Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values.

2010-12-31 Thread kai-martin knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: >> ARE there any "current" gEDA developers? >> > > Yes, I think there is lots of patches or patch series in SF > to prove that. For 2010 there were exactly 16 patches in the geda tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=161080&atid=818428 I wouldn't call this "lot

gEDA-user: New year

2010-12-31 Thread Levente Kovacs
Happy new year all! Levente ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread kai-martin knaak
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > uploaded them here (temporarily): > http://ubuntuone.com/p/W5T/ I just receive this message: Could not locate object ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ___

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
On 12/31/2010 03:11 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: the effort to design populate and debug an eurocard full of 74xx is daunting too. It really is. The static electricity damage can drive you nuts. don't want to go back in time... Micros are so cheap and low power I'd only consider an FPGA syst

gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2010-12-31 Thread Oliver King-Smith
I have been having problems with LTSpice simulating some components from TI. I was thinking of looking at TINA-TI spice program. Has anyone tried going from gschem to TINA? Which back end are you using for this? Oliver ___ geda-user ma

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 22:11:09 skrev Stephan Boettcher : "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: Den 2010-12-31 16:31:42 skrev Stephan Boettcher : "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: No. That's the wrong conclusion. Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to create symbols in the first p

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 17:21:45 skrev JohnLM : I actually use "boxy" symbols quite a lot. Well more on paper or with software that has them anyway. Well since I (would) use them myself, I'd have no big problem making those. I'd go for whole set of lights and make few most used 74xx heavies. I have be

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-31 Thread Armin Faltl
Stephan Boettcher wrote: kai-martin knaak writes: Bob Paddock wrote: This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles connectivity. If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a sho

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
"Johnny Rosenberg" writes: > Den 2010-12-31 16:31:42 skrev Stephan Boettcher > : > >> "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: >> No. That's the wrong conclusion. >>> >>> Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to >>> create symbols in the first place, so I guess things will

gEDA-user: PCB git HEAD speed

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
I compiled PCB git HEAD and it's bogging my computer down when I edit arcs. Should I go back to some previous tag or is there any switch to throw to change display of arcs cost? I compiled default, so I got GTK HID. If going back is the thing to do, what tag? John ___

gEDA-user: [Pcb PATCH SF ID: 3148827] First issue of the Dutch translation for pcb.

2010-12-31 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi devs and users, Subject says it all. Patches can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3148827&group_id=73743&atid= 538813 Or here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/downloads/pcb-dutch/ Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. ___

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values.

2010-12-31 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Peter Clifton > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 4:37 PM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values. > > On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 13:18 -

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-31 Thread DJ Delorie
John Doty writes: > And there's DJ, I don't consider myself a gEDA developer, just a PCB developer. I think the only significant gEDA work I've done is the PCB import netlister, and that's in PCB's source tree anyway. ___ geda-user mailing list geda

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
On 12/31/2010 10:36 AM, kai-martin knaak wrote: The source of the geda/pcb manual is just a single document in mediawiki syntax. Oh sure, then that would be something to do with git. hadn't realized Karl was referring to that. John ___ geda-user m

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 16:31:42 skrev Stephan Boettcher : "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: No. That's the wrong conclusion. Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to create symbols in the first place, so I guess things will move very slowly to begin with… Maybe your time is

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-31 Thread John Doty
On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 13:18 -0700, John Doty wrote: > >> Divorce gEDA from pcb. Create a schematic plugin for pcb, since that >> seems to be what pcb users want. The flexibility of the >> gschem/gnetlist flow is unnecessary to hobbyists. The cu

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-31 Thread kai-martin knaak
John Griessen wrote: >> can the mediawiki content be handled like any plain text file? > > That page, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps > suggests The data is SQL, You have to differentiate between the article/wikibook and the wiki as a whole. The content of a wikipedia

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread JohnLM
I actually use "boxy" symbols quite a lot. Well more on paper or with software that has them anyway. Well since I (would) use them myself, I'd have no big problem making those. I'd go for whole set of lights and make few most used 74xx heavies. On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:15:45 +0100 "Johnny Rosenberg

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Philipp Klaus Krause writes: > Am 31.12.2010 16:31, schrieb Stephan Boettcher: >> >> Maybe your time is better invested by using a small FPGA for whatever >> you want to build, and learn Verilog to express the logic. >> >> Depends how much fun can have from learning such stuff. A deadline do

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Am 31.12.2010 16:31, schrieb Stephan Boettcher: > > Maybe your time is better invested by using a small FPGA for whatever > you want to build, and learn Verilog to express the logic. > > Depends how much fun can have from learning such stuff. A deadline does > not seem to be your problem. > >

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 13:18 -0700, John Doty wrote: > Divorce gEDA from pcb. Create a schematic plugin for pcb, since that > seems to be what pcb users want. The flexibility of the > gschem/gnetlist flow is unnecessary to hobbyists. The current > developers are dangerously pcb-centric. ARE there

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
"Johnny Rosenberg" writes: >> No. That's the wrong conclusion. >> > > Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to > create symbols in the first place, so I guess things will move very > slowly to begin with… Maybe your time is better invested by using a small FPGA for wha

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
On 12/31/2010 08:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I guess I could use whatever Why, certainly! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 15:40:39 skrev John Griessen : On 12/31/2010 08:02 AM, Stephen Trier wrote: I was wondering whether there would be a demand for this style of logic symbol in gschem. Most logic designers now use verilog blocks for such logic and never even make a diagram with visual cue

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
On 12/31/2010 08:02 AM, Stephen Trier wrote: I was wondering whether there would be a demand for this style of logic symbol in gschem. Most logic designers now use verilog blocks for such logic and never even make a diagram with visual cues like IEEE symbols have. Since much low level

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-31 Thread John Griessen
On 12/31/2010 05:30 AM, Karl Hammar wrote: can the mediawiki content be handled like any plain text file? That page, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps suggests The data is SQL, so you need a database connected with a local install of mediawiki to use it. If you created

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 15:03:13 skrev Stephan Boettcher : "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: Well, I guess that I need to make my own symbols then, Yes. Will that be generic, light logic symbols, or 74xx series symbols? I don't know, maybe 74xx series, but I don't think I will just sit down and try

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
"Johnny Rosenberg" writes: > Well, I guess that I need to make my own symbols then, Yes. Will that be generic, light logic symbols, or 74xx series symbols? > and that it's no point sharing them since I am the only one who use > them. No. That's the wrong conclusion. -- Stephan _

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephen Trier
2010/12/31 Stefan Salewski <[1]m...@ssalewski.de> But the main advantage of that shape may be, that complicated devices like [2]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/74LS192_ Symbol.png/220px-74LS192_Symbol.png as used in some (german) VHDL/FPGA

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb/lesstif] allow zoom out and pan more than board size

2010-12-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 13:13 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 31.12.2010 um 07:10 schrieb DJ Delorie: > > > here's a patch that lets you zoom out > > more than the pcb size! Also lets you pan the board anywhere, not > > just to the edge of the window (i.e. you can position the edge of the > > boar

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 14:10 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > > > >__ > > | | > > | |\ > > | & |-––– > > | | > > |__| > > > > > > I've seen those too, but they are not the same as those I learned at > school and have used all my lif

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 13:20:07 skrev Stephan Boettcher : "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: Den 2010-12-31 02:58:36 skrev Stephan Boettcher : kai-martin knaak writes: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: __ | | | & |o––– |__| Ah, those box shaped symbols. Well, I don't li

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-31 Thread kai-martin knaak
Karl Hammar wrote: > In git there is gaf/docs/wiki/, Note, that this is dokuwiki http://dokuwiki.org This flavor of wiki software is more geared toward small scale documentation than mediawiki. (no dedicated data base, less user hierarchy, ...). Mediawiki is of course capable to drive t

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak writes: > Bob Paddock wrote: > >>> This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect >>> to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles >>> connectivity. >> >> If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a short >> between nets. > > Of

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
"Johnny Rosenberg" writes: > Den 2010-12-31 02:58:36 skrev Stephan Boettcher > : > >> kai-martin knaak writes: >> >>> Johnny Rosenberg wrote: >>> __ | | | & |o––– |__| >>> >>> Ah, those box shaped symbols. >>> Well, I don't like them.

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:05:41 +0100 "Johnny Rosenberg" wrote: > So I am the only one that use still them? > > And why did they use a small circle for the NOT function at the > output if the plotters had difficulties plotting them? > > They seems to be used pretty much in my country anyway. I use

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-31 Thread kai-martin knaak
Bob Paddock wrote: >> This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect >> to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles >> connectivity. > > If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a short > between nets. Of course, connectivity needs to be recal

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb/lesstif] allow zoom out and pan more than board size

2010-12-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.12.2010 um 07:10 schrieb DJ Delorie: here's a patch that lets you zoom out more than the pcb size! Also lets you pan the board anywhere, not just to the edge of the window (i.e. you can position the edge of the board in the middle of the window now). Great idea!

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-12-31 02:58:36 skrev Stephan Boettcher : kai-martin knaak writes: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: __ | | | & |o––– |__| Ah, those box shaped symbols. Well, I don't like them. So none of them in my lib... Those were invented by bureaucrats at a ti

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread gurus . knugum
Den 2010-12-31 01:06:11 skrev kai-martin knaak : Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I looked at the gEDA symbols site, but it was very hard to find anything useful in this matter, since there was no ”preview” thing involved as far as I can see. You may point your browser to http://gedasymbols.o

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-31 Thread Karl Hammar
Kai-Martin: > Karl Hammar wrote: > >> Contribution is allowed to literally everyone. Click on the > >> edit button and go ahead. ... > > You have to be online for that. > Install mediawiki from your preferred distro and you can edit and > render your contribution locally without. In addition, media

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Paddock
> This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect > to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles > connectivity. If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a short between nets. Consider a large item like you might solder a RFI shield to, that cove