Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 12:22 AM Rupert Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 08:08, Vladimir Sitnikov > wrote: > > > > You are right about that, and I think that ultimately could prevent it > > from > > > happening > > > > Can you elaborate? > > > > Suppose Apache Bicycle project takes the

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Rupert Smith
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 08:08, Vladimir Sitnikov wrote: > > You are right about that, and I think that ultimately could prevent it > from > > happening > > Can you elaborate? > > Suppose Apache Bicycle project takes the current Elm code in a source > form and evolves it. > It should be pretty much

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Rupert Smith
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 11:12, Justin Mclean wrote: > The BSD license is compatible with the Apache license, so there are no > license or legal issues here. However in general, the ASF likes to play > nice with other communities and not have hostile forks. You would need to > come up with a good

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Rupert Smith
On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 15:59, Vladimir Sitnikov wrote: > See https://dev.to/kspeakman/elm-019-broke-us--khn , > https://discourse.elm-lang.org/t/native-code-in-0-19/826 Yes, this did happen... but I would also qualify it by adding that it should have been very clear that the kernel interfaces

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Vladimir Sitnikov
> If the current owner of the code base is not acting in the best interest of the wider community, then that might be a reason for it to be considered Frankly speaking, my experience with Elm is limited to watching talks and reading blogposts, however, I incline that the code owner does ignore

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The BSD license is compatible with the Apache license, so there are no license or legal issues here. However in general, the ASF likes to play nice with other communities and not have hostile forks. You would need to come up with a good case to get the project accepted as an ASF incubating

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-08 Thread Vladimir Sitnikov
> You are right about that, and I think that ultimately could prevent it from > happening Can you elaborate? Suppose Apache Bicycle project takes the current Elm code in a source form and evolves it. It should be pretty much possible. BSD-3 code may be included in Apache projects. BSD-3 does

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-07 Thread Rupert Smith
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 at 13:32, PJ Fanning wrote: > One thing to be aware of is that the license on Elm Compiler is BSD > 3-clause license [1]. Generally speaking, the ASF would require the > code to be granted to the foundation, including permission to change > over to the Apache 2 license. In a

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-07 Thread PJ Fanning
Hi everyone, I think the ASF has proved a good home for a large variety of different projects. I don't see any reason why a project like Elm couldn't flourish at the ASF. One thing to be aware of is that the license on Elm Compiler is BSD 3-clause license [1]. Generally speaking, the ASF would

Re: Are programming languages suitable for Apache?

2023-01-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Apache Groovy - https://groovy.apache.org/ Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Rupert Smith > wrote: > > Its been a long time since I was last involved as an Apache committer. Back > around 2004ish I contributed to the now defunct qpid project, which was an > implementation of