Re: [VOTE] Release SAMOA 0.4.0 (incubating) RC1

2016-09-19 Thread Alan Gates
+1. Checked the LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER files. Checked the signatures. Did a build with a clean maven repo. Checked for binary files. Ran a rat check. As a note there are several files that rat complains about. Based on a quick look I’m not sure it’s possible to add license

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 13:05 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal > > There is a big difference between Apache OpenOffice and NetBeans.

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is a big difference between Apache OpenOffice and NetBeans. NetBeans, even with the NetBeans Platform, is a developer-facing project. I presume that the cycle of learning and improvement out through the adopters and community for NetBeans is operating successfully and will thrive at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
(sorry sent the previous msg too early) > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >> On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" wrote: >>>...We don't like to loose any IP provenance... Etc, etc. >> Isn't IP provenance reset by the SGA?... I

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" wrote: >>...We don't like to loose any IPprovenance... Etc, etc. > > Isn't IP provenance reset by the SGA? It was for Adobe Flex. Only a > couple of committers

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Mark Struberg
btw, current import status: 230.000 / 303.000 Might probably be finished till tomorrow morning (CEST). LieGrue, strub > On Monday, 19 September 2016, 19:39, Emmanuel Lécharny > wrote: > > Le 19/09/16 à 16:33, Mark Struberg a écrit : >> Linux never was on hg, so the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 19/09/16 à 16:33, Mark Struberg a écrit : > Linux never was on hg, so the comparison doesn't fit. > > To be more clear: I'm not concerned that GIT cannot handle the NetBeans repo > size. > But we cannot guarantee yet that the import from hg to GIT doesn't loose > important information or

[RESULT][VOTE] MADlib v1.9.1-rc2

2016-09-19 Thread Frank McQuillan
(re-sending with corrected subject line) The vote has PASSED with 3 +1 binding votes from the Incubator PMC members, and no 0 or -1 votes: +1 Justin Mclean +1 Roman Shaposhnik +1 John Ament On behalf of the MADlib community, thank you very much to the reviewers above and others who commented on

[RESULT][VOTE] MADlib v1.9.1-rc2

2016-09-19 Thread Frank McQuillan
The vote has PASSED with 3 +1 binding votes from the Incubator PMC members, and no 0 or -1 votes: +1 Justin Mclean +1 Roman Shaposhnik +1 John Ament On behalf of the MADlib community, thank you very much to the reviewers above and others who commented on the associated legal-discuss thread. We

Re: [VOTE] MADlib v1.9.1-rc2

2016-09-19 Thread Frank McQuillan
On behalf of the MADlib community, thank you very much to the reviewers and others who commented on the associated legal-discuss thread. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 6:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > +1 binding > > While the release contents look odd, they're not wrong. We'll

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/19/16, 8:55 AM, "shaposh...@gmail.com on behalf of Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Mark Struberg > wrote: >>But we don't yet know what is part of the hg repo and what is part of

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:04, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" wrote: > > >> We also need to check whether the author and contributor flags are >> properly moved over by the import. We don't like to loose any IP >>

Re: Request to be added to ContributorsGroup on MoinMoin wiki

2016-09-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
Hi John, My username for MoinMoin is BruceSnyder. Bruce On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:32 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Bruce, > > Whats your username? Each wiki requires separate accounts. > > John > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:30 AM Bruce Snyder >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > I tend to agree with Alex' interpretation. Makes two of us. > But we don't yet know what is part of the hg repo and what is part of the > Oracle contribution. > > What would happen if someone e.g. did commit

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Mark Struberg
I tend to agree with Alex' interpretation. But we don't yet know what is part of the hg repo and what is part of the Oracle contribution. What would happen if someone e.g. did commit some GPL licensed jar to the repo a few years ago? It's easy to catch such things if they are still in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/19/16, 8:13 AM, "Wade Chandler" wrote: >> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:04, Alex Harui >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg"

Re: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-19 17:09, Suneel Marthi wrote: I am sorry to be reading this, but I was at Steve Blackmon's talk last week in Berlin at Flink forward about using Streams + Flink. It was a very interesting talk and I chatted with Steve briefly about the Streams project. Good to hear that! I wasn't

Re: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread Suneel Marthi
I am sorry to be reading this, but I was at Steve Blackmon's talk last week in Berlin at Flink forward about using Streams + Flink. It was a very interesting talk and I chatted with Steve briefly about the Streams project. Is there absolutely no chance of reviving this project or giving the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:04, Alex Harui > wrote: > > > > On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" > wrote: > > >> We also need to check whether the author and contributor flags are >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/19/16, 6:16 AM, "Mark Struberg" wrote: >We also need to check whether the author and contributor flags are >properly moved over by the import. We don't like to loose any IP >provenance... Etc, etc. Isn't IP provenance reset by the SGA? It was for Adobe Flex.

Re: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-19 16:33, Ate Douma wrote: On 2016-09-19 15:44, John D. Ament wrote: Ate, Please also note the instructions from the incubator's retirement guide. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html Right. Thanks for pointing this out John. I've never before had to handle a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Mark Struberg
Linux never was on hg, so the comparison doesn't fit. To be more clear: I'm not concerned that GIT cannot handle the NetBeans repo size. But we cannot guarantee yet that the import from hg to GIT doesn't loose important information or works at all. Another goal is to figure out if binaries

Re: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-19 15:44, John D. Ament wrote: Ate, Please also note the instructions from the incubator's retirement guide. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html Right. Thanks for pointing this out John. I've never before had to handle a podling retirement and overlooked this

Re: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread John D. Ament
Ate, Please also note the instructions from the incubator's retirement guide. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html John On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM Ate Douma wrote: > FYI, I've started below vote to retire Apache Streams, after I first > initiated a >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 19/09/16 à 13:10, Raphael Bircher a écrit : > Hi Geertjan > > I'm registred at NetBeams now, to get a closer look at the project. I > was a bit shocked about the similarities with the formar > OpenOffice.org project. The structure of the Project, the workflow > etc. are so close to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 19/09/16 à 15:16, Mark Struberg a écrit : > To be honest: I was a bit worried when the github import blew up. That was > actually the main reason why I started a local import. Beside playing with the import tools for your own interest, I seriously doubt that importing the netbeans code base on

Fwd: [VOTE] Release SAMOA 0.4.0 (incubating) RC1

2016-09-19 Thread Nicolas Kourtellis
Hi all, Our new release has been voted from the Apache SAMOA team and we are opening the vote to the incubator email list for testing. Please vote on releasing the following release candidate as Apache SAMOA (incubating) version 0.4.0. This release will be the second release for SAMOA in the

Fwd: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic

2016-09-19 Thread Ate Douma
FYI, I've started below vote to retire Apache Streams, after I first initiated a [discuss] thread more than a week ago, which resulted in zero feedback. Ate (Streams mentor) Forwarded Message Subject: [VOTE] Retire Apache Streams to the attic Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:27:11

Re: Request to be added to ContributorsGroup on MoinMoin wiki

2016-09-19 Thread John D. Ament
Bruce, Whats your username? Each wiki requires separate accounts. John On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:30 AM Bruce Snyder wrote: > Please consider this a request to be added to the ContributorsGroup on the > MoinMoin wiki at wiki.apache.org. I need to edit the RocketMQ

Request to be added to ContributorsGroup on MoinMoin wiki

2016-09-19 Thread Bruce Snyder
Please consider this a request to be added to the ContributorsGroup on the MoinMoin wiki at wiki.apache.org. I need to edit the RocketMQ proposal and currently I have no edit capability. Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Michael Müller
Hmm, as far as I know the biggest problem of OpenOffice had been licensing. ASFAIK LibreOffice's success is a different license which allows to incorporate more sources. I'm not a licensing specialist. I hope, wie wohnt geht problems. -- Herzliche Grüße, Best regards Michael Müller Twitter:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Mark Struberg
Indeed, this is currently just to get an idea about whether it is technically possible at all and how 'expensive' it is. I'd like to look at the size of the git repo. There might be binaries, jars etc which got committed over time. Those might need to get filtered out to streamline the repo

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On 19.09.2016 11:42 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > If I succeed then I'll push it to github. >From the NetBeans side, we assume this is basically an experiment at this stage - we will look at the results and this is a very interesting experiment. There could be different approaches. For example,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On 18.09.2016 9:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > There is no rush, no dates, no deadlines at the ASF. It may take longer via > mailing lists, but it means that the larger community can be involved, can > review, and can be archived. Makes sense -- and indeed the more details we have up front the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On 19.09.2016 1:10, Raphael Bircher wrote: > My biggest fear ist the community. As I saw on the NetBeans ML, the > decision to join the ASF was made by Oracle. Well a load of the > community members welcome this step, but there are also fears. This > fears has to be addressed, this is very very

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On 19.09.2016 1:10, Raphael Bircher wrote: > One Mail also complained about the Initial Committer list. Are all > active committers who did commit in the last 6 month (or so) on the > initial committer list. forgotten people can create bad blood and > disappointment. The committers are the most

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-19 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Geertjan I'm registred at NetBeams now, to get a closer look at the project. I was a bit shocked about the similarities with the formar OpenOffice.org project. The structure of the Project, the workflow etc. are so close to the OpenOffice.org project, much closer as I expected. My biggest fear