Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Sep 15, 2016, at 08:15, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi Incubator PMC, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: >> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ... > > At this point I ask anyone

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

It really does sound like these licensing and distribution concerns can be solved in one way or another. Also, from the NetBeans side, we're going to do everything we can to fit into the most optimal Apache approach to structuring our infrastructure under Apache. We want to end up in a situation

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Hi, On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: > NetBeans has installers, and those installers inevitably bake in some things. > ATM they provide both Tomcat and > Glassfish. I assume that could be changed to TomEE or what ever, but would > like to know

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On 09/15/2016 02:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: >> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ... > > At this point I ask anyone with concerns or questions that

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: >> ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ... > > At this point I ask anyone

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Very glad to see this proposal! On 13 Sep 2016 8:40 a.m., "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache NetBeans, a > development environment, tooling platform, and application framework. > ==

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Yes, the timing is quite good, given what's happening with Kenai. I imagine that everything will transfer from NetBeans to Apache in stages, as outlined near the start/middle of this thread. Indeed, plugins.netbeans.org would be one of the last things to migrate, though many solutions are

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Yes, I think this is outside the scope of this discussion. The WHY is defined clearly: netbeans.org/community/apache-incubator.html Feel free to drop me a mail off-thread about this. Gj On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Claborn wrote: > I'm very new in this type of

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On 2016-09-15 14:15, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Incubator PMC, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ... At this point I ask anyone with concerns or questions that haven't been

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

I'm very new in this type of thing. I have zero experience with ASF, etc, so if this is out of line, please forgive and I'll keep silent. I've seen a lot of discussion about the HOW in terms of moving NetBeans to the Apache project, but not much/any discussion about WHY. I'm not a NetBeans

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Hi, On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Claborn wrote: > ...I've seen a lot of discussion about the HOW in terms of moving NetBeans to > the Apache project, but not much/any discussion about WHY The "why" is that the current NetBeans owner (Oracle) has expressed a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

I think one-on-one discovery would indeed be good -- not sure how that progresses from here, though I can put you in touch directly with the NetBeans build engineers who will be able to provide all the missing info. [And, again, this is precisely one big benefit of NetBeans in Apache: we will have

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

As a NetBeans community contributor and plugin maker, I'll try to clarify some points about how plugins work on NetBeans and how they're important. 1. Plugins can either upload a binary (NBM) or just an advertisement (with link to another site) 2. Plugins that upload a binary (NBM) can be

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

As a NetBeans community contributor and plugin maker, I'll try to clarify some points about how plugins work on NetBeans and how they're important. 1. Plugins can either upload a binary (NBM) or just an advertisement (with link to another site) 2. Plugins that upload a binary (NBM) can be

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Sorry for top posting (phone), but of the machines listed, are any available to be migrated or donated to the ASF? Or expected to be? Mac builds is an interesting topic on this as well. On Sep 15, 2016 6:36 PM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Notes on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

I'm sure the physical machines themselves will not be donated. But the space on them might, i.e., we could decide that some of the artifacts should stay where they are. The source code, i.e., the active Mercurial repos, should move to Apache Git, mirrored on Apache GitHub, ideally. The process

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer. Who > from Apache infra is going to do 1:1 discovery? Daniel Gruno will - feel free to reach out directly to him at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Thanks. Contacting him. More info, this time statistics: Total Physical Source Lines of Code = 8,281,256 Total Number of Files = 64927 Thanks, Geertjan: On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:22 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >

[VOTE] Release of Apache Tephra-0.9.0-incubating [rc1]

Hi all, This is a call for a vote on releasing Apache Tephra 0.9.0-incubating, release candidate 1. This is the second release of Tephra. Apache Tephra community has voted and approved the release. Vote thread:

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Of the 32 repos in Mercurial, not all are active. We assume we'll have Git-style development under Apache, with pull requests. That is, however, a different working/infrastructure style than we have had in Oracle, with parallel integration (http://wiki.netbeans.org/HgParallelProjectIntegration).

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Notes on the NetBeans infrastructure from the NetBeans build engineer. Who from Apache infra is going to do 1:1 discovery? Public servers: - www.netbeans.org: The core of the netbeans.org project, as well as user management, bugzilla, and mailing lists. - hg.netbeans.org: 1 VM with 32 Mercurial

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

I don't personally have any products using the name necessarily. I do have a plugin that uses the word NetBeans as part of its name, but it is only used in NetBeans, and freely available in the portal, but is the only one, and could be renamed if plugins also have this restriction; may impact

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Technically NetBeans is both an RCP, first technically, and an IDE, so it is a library, and an application, but no, there is no separate TCK. All the tests are in the build infrastructure you get when you clone the repository. There are some infrastructure things which the community uses to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Thanks a lot for the input, Leonardo! Great to have you part of the future Apache NetBeans community. :-) Gj On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Leonardo Loch Zanivan wrote: > As a NetBeans community contributor and plugin maker, I'll try to clarify > some points about how

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Mitch Claborn wrote on 9/15/16 11:07 AM: > I'm very new in this type of thing. I have zero experience with ASF, > etc, so if this is out of line, please forgive and I'll keep silent. > > I've seen a lot of discussion about the HOW in terms of moving NetBeans > to the Apache project, but not

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

David Nalley wrote on 9/15/16 11:28 AM: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> Hi Incubator PMC, >> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga >> wrote: >>> ...

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Hi Incubator PMC, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ... https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal ... At this point I ask anyone with concerns or questions that haven't been addressed so far and would prevent us from voting on

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Hi David, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:14 PM, David Nalley wrote: > ...While it may not be a requirement to enter incubation, I do want us to > understand plugins.netbeans.org (and any other pieces of their > infrastructure)... > ...I think this is similar to Maven Central - yes, we