Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board

Great news indeed! Thanks and congratulations to everyone who has contributed in any way including the Apache mentors Bertrand, Ate, Daniel, and Jim. A big special thanks to Geertjan, Jirka, Jarda, Tim, Jesse, Bruno, Milos, Tomas, Jan, and all the other old hats from NetBeans including the NBDT

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0 released

Great job Lazlo and everyone else; thanks so much for all your hard work! This is awesome news! Wade On Thu, Apr 4, 2019, 18:57 Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache > NetBeans (incubating) 11.0. > > Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Thanks so much Justin and for your involvement. Wade On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 17:21 Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Changing my vote to: > +1 (binding) > > And I’m sorry for any upset my first vote caused. > > Thanks, > Justin > -

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 22:34 Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they: > - Have made several releases before. > - Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix. > - Looks like nothing has been done to correct those issues. > > Now I

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 13:03 Ross Gardler wrote: > Opinions were asked for. I gave mine. > > I have tried to do it before and been squashed repeatedly because my > opinion is not broadly supported. I should not have said board must as it > has been brought here recently and did not find support.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 21:43 Justin Mclean wrote: > > Theres are the binary inclusions that seem to contain compiled code, an > ASF release should not include this: > B > > ./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/com-example-testmodule-cluster.nbm > B >

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

IMO something real is missing from this whole conversation. Does the ASF want to have successful projects? Honest question time. Would Tomcat have been successful if there had been source only downloads with no “official" runnable software? Were all those users for all those years compiling

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

+1 non-binding On Sun, May 27, 2018, 17:32 Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi folks! > > Justin, thanks for talking such a deep look and catching those flaws, > really appreciated! > > Here is my personal view: It's just test data, and if we can guarantee > that the test data

Re: [VOTE] Release 1.5 of NetBeans HTML/Java API

https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes It is technically both with nuances. Time and 3 binding +1s plus a majority +1s. The 72 hours is a participation enabler. The 3 bindings is the minimum required, but a majority -1s would be a

Re: [VOTE] Release 1.5 of NetBeans HTML/Java API

+1 On Oct 21, 2017 08:07, "Mark Struberg" wrote: > +1 IPMC binding > > LICENSE, NOTICE, rat, dependencies, signing, etc all looks good. > > However when building it from the distribution zip on my macbook with > java8 144 I sometimes get test errors. > All of them in

Re: [LAZY] Letting anyone invite on Slack

We do this with ours: https://netbeans.signup.team The Slack guys are the ones who even told us to. There is no theoretical limit according to them. You just have to manage the outstanding invites, and clean them up if there are a bunch where folks did not finish out the process. If you do not,

Re: Urgent: Regarding Java package name change to org.apache.*

On Aug 4, 2017 10:37, "Andy Seaborne" wrote: On 04/08/17 13:09, Shane Curcuru wrote: > John D. Ament wrote on 8/4/17 7:59 AM: > >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:17 AM Shane Curcuru >> wrote: >> > ...snip... > >> - Other reverse domain names *really* should

Re: Urgent: Regarding Java package name change to org.apache.*

> > > On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:25, Alex Harui wrote: > > OK, so to summarize a more refined recommendation: > > 1) package names with reverse domains MUST be renamed before graduation or > have an IPMC approved plan for renaming NetBeans uses org.netbeans, and the

Re: Project informal discussion

You should also checkout something like Graal and Truffle https://github.com/graalvm/graal/blob/master/truffle/README.md Wade On Jul 18, 2017 02:01, "Jochen Theodorou" wrote: > On 18.07.2017 02:53, Harrison & Wells wrote: > >> # I'm just a beginner here, please ignore any

Re: ASF hosted binaries collecting user data without an explicit opt-in

NetBeans has various anonymous data collections such as UI gestures and actions logging, and optional uploading, sort of like GA, which tells us what is or is not being used, auto update, exception reporting, driven by users deciding to send anonymously or login to attach their name, which I do

Re: Slack

to go Open Source[1]. > > [1]: https://venturebeat.com/2017/03/15/gitlab-acquires- > software-chat-startup-gitter-will-open-source-the-code/ > > > Phil > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Wade Chandler <wadechand.

Re: Slack

gt;> >> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 3:40 pm, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Wade, >>> >>> You are right: invite people on Slack means adding them as member. >>> >>> However, how can we accept Sl

Re: Slack

My understanding is there isn’t a max limit on Slack for users for free, and I have confirmed this with Slack there is not supposed to be a limitation on numbers of members. NetBeans for instance has 320 members. Did someone tell you this or did you run into some issue? If so, you might write

Re: [VOTE] Drop incubating requirement of Maven artifacts

On Jan 4, 2017 4:46 AM, "Jochen Theodorou" wrote: On 04.01.2017 07:28, Mark Struberg wrote: [...] I'm a bit surprised that groovy still uses the org.codehaus groupId, but I > guess they have a deal with Ben (the former owner and thus (former?) > copyright holder of

Re: [VOTE] Drop incubating requirement of Maven artifacts

On Jan 3, 2017 7:06 AM, "Guillaume Laforge" wrote: When you say "it denotes a lack of maturity which is exactly the purpose AFAIK", what do you mean my maturity? Maturity in terms of how well it follows Apache processes and principles? Or in terms of "the project is not ready

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

is a good way to lure people back (or scare away!). > > The downside is that participation requires login with Twitter or GitHub, > which some communities might have reasonable objections to. > > On 4 Nov 2016 2:33 am, "Wade Chandler" <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > >

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

For the NetBeans community we had been using IRC, but then setup Slack, and it has seen an uptick over IRC which per logging and notifications had been harder to support and stay connected. We setup a sign up bot at https://netbeans.signup.team, and we also have a chat room hooked/bridged to our

Re: Permission to edit the Incubator wiki on behalf of Apache NetBeans

Thanks John === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:20, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > Done, happy editing! > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:16 AM Wade Chandler <cons...@wadechandler.com> > wrot

Permission to edit the Incubator wiki on behalf of Apache NetBeans

, and perhaps it will take us a couple times to get in the hang of this. My wiki user name is wadechandler. Thanks much, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com

Re: NetBeans next steps

Thanks John and Gj! Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Oct 3, 2016, at 06:25, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > OK, thanks, will work with Wade and others who may be encountering this. > > Gj

Re: NetBeans next steps

I have sent in my ICLA, and I received an acknowledgement it was received and filed in the records. I have not received any other to suggest an ID was created. When does that usually happen? Not a rush, but just so I know the protocol. Thanks Wade On Oct 1, 2016 11:35 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"

Re: Reuse Maven repository more was: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings

On Sep 28, 2016 5:55 AM, "Sven Reimers" wrote: > > > 2. Use Maven repository as storahe backend for the plugin portal, so that > only the metadata is hosted at the portal not the module binaries.. > I think the terminology here is key. A "storage backend" for plugins.n.o.

Re: [VOTE] Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator

tBeans team) > 8. *Viktor Lapitsky* (dev/deployment/debug) > > * Individual contributors from NetBeans Dream Team. > 1. Aljoscha Rittner (ETable/Outline component features) > 2. Andreas Stefik (accessibility features) > 3. *Anton Epple* (DukeScript plugin from Dukehoff) >

Re: Radical proposal: no initial list of committers

On Sep 27, 2016 10:44 AM, "Gregory Chase" wrote: > > Having been through this with Apache Geode, I like the idea of paying > homage to emeritus committers in the proposal and history of the > technology. If you start with a rule of providing committer privileges to > those who

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Sep 24, 2016 9:51 AM, "Emilian Bold" wrote: > > Which brings us to another question: > > If the commits just referenced a bugzilla ticket, do we also like to > > migrate the bugzilla content over? > > Or at least keep it browsable somewhere? > > > > I would want to keep

Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings (was: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal)

First, I think we need to see the data you are referring to. Anecdotally the NB community seems to be growing. We are certainly competing with more projects such as VS Code and others in recent years. However, given reviews over the past many years of Java IDEs, NB has consistently been in the top

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Phone top posting: I agree plugins are a huge part of NetBeans success; you need them for Gradle support as an example. Sure, you can install them outside the portal, but it is a pain for most. What ever you all are able to do is greatly appreciated; whether now or soon, and whether that is an

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

ting rules, then you are in 2) if you were already submitting patches to “show you know what you are doing” per the current rules, then you are in 3) if you were not an active contributor, then you have to step up and show merit.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Sep 21, 2016 4:15 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Mark Struberg > wrote: > > ...Please note that during the incubation people need to either show that they > > are eager to engage with the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

acle.com/technetwork/oca-faq-405384.pdf <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oca-faq-405384.pdf> Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

A Policy <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oca-faq-405384.pdf> page for more info. No code can be committed until a CA is completed.” http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oca-faq-405384.pdf <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oca-faq-405384.pdf> Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com <mailto:cons...@wadechandler.com>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

mber who likes students and new programmer users to be able to get up and running quickly without having to have as many pre-requisites; this is handy for trainers as well. Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

Technically NetBeans is both an RCP, first technically, and an IDE, so it is a library, and an application, but no, there is no separate TCK. All the tests are in the build infrastructure you get when you clone the repository. There are some infrastructure things which the community uses to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

dingly we might loose our 501(c) status. > > The same is btw true for other non-for-profit OSS foundations, even if > they don't realise it (and then get beaten up by IRS). > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 14 September 2016, 20:40, Roma

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

perhaps? If so, does the donor have as much impact on contributions as that once adopted by Apache? I may be misunderstanding what you are asking. I am not an employee of Oracle; just an NB contributor. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Sep 14, 2016, at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

> > On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:38, Wade Chandler <cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote: > >> >> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org >> <mailto:humbed...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >> On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wi

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing lists >> (well, not always, >> sometimes we've had syncing problems). My feeling is that since

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

On Sep 14, 2016, at 04:02, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:22 PM, David Nalley wrote: ...SIR03 Migration of plugin publication system, plugins.netbeans.org, to Apache infrastructure >> >> This looks to be an