Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Yes, exactly. Thanks. And done. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Nick Kew
> On 8 May 2019, at 10:13, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> I can see it from here, but I was unable to log in. Tried a password reset, >> whereupon I'm no longer permitted even to view the report on the browser >> that's logged in! > > I assume you were going to sign off PageSpeed? It

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Stop sending me your bogus ass shit!! As requested you have been unsubscribed from this list. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Brian Young
Stop sending me your bogus ass shit!! On Tue, May 7, 2019, 6:50 PM Nick Kew > > On 5 May 2019, at 23:21, Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 > > Anyone else having trouble with that? > > I can see it from here, but I was unable to log

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Brian Young
For someone with ptsd!!! Do u want some more? On Tue, May 7, 2019, 6:50 PM Nick Kew > > On 5 May 2019, at 23:21, Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 > > Anyone else having trouble with that? > > I can see it from here, but I was unable

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I can see it from here, but I was unable to log in. Tried a password reset, > whereupon I'm no longer permitted even to view the report on the browser > that's logged in! I assume you were going to sign off PageSpeed? It currently has no signs off and will be asked to report next month

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > On 5/7/2019 7:50 PM, Nick Kew wrote: >>> On 5 May 2019, at 23:21, Justin Mclean wrote: >>> >>> 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 >> Anyone else having trouble with that? >> >> I

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 5/7/2019 7:50 PM, Nick Kew wrote: >> On 5 May 2019, at 23:21, Justin Mclean wrote: >> >> 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 > Anyone else having trouble with that? > > I can see it from here, but I was unable to log in. Tried a password reset, > whereupon I'm no

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Brian Young
On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > It seems that the report has been finalized. I had a comment in response > to Justin’s notes regarding CDN testing for MxNet and ECharts. > > A third party provider is being used for these Anycast CDNs. Nothing to > file for the ASF. > >

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - It seems that the report has been finalized. I had a comment in response to Justin’s notes regarding CDN testing for MxNet and ECharts. A third party provider is being used for these Anycast CDNs. Nothing to file for the ASF. Regards, Dave > On May 5, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Justin Mclean

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Though I don't like implying that IPMC members are better than > others...IMO the core problem is "uninformed people" or something like > that. Yep that seems a much better way of putting it, thanks for the input. Justin

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:27 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I actually when though the mailing list for the last 6 months and checked > what > over 100 people had commented on one by one and reported back here. There was > a clear > correlation between those on the IPMC and those who are

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Sorry I was referring to the second part of your email not the first. it seems you may of missed that bit of analysis. There is certainly some of what you say but the majority of IPMC members, even those who are not that involved are helpful and provide useful comments. The non-IPMC

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I agree that drive-by comments are sometimes a problem here but I > don't think they necessarily correlate with people being on the IPMC > or not. Like this discussion perhaps? :-) I actually when though the mailing list for the last 6 months and checked what over 100 people had commented

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Julian Feinauer
+1, I like that formulation. On 2019/04/09 09:26:00, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Julian Feinauer wrote: > > ...If its these "drive-by comments" that are annoying then I would name > > that so, e.g. "What > > seems less helpful in some cases is

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Julian Feinauer wrote: > ...If its these "drive-by comments" that are annoying then I would name that > so, e.g. "What > seems less helpful in some cases is involvement of non-IPMC members which drop > comments and leave the discussion then I agree that

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi, thanks for your clarification. I can only speak for myself and I try to involve in discussions where I think I can be helpful or where I have a strong opinion (usually from the podling perspective). But, of course, I do not want to disturb things or annoy people on these lists, so I was a

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The last sentence indicates that non-IPMC members should not involve on this > list? Is this the case? Well we can’t stop them from being involved, and nor IMO should we, it is a public list after all. And most of the time they can be useful and helpful, it's just in some cases they

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-04-09 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi Justin, thanks for the report. I agree with all thats listed there, but theres one passage which I dont understand or which makes me think... it is: Having a smaller IPMC was discussed, it was suggested that anyone not signed up to the private list be removed from the IPMC. This was looked

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > If the non-approved artifact is not advertised on the download page and is > made available to the development community on request then we are good. Well I think so, but I’m sure that release policy does and infra doesn’t seem to allow it on docker hub, but perhaps they do “unofficial”

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Give the response from intro on use of docker. it would seem that this is not > actually allowed. > >> Nightly builds for project-internal use clearly marked as "snapshot" or >> "prerelease" (or similar)

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Give the response from intro on use of docker. it would seem that this is not > actually allowed. "response from INFRA" sorry. Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Give the response from intro on use of docker. it would seem that this is not actually allowed. > Nightly builds for project-internal use clearly marked as "snapshot" or > "prerelease" (or similar) can be made available to project contributors. If > in doubt please ask your mentors or on

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> I respectfully request that you edit the following to make it less alarming >> and remove any implication that the IPMC cannot handle our duties. > > I don’t read that implication there, this is quite factual all of the

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I respectfully request that you edit the following to make it less alarming > and remove any implication that the IPMC cannot handle our duties. I don’t read that implication there, this is quite factual all of the project had issues with unapproved releases that had gone unnoticed. I’ll

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-07 Thread Dave Fisher
concerns, but it is in limbo … Regards, Dave > On Feb 7, 2019, at 12:38 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Sorry I meant to send this to the list but only Dave got it. > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Justin Mclean >> Subject: Re: Draft incubator rep

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > "A reminder to all incubating projects and mentors that all releases > and distributions advertised to the general public need to be approved by > the PPMC and IPMC. This includes docker, github, PyPi, npm and any > other platform for publishing releases, and also covers release candidates.

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Myrle Krantz
Cool. I think we've generated some consensus, even if we haven't answered every question. To summarize, I'd like to change this paragraph of the report: "Again a reminder to all incubating projects and mentors that all releases made available to the general public need to be approved by the

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > On 2/5/2019 6:27 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: >> Hi, >> As long as these are not available to the general public all is fine. [1] >>> s/available/advertised/ >> Thanks that’s a better way of putting it. Obviously any published

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 2/5/2019 6:27 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >>> As long as these are not available to the general public all is fine. [1] >> s/available/advertised/ > Thanks that’s a better way of putting it. Obviously any published artefact is > available to the general public if and when they discover

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, >> As long as these are not available to the general public all is fine. [1] > > s/available/advertised/ Thanks that’s a better way of putting it. Obviously any published artefact is available to the general public if and when they discover it. What’s important is that it’s not the

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Mark Thomas
On 05/02/2019 10:23, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> We need a formulation which enables pre-release QA by non-coding >> contributors. I've given my attempt at formulating it. Please give your >> take on how to accomplish this. > > As long as these are not available to the general public all

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > That statement would also forbid maven snapshots. Something which many > projects (TLPS too) offer. Is that the intention? They are fine as you need to explicitly do something to use them, i.e. they are not the default and the user understands that by using snapshots they are using

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Myrle Krantz
That statement would also forbid maven snapshots. Something which many projects (TLPS too) offer. Is that the intention? It’s important to me that when we forbid something that projects are doing for valid reasons that we offer an alternative within the same statement. I’ve offered a potential

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > We need a formulation which enables pre-release QA by non-coding > contributors. I've given my attempt at formulating it. Please give your > take on how to accomplish this. As long as these are not available to the general public all is fine. [1] Thanks, Justin 1.

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-04 Thread Myrle Krantz
Hi Justin, We need a formulation which enables pre-release QA by non-coding contributors. I've given my attempt at formulating it. Please give your take on how to accomplish this. Best Regards, Myrle On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:01 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > This does *not* include

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > This does *not* include nightly builds, or other project *internal* artifacts > used for quality control and experimentation.” Actually it does apply and those builds can’t be offered directly to the general public, but each of the platforms has mechanisms for doing that. For instance,

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-04 Thread Woonsan Ko
Hi Justin, Everything looks good. Thank you! By the way, I've noticed that some podling communities have been less active since last week. The lunar new year day, tomorrow, might have affected them, especially where most committers are working in Korea or China. That can't be an excuse though.

Re: Draft incubator report

2019-02-04 Thread Myrle Krantz
Hi Justin, This looks good. in your general notice about releases, please include a note about nightly builds, and any other non-releases which communities can make. In other words, after: "This includes docker, githubb, PyPi, npm and any other platform for publishing releases, and also covers

Re: Draft incubator report for January 2019

2019-01-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, You can edit it in whimsy. Thanks, Justin On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 08:50 Myrle Krantz Hey Justin, > > I just signed off weex... and then realized I was signing off on a report > that was already submitted. Sorry about that. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:55 AM Justin

Re: Draft incubator report for January 2019

2019-01-11 Thread Myrle Krantz
Hey Justin, I just signed off weex... and then realized I was signing off on a report that was already submitted. Sorry about that. Best Regards, Myrle On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:55 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Currently there's a couple of projects don’t have any sign offs. While we >

Re: Draft incubator report for January 2019

2019-01-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Currently there's a couple of projects don’t have any sign offs. While we have more than a day to go please don't leave it too late. Just a friendly reminder any project that doesn't get any sign-off will be asked to report next month and the board likes to see more than one sign off.

Re: Draft incubator report for October 2018

2018-10-02 Thread Luciano Resende
I am on a cell phone most of the day today, but i can check in the evening. If anyone bit me to it, there is a copy of the report on the marvin dev list. On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 05:17 John D. Ament wrote: > There's a conflict in the Marvin AI report, not sure which sections to fix > though. > >

Re: Draft incubator report for October 2018

2018-10-02 Thread John D. Ament
There's a conflict in the Marvin AI report, not sure which sections to fix though. On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 06:40 Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > I’m still waiting for a few podlings to submit their reports but have made > a draft incubator report. [1] Feedback, suggested changes, spelling or >

Re: Draft incubator report for September

2018-09-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The report has been submitted. In the end one two podling didn’t report (Gearpump and Milagro) and two reports didn’t have any sign offs (OpenWhisk and Warble). Thanks, Justin

Re: Draft incubator report for September

2018-09-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I’ve updated the draft incubator report here. [1]. Currently we are missing reports from 3 podlings; Gearpump, Milagro and OpenWhsk, and a number of report sign offs. If you are a mentor of a project please read the report, sign off and make any comments you think are needed before

Re: Draft incubator report for September

2018-09-02 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > HAWK graduated to TLP. That should be HAWQ - thank you auto correct. Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org