Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Onami as TLD

2013-03-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
my own +1 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Apache Onami entered incubation before more than 3 months. Since then the community has proven to be pretty active and healthy. A few releases were made and the status page has been completed:

[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Onami as TLD

2013-03-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The vote has passed with 9 binding +1 and no objections: - Mohammad Nour El-Din (Mentor) - Bertrand Delacretaz - Mark Struberg - Rich Bowen - Niall Pemperton - Chris Mattmann - Olivier Lamy (Mentor) - Tommaso Teofili - Christian Grobmeier (Mentor) We'll start the graduation process in the next

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-29 Thread Matthias Friedrich
On Thursday, 2013-03-28, Chris Douglas wrote: [...] Is this a question of standing, where material harm needs to be demonstrated? The IPMC is needlessly inefficient and abusive of its podlings. Novel compliance mechanisms are literally invented and argued about on general@ during podlings'

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-29 Thread Ross Gardler
We clearly differ with our view if how much is delegated from board to IPMC. The amount of work the board does on x podlings weach month is less than the work they do on x TLPs. That is without the IPMC addressing issues that come up every now and again. We can go into detail if it becomes

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-29 Thread Benson Margulies
I don't suppose that I could convince folks to start a new thread for the topic, 'The Incubator is a FAIL', and leave this one to the patch for the decision process? On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: We clearly differ with our view if how much is

Incubator Deconstruction (was Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-03-29 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
[Note subject line change for Benson] Hi Ross, -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:09 AM To: general general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Vote on personal

Re: Incubator Deconstruction (was Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-03-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Chris, The fundamental issue is that I don't agree the IPMC needs deconstructing. I believe it finds it difficult to come to a decision when unusual circumstance arises, but most of the time it does fine. I don't accept that using yourself as an example of how we can find sufficient mentors for

Re: Incubator Deconstruction (was Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-03-29 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hahah, we all need sleep? What?!! :) Take care duder, we'll spent some cycles doing other emails while we let this sit. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA

Re: Incubator Deconstruction (was Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-03-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: 2) more direct leadership that seeks basic consensus on very specific and clear new changes, but doesn't let discussions get weighed down with too many options, or stalled by a relative handful of -0s. The hard work