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with 
eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's 
one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The 
model I'll be

getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Tim]

Back in the dos days of x286 and 386 some manufactures stored the 
bios on the harddrive. they did away with that because if you did a 
total format on the drive. Your bios went and your computer would 
lock up. Now they do give control to video card, screen and keyboard. 
you always had access to the harddrive. But if you want to add or 
change some hardware. You still have to do that within the bios. For 
example you can not change the boot order form any os. Now with your 
newer laptops you can't even turn off the boot locker or internal 
hardware finger print stored in the cpu unless you go through the 
bios. And those are the 2 things that make it hard to go from win 8 
back to xp or even win 7. The cpu finger print is what programmers 
use to lock there software to a single computer and that is making 
game piracy very hard to do now.


At 04:15 AM 11/18/2015, you wrote:
I don't know but every bios from dos to windows everything is 
accessable via the internal apps updates are controled inside the os to.




On 18/11/2015 6:58 a.m., englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is 
generally stable and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main 
boards are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because 
of the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.

They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.




On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.



On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. 
Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux 
onto it after I

couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that 
I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with 
eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's 
one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The 
model I'll be

getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari


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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Valiant Galaxy Associates]

Hi.
No, they all do now, from Asus to Acer to Tosheba to Alienware, Dell and 
right on down the line. Lenovo does sometimes offer competitive pricing 
on higher capacity ssds though.



On 11/17/2015 3:48 PM, Josh K wrote:

is lenovo the only company that offers ssd drives?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/17/2015 12:56 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be getting it directly through Lenovo. I'm opting for the 256 GB 
SSAID.



Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Josh K  wrote:

i got a refurbished hp laptop hp elitebook 6930p i upgraded it to 
6gigs of ram and put a solid state hard drive into it and now it 
works great. i had it for two or 3 years now. did you get your 
lenovo from newegg and how big is your solid state drive 128gigs or 
250gigs?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 11/16/2015 5:44 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I 
got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except 
for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted 
for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. 
Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto 
it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I 
got a

rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that 
I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with 
eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one 
generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The 
model I'll be

getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Travis Siegel]

There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your 
operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos 
days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow 
access to the bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even 
save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer. 
Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't 
concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force 
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely 
necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except when I 
build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those 
times) Do a search of google, and I'm certain you'll find programs that 
will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards.  And, 
since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits 
right in with audyssey.


On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is 
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have 
speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the 
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and 
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go 
off-list?


- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable 
and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are 
and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.

They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[john]

This is quite fascinating; I think I'm going to be doing some of those searches in the near future. Thanks for the info. I do think, however, that the distinction between the BIOS itself and programs capable of accessing the BIOS is one that should 
be made.


- Original Message -
From: Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:28:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your
operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos
days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow
access to the bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even
save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer.
Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't
concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely
necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except when I
build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those
times) Do a search of google, and I'm certain you'll find programs that
will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards.  And,
since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits
right in with audyssey.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have
speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go
off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable
and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are
and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

Also, I forgot to add in my last email that, out of the box, the FKeys perform 
functions like raising/lowering brightness, muting sound, volume up/down, etc. 
This was the way it was on my HP laptop that died. On that laptop, I could 
press the function key along with any of the FKeys to not use the media or 
brightness controls. I may leave them as they are for a while on the Lenovo. If 
I set my NVDA key to caps lock, it shouldn't be too hard. I couldn't do this on 
my HP, but it might be possible; I tried to get the FKeys to function normally 
when pressed on their own, but when pressed with function, do their 
media/brightness things. I could either turned off or turn it on. I couldn't 
switch the rolls around.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org> wrote:
> 
> There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your operating 
> system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos days.  I know 
> other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow access to the 
> bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even save/restore your 
> bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer. Admittedly, I no longer 
> use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't concern me as much as it 
> used to, since under linux I can usually force settings via command-line 
> parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely necessary, so I don't really 
> need to access bios these days (except when I build a new machine, but 
> there's usually sighted assistance for those times) Do a search of google, 
> and I'm certain you'll find programs that will help you gain access to bios 
> settings for various motherboards.  And, since overclocking your cpu can help 
> with gaming, I think this topic fits right in with audyssey.
> 
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:
>> 
>> Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is 
>> that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have 
>> speech up and running.
>> The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the 
>> manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and 
>> motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
>> We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go 
>> off-list?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: englishride...@gmail.com
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
>> Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>> 
>> Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
>> I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
>> As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable 
>> and rock solid.
>> I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are 
>> and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
>> Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
>> accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
>> They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
>> On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
>> However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
>> because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
>> know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
>> laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
>> generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
>> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
>> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
>> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
>> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
>> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
>> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>> 
>> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop 

Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Desiree Oudinot]

Agreed. I wonder if there's a master list somewhere of software for 
motherboards that can be accessed in this way?


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On 11/18/2015 2:08 PM, john wrote:
This is quite fascinating; I think I'm going to be doing some of those 
searches in the near future. Thanks for the info. I do think, however, 
that the distinction between the BIOS itself and programs capable of 
accessing the BIOS is one that should be made.


- Original Message -
From: Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:28:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your
operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos
days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow
access to the bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even
save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer.
Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios 
doesn't

concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when 
absolutely
necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except 
when I

build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those
times) Do a search of google, and I'm certain you'll find programs that
will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards.  
And,

since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits
right in with audyssey.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for 
this is

that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have
speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual 
BIOS and

motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic 
could go

off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally 
stable

and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards 
are

and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, 
etc.

However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for 
one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for 
six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. 
Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it 
after I

couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm 
getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight 
gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one 
generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model 
I'll be

getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

Wow! I don't plan to overclock my processor. I'd be afraid that I'd mess 
something up or fry something. By the way, if other people want to buy this 
laptop, the Lenovo ThinkPad T450S, be aware that the left Control key is second 
in from the left on the bottom row of keys.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org> wrote:
> 
> There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your operating 
> system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos days.  I know 
> other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow access to the 
> bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even save/restore your 
> bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer. Admittedly, I no longer 
> use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't concern me as much as it 
> used to, since under linux I can usually force settings via command-line 
> parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely necessary, so I don't really 
> need to access bios these days (except when I build a new machine, but 
> there's usually sighted assistance for those times) Do a search of google, 
> and I'm certain you'll find programs that will help you gain access to bios 
> settings for various motherboards.  And, since overclocking your cpu can help 
> with gaming, I think this topic fits right in with audyssey.
> 
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:
>> 
>> Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is 
>> that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have 
>> speech up and running.
>> The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the 
>> manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and 
>> motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
>> We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go 
>> off-list?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: englishride...@gmail.com
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
>> Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>> 
>> Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
>> I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
>> As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable 
>> and rock solid.
>> I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are 
>> and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
>> Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
>> accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
>> They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
>> On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
>> However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
>> because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
>> know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
>> laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
>> generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
>> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
>> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
>> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
>> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
>> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
>> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>> 
>> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
>> soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
>> RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
>> behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
>> getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[john]

I would imagine overclocking would be especially risky if you're using these programs - a traditional test of the stability of an overclocked processor is whether it manages to boot the OS without hanging or otherwise throwing a fit. This is less 
likely nowadays because CPUS are designed to avoid this kind of hanging, but I'd still take it slow (or perhaps I should say will be taking it slow - this promises lots of potential experiments).


- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:42:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Wow! I don't plan to overclock my processor. I'd be afraid that I'd mess something up or fry something. By the way, if other people want to buy this laptop, the Lenovo ThinkPad T450S, be aware that the left Control key is second in from the left on 
the bottom row of keys.



Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org> wrote:

There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow access to the bios settings after the 
machine is booted.  You can even save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer. Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force 
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except when I build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those times) Do a search of google, 
and I'm certain you'll find programs that will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards.  And, since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits right in with audyssey.


On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is 
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have speech 
up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the 
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and 
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go 
off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable and 
rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are and 
I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Shaun Everiss]

Well what do toshiba do to make their bios work.
Its part of the os and is accessable normally.
It can be made accessable obviously both interfaces are both the same as 
far as I know.




On 18/11/2015 8:31 a.m., john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this
is that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to
have speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS
and motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could
go off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally
stable and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards
are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of
the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically
the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it
after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one
generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model
I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[john]

This message is wrong in so many ways, but we'll just take the simplest, 
because as I said this topic is getting rather off the subject of gaming.
"part of the os". No, no, no. BIOS is *not* part of the OS, because it is 
impossible to have an OS running when you're in BIOS. BIOS runs *before* the 
OS is even detected.
I suspect you're talking about a configuration utility of some sort, but if 
so, you need to be vastly more clear about this, because right now all 
you're doing is spreading misinformation.

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Well what do toshiba do to make their bios work.
Its part of the os and is accessable normally.
It can be made accessable obviously both interfaces are both the same as
far as I know.



On 18/11/2015 8:31 a.m., john wrote:
> Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this
> is that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to
> have speech up and running.
> The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
> manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS
> and motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
> We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could
> go off-list?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: englishride...@gmail.com
> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
> Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>
> Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
> I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
> As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally
> stable and rock solid.
> I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards
> are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
> Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of
> the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
> They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
> On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, 
> etc.
> However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.
>
>
>
> On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
> because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
> know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
> laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
> generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.
>
>
> On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically
> the
> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it
> after I
> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>
> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm 
> getting
> soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs 
> of
> RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one
> generation
> behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model
> I'll be
> getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.
>
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Shaun Everiss]

I don't know but every bios from dos to windows everything is accessable 
via the internal apps updates are controled inside the os to.




On 18/11/2015 6:58 a.m., englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable and 
rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are and 
I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.




On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.



On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari


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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Shaun Everiss]

You are right, toshiba has a configuration utility in windows and 
earlier in dos that can access the bios.

You still have to reboot the saystem ofcause but even so.
That may be the way to do it.



On 18/11/2015 10:24 p.m., john wrote:

This message is wrong in so many ways, but we'll just take the simplest,
because as I said this topic is getting rather off the subject of gaming.
"part of the os". No, no, no. BIOS is *not* part of the OS, because it is
impossible to have an OS running when you're in BIOS. BIOS runs *before* the
OS is even detected.
I suspect you're talking about a configuration utility of some sort, but if
so, you need to be vastly more clear about this, because right now all
you're doing is spreading misinformation.

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:11
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Well what do toshiba do to make their bios work.
Its part of the os and is accessable normally.
It can be made accessable obviously both interfaces are both the same as
far as I know.



On 18/11/2015 8:31 a.m., john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this
is that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to
have speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS
and motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could
go off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally
stable and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards
are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of
the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint,
etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically
the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it
after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm
getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs
of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one
generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model
I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Shaun Everiss]

Hmmm I had no idea that anyone else had done a configeration for their 
boards.
Toshiba's ones work in dos you had to go realmode, in windows 95 there 
were programs in latest windows 7 and 8 they were a control panel.
I'd imagine that they would evolve with the times, not sure if the 
universal app of toshiba's stuff would be accessable but who knows.
I havn't used that many updaters for anything bar my toshiba and or asus 
and both seemed ok though once started things would crawl a lot for a 
while till they were done.
The rest of the stuff I did do required a bit of sight to upload a 
datafile but that was about it.

I havn't used any programs on desktops.
In most of the newer units you only need to go bios to change what the 
function key does and check everything is detected and it usually is, 
and or overclock things.
in the older boxes you could increase shared memmory to the video card, 
turn on ando off bits and bobs set passwords etc.
In most cases especially with modern systems you shouldn't need to 
bother about this though I must admit I'd like to fiddle one day.




On 19/11/2015 8:18 a.m., Desiree Oudinot wrote:

Agreed. I wonder if there's a master list somewhere of software for
motherboards that can be accessed in this way?

How accessible are these programs, generally?

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On 11/18/2015 2:08 PM, john wrote:

This is quite fascinating; I think I'm going to be doing some of those
searches in the near future. Thanks for the info. I do think, however,
that the distinction between the BIOS itself and programs capable of
accessing the BIOS is one that should be made.

- Original Message -
From: Travis Siegel <tsie...@nfbcal.org
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:28:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your
operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos
days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow
access to the bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even
save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer.
Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios
doesn't
concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when
absolutely
necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except
when I
build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those
times) Do a search of google, and I'm certain you'll find programs that
will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards. And,
since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits
right in with audyssey.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for
this is
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have
speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual
BIOS and
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic
could go
off-list?

- Original Message -
From: englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally
stable
and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards
are
and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint,
etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
g

Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

I'll be getting it directly through Lenovo. I'm opting for the 256 GB SSAID.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> i got a refurbished hp laptop hp elitebook 6930p i upgraded it to 6gigs of 
> ram and put a solid state hard drive into it and now it works great. i had it 
> for two or 3 years now. did you get your lenovo from newegg and how big is 
> your solid state drive 128gigs or 250gigs?
> 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
>> On 11/16/2015 5:44 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
>> because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
>> know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
>> laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
>> generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
>>> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
>>> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
>>> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
>>> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
>>> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
>>> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>>> 
>>> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
>>> soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
>>> RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
>>> behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
>>> getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
> I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
> As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable 
> and rock solid.
> I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are 
> and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
> Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
> accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
> They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
> On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
> However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
>> because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
>> know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
>> laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
>> generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
>>> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
>>> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
>>> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
>>> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
>>> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
>>> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>>> 
>>> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
>>> soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
>>> RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
>>> behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
>>> getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Josh K]

is lenovo the only company that offers ssd drives?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/17/2015 12:56 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll be getting it directly through Lenovo. I'm opting for the 256 GB SSAID.


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Josh K  wrote:

i got a refurbished hp laptop hp elitebook 6930p i upgraded it to 6gigs of ram 
and put a solid state hard drive into it and now it works great. i had it for 
two or 3 years now. did you get your lenovo from newegg and how big is your 
solid state drive 128gigs or 250gigs?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 11/16/2015 5:44 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.



On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[john]

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is 
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have speech 
up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the 
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and 
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go 
off-list?

- Original Message -
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To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable and 
rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are and 
I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the 
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Josh K]

i got a refurbished hp laptop hp elitebook 6930p i upgraded it to 6gigs 
of ram and put a solid state hard drive into it and now it works great. 
i had it for two or 3 years now. did you get your lenovo from newegg and 
how big is your solid state drive 128gigs or 250gigs?


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/16/2015 5:44 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:

Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Shaun Everiss]

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally 
stable and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards 
are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of 
the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.

They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:

Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari


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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Thomas Ward]

Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
> them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
> problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
> years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the
> one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
> couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
> rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.
>
> I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting
> soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of
> RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation
> behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
> getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from them 
kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one problem, 
have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six years, and 
The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the one that 
lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I couldn't 
find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a rather nasty 
virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting 
soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of RAM 
and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation behind 
the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be getting 
is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> i got the hp elitebook 6930p laptop.
> 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
>> On 11/14/2015 2:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What exact laptop did you end up getting?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:19 AM, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> i have a laptop and it is very very easy for me to swap hard drives in and 
>>> out if needed. i just needed a sighted person there for the first time to 
>>> show me what pannel to unscrew and i got it from there.
>>> 
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>> 
>>>> On 11/2/2015 1:10 AM, Dallas O'Brien wrote:
>>>> hi, yeah, this is a laptop. so it's going to have to be a pro to do it. if
>>>> it were a desktop, that's simple enough. lol. used to mess around with that
>>>> sort of thing all the time. but in laptops, it's way harder.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 November 2015 at 08:03, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
>>>>> As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you
>>>>> should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables
>>>>> plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find
>>>>> matching ones for the ssd. Once that's done, you should be able to boot
>>>>> your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions
>>>>> are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated
>>>>> part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat it). The part you
>>>>> will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from 
>>>>> the
>>>>> ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or
>>>>> something similar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.S:
>>>>> This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional
>>>>> to do it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple
>>>>> drives).
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
>>>>> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
>>>>> Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering
>>>>> getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can
>>>>> get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put
>>>>> the drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and 
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am
>>>>> very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag
>>>>> and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on
>>>>> this hp elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is
>>>>> unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite
>>>>> audiogames to screen

Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Josh K]

i got the hp elitebook 6930p laptop.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/14/2015 2:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

What exact laptop did you end up getting?


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:19 AM, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

i have a laptop and it is very very easy for me to swap hard drives in and out 
if needed. i just needed a sighted person there for the first time to show me 
what pannel to unscrew and i got it from there.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 11/2/2015 1:10 AM, Dallas O'Brien wrote:
hi, yeah, this is a laptop. so it's going to have to be a pro to do it. if
it were a desktop, that's simple enough. lol. used to mess around with that
sort of thing all the time. but in laptops, it's way harder.




On 2 November 2015 at 08:03, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you
should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables
plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find
matching ones for the ssd. Once that's done, you should be able to boot
your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions
are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated
part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat it). The part you
will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from the
ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or
something similar.

P.S:
This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional
to do it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple
drives).
Good luck.


- Original Message -
From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering
getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can
get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put
the drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and I
don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.


On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am
very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag
and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on
this hp elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is
unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite
audiogames to screen readers to software voice engines load so much
quicker. ms-word loads in less than a half a second. Its almost like I
turned my computer into a partial super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys
if you want your audio games loading super super fast and if you want your
laptop or desktop to feel like a superComputer then I very much recommend
getting an ssd and using the free macrium reflect software along with a USB
to sata cable to clone the old spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your
whole computer and audio games and screen reader will thank you for it!

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Dallas O'Brien]

hi, yeah, this is a laptop. so it's going to have to be a pro to do it. if
it were a desktop, that's simple enough. lol. used to mess around with that
sort of thing all the time. but in laptops, it's way harder.



On 2 November 2015 at 08:03, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
> As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you
> should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables
> plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find
> matching ones for the ssd. Once that's done, you should be able to boot
> your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions
> are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated
> part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat it). The part you
> will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from the
> ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or
> something similar.
>
> P.S:
> This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional
> to do it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple
> drives).
> Good luck.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
> Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>
> Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering
> getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can
> get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put
> the drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and I
> don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am
> very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag
> and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on
> this hp elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is
> unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite
> audiogames to screen readers to software voice engines load so much
> quicker. ms-word loads in less than a half a second. Its almost like I
> turned my computer into a partial super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys
> if you want your audio games loading super super fast and if you want your
> laptop or desktop to feel like a superComputer then I very much recommend
> getting an ssd and using the free macrium reflect software along with a USB
> to sata cable to clone the old spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your
> whole computer and audio games and screen reader will thank you for it!
>
> Josh
>
> --
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Josh K]

i have a laptop and it is very very easy for me to swap hard drives in 
and out if needed. i just needed a sighted person there for the first 
time to show me what pannel to unscrew and i got it from there.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/2/2015 1:10 AM, Dallas O'Brien wrote:

hi, yeah, this is a laptop. so it's going to have to be a pro to do it. if
it were a desktop, that's simple enough. lol. used to mess around with that
sort of thing all the time. but in laptops, it's way harder.



On 2 November 2015 at 08:03, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:


Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you
should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables
plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find
matching ones for the ssd. Once that's done, you should be able to boot
your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions
are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated
part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat it). The part you
will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from the
ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or
something similar.

P.S:
This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional
to do it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple
drives).
Good luck.


- Original Message -
From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering
getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can
get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put
the drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and I
don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.


On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am
very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag
and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on
this hp elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is
unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite
audiogames to screen readers to software voice engines load so much
quicker. ms-word loads in less than a half a second. Its almost like I
turned my computer into a partial super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys
if you want your audio games loading super super fast and if you want your
laptop or desktop to feel like a superComputer then I very much recommend
getting an ssd and using the free macrium reflect software along with a USB
to sata cable to clone the old spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your
whole computer and audio games and screen reader will thank you for it!

Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[englishrider91]

What exact laptop did you end up getting?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:19 AM, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> i have a laptop and it is very very easy for me to swap hard drives in and 
> out if needed. i just needed a sighted person there for the first time to 
> show me what pannel to unscrew and i got it from there.
> 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
>> On 11/2/2015 1:10 AM, Dallas O'Brien wrote:
>> hi, yeah, this is a laptop. so it's going to have to be a pro to do it. if
>> it were a desktop, that's simple enough. lol. used to mess around with that
>> sort of thing all the time. but in laptops, it's way harder.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 November 2015 at 08:03, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
>>> As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you
>>> should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables
>>> plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find
>>> matching ones for the ssd. Once that's done, you should be able to boot
>>> your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions
>>> are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated
>>> part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat it). The part you
>>> will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from the
>>> ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or
>>> something similar.
>>> 
>>> P.S:
>>> This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional
>>> to do it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple
>>> drives).
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in
>>> 
>>> Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering
>>> getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can
>>> get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put
>>> the drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and I
>>> don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am
>>> very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag
>>> and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on
>>> this hp elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is
>>> unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite
>>> audiogames to screen readers to software voice engines load so much
>>> quicker. ms-word loads in less than a half a second. Its almost like I
>>> turned my computer into a partial super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys
>>> if you want your audio games loading super super fast and if you want your
>>> laptop or desktop to feel like a superComputer then I very much recommend
>>> getting an ssd and using the free macrium reflect software along with a USB
>>> to sata cable to clone the old spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your
>>> whole computer and audio games and screen reader will thank you for it!
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> 
>>> --
>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[john]

Cloning can be extremely accessible (google drive image xml).
As far as installation goes, given that you're working with an ssd, you should be able to plug it in yourself. Pay careful attention to the cables plugged into your existing disk, track them back to their source, and find matching ones for the ssd. 
Once that's done, you should be able to boot your machine, clone the existing drive (make sure your current partitions are smaller or of an equal size to the ssd - this is the most complicated part imho) and remove your current hdd (or just reformat 
it). The part you will certainly need sighted help for is getting the system to boot from the ssd once its installed; do a google search for "change boot order" or something similar.


P.S:
This applies to desktops only. If you're on a laptop, get a professional to do 
it for you (especially because laptops don't usually fit multiple drives).
Good luck.

- Original Message -
From: Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:47 +1000
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering getting an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can get expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put the drive in. I don't know my 
way around the insides of this machine, and I don't want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.



On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am very impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag and it would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on this hp elitebook 6930p 
laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is unbelievable! It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite audiogames to screen readers to software voice engines load so much quicker. ms-word loads in less than a half a second. Its almost like 
I turned my computer into a partial super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys if you want your audio games loading super super fast and if you want your laptop or desktop to feel like a superComputer then I very much recommend getting an ssd and using 
the free macrium reflect software along with a USB to sata cable to clone the old spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your whole computer and audio games and screen reader will thank you for it!


Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

[Dallas O'Brien]

Hey, how accessible is the cloning process. I am seriously considering getting 
an SSD for this machine. But to pay someone to do the cloning, can get 
expensive. Let alone, I'm probably going to have to get someone to put the 
drive in. I don't know my way around the insides of this machine, and I don't 
want to blow any fuses or worse, the microchips. LOL.  
 

> On 1 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Josh K  wrote:
> 
> hey i got my new crucial.com 250gig solid state drive installed. I am very 
> impressed. My computer runs much faster now. Sometimes NVDA would lag and it 
> would take awhile for games to load even in windows10 pro 64bit on this hp 
> elitebook 6930p laptop. But now its so snappy and quiet it is unbelievable! 
> It cost $79 from amazon. everything from my favorite audiogames to screen 
> readers to software voice engines load so much quicker. ms-word loads in less 
> than a half a second. Its almost like I turned my computer into a partial 
> super-fast tablet or notetaker! so guys if you want your audio games loading 
> super super fast and if you want your laptop or desktop to feel like a 
> superComputer then I very much recommend getting an ssd and using the free 
> macrium reflect software along with a USB to sata cable to clone the old 
> spinning hard drive to the new ssd. your whole computer and audio games and 
> screen reader will thank you for it!
> 
> Josh
> 
> -- 
> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
> 
> 
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