Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

just updated that issue as there were some rumors that we are unstuck, just not yet documented as such. fingers crossed. On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:40 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi, > > I was looking at the October report and see that we need to close the loop on > this thread. > > > On Sep 27,

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi, I was looking at the October report and see that we need to close the loop on this thread. > On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:29 PM Adrian Cole wrote: >> ...basically I'm sure many of us would like to know where the >>

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Thanks tons. I am now watching INFRA-16989 and will follow-up there. On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:59 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:29 PM Adrian Cole wrote: > > ...basically I'm sure many of us would like to know where the > > concerns are and how to address

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi, On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:29 PM Adrian Cole wrote: > ...basically I'm sure many of us would like to know where the > concerns are and how to address concretely what is of issue... As Craig wrote earlier here > ..."all that needs to be done" is to establish that all of the copyright >

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

one note in our efforts to change this to action: the PPMC wrote or significantly changed the vast majority of the code in the main repo. The heroes that wrote the rest largely came from Twitter (in Italy work) plus close and easy to find friends of Zipkin who volunteered effort. A long tail of

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi, all. Assuming the primary provenance concern is Twitter, I'm looping in Ravi who is happy to help where he can, subject to personal availability. Just keep in mind that the repository mentioned is in almost 100% Java and no Java code was written by Twitter employees. This was done after

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi Alex, Without going into history let's discuss the current guidance: http://www.apache.org/licenses/#provenance If you want to cite historical references that conflict with this, we can have that discussion. Establishing provenance is one of the primary tasks of a project in incubation.

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought that an SGA wasn't required for ALv2 code. OpenZipkin appears to be ALv2. The licenses in the SGA are pretty much the same as in ALv2. I thought that for ALv2 code, we mostly cared that the community documented that it was willing to make the move from

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

+1 with a minor addendum. Smallish contributions do not constitute own Intellectual Property Rights if they do not pass the bar for the 'threshold of originality'. Of course this bar is a grey area. But it's afaict established sense that small bugfixes, and minor contributions (no whole

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

OpenZipkin isn't a formal entity. The primary fork (master copy) was moved from twitter to a github org named OpenZipkin. We aren't moving any downstream forks to the exist they still exist for Lookout or any other person. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:40 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi, > > Is

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi, Is OpenZipkin a formal entity? What about Lookout who also had a fork (according to the references)? At Twitter you might try Remy DeCausemaker. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Adrian Cole wrote: > > Hi, John > > Thanks for the input. So, I would

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi, John Thanks for the input. So, I would hazard a guess that Twitter folks would like to help with this. I'm not sure who would want to hunt through the management chain to find someone to reverse-own a decision made 3 years ago, though! Regardless, on my part, I'll see if I can find a champion

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Thanks Adrian. Some comments/banter below. Migrating a repository from one org to another does not require an SGA. If it did, we would not be able to have code living in our repos that had headers other than the ASF standard headers (e.g. BSD licenses, or Apache License w/ different copyright

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

There was a process involved at Twitter when we first moved it to the openzipkin organization. It was 100% clear that this was an act for the community to control the code. Senior management were involved https://groups.google.com/d/msg/zipkin-user/fbOgEZpuQx4/bWH1-__EmCoJ After that, all the

Re: Does Zipkin need to sign a SGA ?

Hi Mick, tldr; with my Incubator PMC hat on, "all that needs to be done" is to establish that all of the copyright owners sign either a Software Grant or an ICLA. In order to establish that Apache has the rights to the code base, every line of code needs to have its provenance researched.