Re: [Jgeneral] Plot package crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
Hi Ian,
I think that Joey hit on the issue with the QT IDE: 1.7.9s line. The s in
1.7.9s suggests that you are running the slim version of jqt which does not
support OpenGL, Webview or Websockets. You can get the full version of jqt by
running install 'full' from the jconsole. Details at
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds
Hope this helps.
Cheers, bob
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
>
> The offending line is in:
>
> qt_gpapply_jzplot_=: 3 : 0
> *rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.(Poutput=iQTC) buf*
> assert. 0=rc [ 'glcmds buf'
> buf=: $0
> )
>
> It runs a choice of "cd" calls (one of which crashes)…
> glcmds_jgl2_=: chkgl2@:('"*/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*"
> glcmds > i *i i' cd (; #))"1
> glcmds_jglc_=: chkgl2@:('"*/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*"
> glc_cmds > i *i i' cd (; #))"1
>
> */Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*
> …is an alias of:
> /Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.7.9.dylib (dated 22/Sep/18, 22:51)
> …which looks as if it lends the trailing figures of its filename to the Qt
> IDE: line of JVERSION.
>
> I've tried these alternative dylibs from earlier releases in its place:
> /Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.5.3.dylib
> /Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.7.7.dylib
> re-directing to each one in turn all the aliases that point to [1.7.9].
> But no joy: jqt won't even start. [1.7.9] is the only one that works for me.
> But not well enough to support the Plot Package it seems - I don't know
> enough about dylibs to conjecture why.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:57 AM Joey K Tuttle wrote:
>
>> I'm in the AVX version, and there I didn't encounter your problem, the
>> only difference I see is the Qt IDE: line reported in JVERSION
>>
>> I suppose it might have something to do with the Darwin release (on this
>> machine I'm at Version 10.14.1 beta 4...
>>
>> I'll look into trying it on a machine without AVX, running an older OS X
>>
>> load 'plot'
>> plot 0
>> plot 1 2 3 5
>> JVERSION
>> Engine: j807/j64/darwin
>> Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:55:35
>> Library: 8.07.18
>> Qt IDE: 1.7.9/5.9.6
>> Platform: Darwin 64
>> Installer: J807 install
>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>
>>
>>> On 2018Oct 22, at 18:31, Ian Clark wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Launch jqt. (With no startup script, to get an out-of-the-box session.
>>> That's in case there's a clash with something else I was running.)
>>>
>>> 2. Enter:
>>> load'plot'
>>> plot 0
>>> …an empty "plot" window appears (as happens with j805 jqt)
>>>
>>> 3. Enter (…the first effective phrase from the Plot Package lab):
>>> plot 1 2 3 5
>>> …an error message-box appears, with one button: "OK".
>>> It reads:
>>> ———
>>> error in: plot_gs_paint
>>>
>>> domain error: cd
>>> rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.
>>> (Poutput=iQTC)buf
>>> ———
>>>
>>> 4. Press the "OK" button
>>> …the message-box disappears then immediately reappears with the same
>>> message, in an infinite cycle. No other input is accepted by jqt.
>>>
>>> 5. To quit jqt, choose {Apple} > Force Quit…
>>> …(I haven't found any other way to escape.)
>>>
>>> JVERSION
>>> Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
>>> Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
>>> Library: 8.07.19
>>> Qt IDE: 1.7.9s/5.9.6
>>> Platform: Darwin 64
>>> Installer: J807 install
>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>> --
>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
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Re: [Jgeneral] Plot package crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
The offending line is in:
qt_gpapply_jzplot_=: 3 : 0
*rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.(Poutput=iQTC) buf*
assert. 0=rc [ 'glcmds buf'
buf=: $0
)
It runs a choice of "cd" calls (one of which crashes)…
glcmds_jgl2_=: chkgl2@:('"*/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*"
glcmds > i *i i' cd (; #))"1
glcmds_jglc_=: chkgl2@:('"*/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*"
glc_cmds > i *i i' cd (; #))"1
*/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.dylib*
…is an alias of:
/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.7.9.dylib (dated 22/Sep/18, 22:51)
…which looks as if it lends the trailing figures of its filename to the Qt
IDE: line of JVERSION.
I've tried these alternative dylibs from earlier releases in its place:
/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.5.3.dylib
/Applications/j64-807/bin/libjqt.1.7.7.dylib
re-directing to each one in turn all the aliases that point to [1.7.9].
But no joy: jqt won't even start. [1.7.9] is the only one that works for me.
But not well enough to support the Plot Package it seems - I don't know
enough about dylibs to conjecture why.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:57 AM Joey K Tuttle wrote:
> I'm in the AVX version, and there I didn't encounter your problem, the
> only difference I see is the Qt IDE: line reported in JVERSION
>
> I suppose it might have something to do with the Darwin release (on this
> machine I'm at Version 10.14.1 beta 4...
>
> I'll look into trying it on a machine without AVX, running an older OS X
>
>load 'plot'
>plot 0
>plot 1 2 3 5
>JVERSION
> Engine: j807/j64/darwin
> Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:55:35
> Library: 8.07.18
> Qt IDE: 1.7.9/5.9.6
> Platform: Darwin 64
> Installer: J807 install
> InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>
>
> > On 2018Oct 22, at 18:31, Ian Clark wrote:
> >
> > 1. Launch jqt. (With no startup script, to get an out-of-the-box session.
> > That's in case there's a clash with something else I was running.)
> >
> > 2. Enter:
> > load'plot'
> > plot 0
> > …an empty "plot" window appears (as happens with j805 jqt)
> >
> > 3. Enter (…the first effective phrase from the Plot Package lab):
> > plot 1 2 3 5
> > …an error message-box appears, with one button: "OK".
> > It reads:
> > ———
> > error in: plot_gs_paint
> >
> > domain error: cd
> > rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.
> > (Poutput=iQTC)buf
> > ———
> >
> > 4. Press the "OK" button
> > …the message-box disappears then immediately reappears with the same
> > message, in an infinite cycle. No other input is accepted by jqt.
> >
> > 5. To quit jqt, choose {Apple} > Force Quit…
> > …(I haven't found any other way to escape.)
> >
> > JVERSION
> > Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
> > Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
> > Library: 8.07.19
> > Qt IDE: 1.7.9s/5.9.6
> > Platform: Darwin 64
> > Installer: J807 install
> > InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
> > Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> > --
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>
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Re: [Jgeneral] Plot package crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
I have found that j807 on my mac mini running Sierra:
JVERSION
Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
Library: 8.07.19
Qt IDE: 1.7.9/5.9.6
Platform: Darwin 64
Installer: J807 install
some of the plots (using pd not plot) fail when they are fine under j806.
I've not tracked it dowm -- basically, only a few of the lines and points
are plotted. Sorry I don't have time to dig into this, I've just dropped
back to j806 for those programs. But just wanted to add to the report
that plot has problems in 807/j64novac on the mac.
Patrick
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, Ian Clark wrote:
1. Launch jqt. (With no startup script, to get an out-of-the-box session.
That's in case there's a clash with something else I was running.)
2. Enter:
load'plot'
plot 0
…an empty "plot" window appears (as happens with j805 jqt)
3. Enter (…the first effective phrase from the Plot Package lab):
plot 1 2 3 5
…an error message-box appears, with one button: "OK".
It reads:
———
error in: plot_gs_paint
domain error: cd
rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.
(Poutput=iQTC)buf
———
4. Press the "OK" button
…the message-box disappears then immediately reappears with the same
message, in an infinite cycle. No other input is accepted by jqt.
5. To quit jqt, choose {Apple} > Force Quit…
…(I haven't found any other way to escape.)
JVERSION
Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
Library: 8.07.19
Qt IDE: 1.7.9s/5.9.6
Platform: Darwin 64
Installer: J807 install
InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
Contact: www.jsoftware.com
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Re: [Jgeneral] Plot package crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
I'm in the AVX version, and there I didn't encounter your problem, the only
difference I see is the Qt IDE: line reported in JVERSION
I suppose it might have something to do with the Darwin release (on this
machine I'm at Version 10.14.1 beta 4...
I'll look into trying it on a machine without AVX, running an older OS X
load 'plot'
plot 0
plot 1 2 3 5
JVERSION
Engine: j807/j64/darwin
Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:55:35
Library: 8.07.18
Qt IDE: 1.7.9/5.9.6
Platform: Darwin 64
Installer: J807 install
InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> On 2018Oct 22, at 18:31, Ian Clark wrote:
>
> 1. Launch jqt. (With no startup script, to get an out-of-the-box session.
> That's in case there's a clash with something else I was running.)
>
> 2. Enter:
> load'plot'
> plot 0
> …an empty "plot" window appears (as happens with j805 jqt)
>
> 3. Enter (…the first effective phrase from the Plot Package lab):
> plot 1 2 3 5
> …an error message-box appears, with one button: "OK".
> It reads:
> ———
> error in: plot_gs_paint
>
> domain error: cd
> rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.
> (Poutput=iQTC)buf
> ———
>
> 4. Press the "OK" button
> …the message-box disappears then immediately reappears with the same
> message, in an infinite cycle. No other input is accepted by jqt.
>
> 5. To quit jqt, choose {Apple} > Force Quit…
> …(I haven't found any other way to escape.)
>
> JVERSION
> Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
> Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
> Library: 8.07.19
> Qt IDE: 1.7.9s/5.9.6
> Platform: Darwin 64
> Installer: J807 install
> InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
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[Jgeneral] Plot package crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
1. Launch jqt. (With no startup script, to get an out-of-the-box session.
That's in case there's a clash with something else I was running.)
2. Enter:
load'plot'
plot 0
…an empty "plot" window appears (as happens with j805 jqt)
3. Enter (…the first effective phrase from the Plot Package lab):
plot 1 2 3 5
…an error message-box appears, with one button: "OK".
It reads:
———
error in: plot_gs_paint
domain error: cd
rc=. glcmds`glcmds_jglc_@.
(Poutput=iQTC)buf
———
4. Press the "OK" button
…the message-box disappears then immediately reappears with the same
message, in an infinite cycle. No other input is accepted by jqt.
5. To quit jqt, choose {Apple} > Force Quit…
…(I haven't found any other way to escape.)
JVERSION
Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin
Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35
Library: 8.07.19
Qt IDE: 1.7.9s/5.9.6
Platform: Darwin 64
Installer: J807 install
InstallPath: /applications/j64-807
Contact: www.jsoftware.com
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Re: [Jgeneral] Derivative (D.) crashes j807 latest release for Mac /nonavx
> No workaround. Fixed for next beta. For anyone like me needing a workaround right now, use D: instead of D. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/dcapco -has a helpful example of doing just that. On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 7:14 PM Henry Rich wrote: > The error was a misplaced parenthesis. It made the execution of u D. m > liable to crashfor any u for which the derivative was known in closed > form. Very surprising that it didn't fail any of our tests. > > No workaround. Fixed for next beta. > > Henry Rich > > > > On 10/20/2018 8:00 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > j807 crashes with the first sample phrase of the J Dictionary page: > > http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/ddcapdot.htm > > > > (cube D.1;cube D.2; (cube=: ^&3"0) D.3)y=: 2 3 4 > > > > J805 does not crash, but instead gives the expected result. > > > > In jqt the effect is to make the Term window plus any other open jqt > > windows vanish instantly. A few seconds later the standard Apple problem > > report appears with "jqt quit unexpectedly". > > > > With jconsole the result is a little more helpful… > > > > Last login: Sun Oct 21 00:34:50 on ttys000 > > ian-clarks-imac:~ ianclark$ /Applications/j64-807/bin/jconsole ; exit; > > OPEN loaded: 2018-10-21 00:38:21 > > scriptd_truncation: 2018-10-21 00:38:21 > > HANDY loaded: 2018-10-21 00:38:21 > > JVERSION > > Engine: j807/j64nonavx/darwin > > Release: commercial/2018-10-05T11:56:35 > > Library: 8.07.19 > > Platform: Darwin 64 > > Installer: J807 install > > InstallPath: /applications/j64-807 > > Contact: www.jsoftware.com > > (cube D.1;cube D.2; (cube=: ^&3"0) D.3)y=: 2 3 4 > > Segmentation fault: 11 > > logout > > Saving session... > > ...copying shared history... > > ...saving history...truncating history files... > > ...completed. > > > > [Process completed] > > > > Several other (D.) phrases crash too (sorry, haven't kept a list: the > > nature of the error destroys the evidence). > > > > Note my JVERSION . non-avx > > I'm still running OSX El-Capitan Version 10.11.6 on an early-2009 iMac > > because it's too old to be upgraded to Sierra or beyond. > > > > Ian Clark > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
Much better, thanks! Please go ahead. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:06 PM 'robert therriault' via General < gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > Since the page is explicitly about the All in One install, I would remove > > 'Note that if you are running this script in the zip installation (not > All-in-One), then this may give error messages on jqt files, which can be > ignored for now. Once J console is loaded, then if you install the qtide > (with install'qtide'), you should re-run the sierra-fix.command to remove > quarantine on the jqt files.' > > As you point out there is no need to run the jqt files in the AOI > installation. If you wanted you could add > > 'At completion of the All in One installation the slim version of jqt will > be installed. If you wish to have the full installation of jqt, then type > install 'full' into the console and run sierra-fix again to clear the jqt > files' > > If you are comfortable with that I could make that change when I get back > to my computer. > > Cheers, bob > > > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:49 PM, chris burke wrote: > > > > I am not sure anything needs changing, but if you can think of a better > way > > to express this, please go ahead. > > > > What the sentence says is that if you run install 'qtide', then > sierra-fix > > needs to be (re)run. But since AIO comes with Jqt, then you don't need to > > run install 'qtide'. In any case, apart from sierra-fix, re-running > install > > 'qtide' should be harmless, unless the Jqt installation is broken in some > > way. > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM 'robert therriault' via General < > > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks Chris, > >> > >> Install 'qtide' is on this page > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One > >> in the Mac section, instruction 3 after running the Sierra fix. May be > my > >> misunderstanding as the non-AIO is mentioned in the same area as well. > >> > >> Cheers, bob > >> > >>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:17 AM, chris burke > wrote: > >>> > >>> This is the expected behaviour. > >>> > >>> If you already have a slim version, then install 'qtide' just > reinstalls > >>> slim. It is only when jqt is not already installed (i.e. install from > >> zip), > >>> that install 'qtide' will default to full. I will update the > instructions > >>> to make this clear. > >>> > >>> The AIO's include Jqt, so you should not need to run install 'qtide'. > >> Where > >>> do the instructions say this is needed? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:47 AM 'robert therriault' via General < > >>> gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >>> > Thanks Chris, > > I used the All in One link on this page > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One > > and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. > After > typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded > >> up. > So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used > install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install > >> 'full'. > > Cheers, bob > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke > >> wrote: > > > > According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim > version, > > while the following should install the full version: > > > > install 'qtide' > > > > Is this what you see on your machine? > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < > > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > >> I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed > that > >> contrary to the information on this page, > >> > > >> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds > >> ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full > >> version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the > >> default > >> version? > >> > >> Cheers, bob > >> > -- > >> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> -- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> -- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
Since the page is explicitly about the All in One install, I would remove 'Note that if you are running this script in the zip installation (not All-in-One), then this may give error messages on jqt files, which can be ignored for now. Once J console is loaded, then if you install the qtide (with install'qtide'), you should re-run the sierra-fix.command to remove quarantine on the jqt files.' As you point out there is no need to run the jqt files in the AOI installation. If you wanted you could add 'At completion of the All in One installation the slim version of jqt will be installed. If you wish to have the full installation of jqt, then type install 'full' into the console and run sierra-fix again to clear the jqt files' If you are comfortable with that I could make that change when I get back to my computer. Cheers, bob > On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:49 PM, chris burke wrote: > > I am not sure anything needs changing, but if you can think of a better way > to express this, please go ahead. > > What the sentence says is that if you run install 'qtide', then sierra-fix > needs to be (re)run. But since AIO comes with Jqt, then you don't need to > run install 'qtide'. In any case, apart from sierra-fix, re-running install > 'qtide' should be harmless, unless the Jqt installation is broken in some > way. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM 'robert therriault' via General < > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Chris, >> >> Install 'qtide' is on this page >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One >> in the Mac section, instruction 3 after running the Sierra fix. May be my >> misunderstanding as the non-AIO is mentioned in the same area as well. >> >> Cheers, bob >> >>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:17 AM, chris burke wrote: >>> >>> This is the expected behaviour. >>> >>> If you already have a slim version, then install 'qtide' just reinstalls >>> slim. It is only when jqt is not already installed (i.e. install from >> zip), >>> that install 'qtide' will default to full. I will update the instructions >>> to make this clear. >>> >>> The AIO's include Jqt, so you should not need to run install 'qtide'. >> Where >>> do the instructions say this is needed? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:47 AM 'robert therriault' via General < >>> gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: >>> Thanks Chris, I used the All in One link on this page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. After typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded >> up. So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install >> 'full'. Cheers, bob > On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke >> wrote: > > According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim version, > while the following should install the full version: > > install 'qtide' > > Is this what you see on your machine? > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >> I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed that >> contrary to the information on this page, >> >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds >> ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full >> version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the >> default >> version? >> >> Cheers, bob >> -- >> For information about J forums see >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> -- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> -- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
I am not sure anything needs changing, but if you can think of a better way to express this, please go ahead. What the sentence says is that if you run install 'qtide', then sierra-fix needs to be (re)run. But since AIO comes with Jqt, then you don't need to run install 'qtide'. In any case, apart from sierra-fix, re-running install 'qtide' should be harmless, unless the Jqt installation is broken in some way. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM 'robert therriault' via General < gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > Thanks Chris, > > Install 'qtide' is on this page > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One > in the Mac section, instruction 3 after running the Sierra fix. May be my > misunderstanding as the non-AIO is mentioned in the same area as well. > > Cheers, bob > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:17 AM, chris burke wrote: > > > > This is the expected behaviour. > > > > If you already have a slim version, then install 'qtide' just reinstalls > > slim. It is only when jqt is not already installed (i.e. install from > zip), > > that install 'qtide' will default to full. I will update the instructions > > to make this clear. > > > > The AIO's include Jqt, so you should not need to run install 'qtide'. > Where > > do the instructions say this is needed? > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:47 AM 'robert therriault' via General < > > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks Chris, > >> > >> I used the All in One link on this page > >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One > >> > >> and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. After > >> typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded > up. > >> So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used > >> install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install > 'full'. > >> > >> Cheers, bob > >> > >>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke > wrote: > >>> > >>> According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim > >> version, > >>> while the following should install the full version: > >>> > >>> install 'qtide' > >>> > >>> Is this what you see on your machine? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < > >>> gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >>> > I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed > >> that > contrary to the information on this page, > > >> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds > ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full > version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the > default > version? > > Cheers, bob > -- > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> -- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> -- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
Thanks Chris, Install 'qtide' is on this page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One in the Mac section, instruction 3 after running the Sierra fix. May be my misunderstanding as the non-AIO is mentioned in the same area as well. Cheers, bob > On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:17 AM, chris burke wrote: > > This is the expected behaviour. > > If you already have a slim version, then install 'qtide' just reinstalls > slim. It is only when jqt is not already installed (i.e. install from zip), > that install 'qtide' will default to full. I will update the instructions > to make this clear. > > The AIO's include Jqt, so you should not need to run install 'qtide'. Where > do the instructions say this is needed? > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:47 AM 'robert therriault' via General < > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Chris, >> >> I used the All in One link on this page >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One >> >> and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. After >> typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded up. >> So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used >> install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install 'full'. >> >> Cheers, bob >> >>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke wrote: >>> >>> According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim >> version, >>> while the following should install the full version: >>> >>> install 'qtide' >>> >>> Is this what you see on your machine? >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < >>> gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: >>> I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed >> that contrary to the information on this page, >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the default version? Cheers, bob -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> -- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> -- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
This is the expected behaviour. If you already have a slim version, then install 'qtide' just reinstalls slim. It is only when jqt is not already installed (i.e. install from zip), that install 'qtide' will default to full. I will update the instructions to make this clear. The AIO's include Jqt, so you should not need to run install 'qtide'. Where do the instructions say this is needed? On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:47 AM 'robert therriault' via General < gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > Thanks Chris, > > I used the All in One link on this page > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One > > and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. After > typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded up. > So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used > install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install 'full'. > > Cheers, bob > > > On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke wrote: > > > > According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim > version, > > while the following should install the full version: > > > > install 'qtide' > > > > Is this what you see on your machine? > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < > > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > >> I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed > that > >> contrary to the information on this page, > >> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds > >> ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full > >> version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the default > >> version? > >> > >> Cheers, bob > >> -- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Slim version of jqt is now the default for j807?
Thanks Chris, I used the All in One link on this page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/All-in-One and then followed the instructions, which include install 'qtide'. After typing that into the console window the slim version of qt was loaded up. So perhaps the All in One overrides what I was expecting when I used install 'qtide'? I was able to load the full version with install 'full'. Cheers, bob > On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:34 AM, chris burke wrote: > > According to that page, the AIO installers should install the slim version, > while the following should install the full version: > > install 'qtide' > > Is this what you see on your machine? > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM 'robert therriault' via General < > gene...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > >> I just updated to the new version of j807 for avx Macs and I noticed that >> contrary to the information on this page, >> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Install#Slim_vs_Full_Builds >> ,the default version of jqt is now the slim version and not the full >> version. Was this an oversight or has there been a change in the default >> version? >> >> Cheers, bob >> -- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
