Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-04 Thread Thomas Mahler
Hi Geir, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/3/02 6:01 PM, Thomas Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think db.apache.org is a great idea. And we will be happy to be part of it ! I was going to write to you to discuss the idea, but it's better to discuss here. I am glad to see that you

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like it), but out of curiosity, how is this sort of thing decided? I've seen no mention of this switch up to

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like it), but out of curiosity, how is this sort

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure someone else will manage it but some of the lists have zero entries, e.g. turbine-maven-dev I know, old problem. I'm regenerating the mbox indices now (which is going to make nagoya very slow for a bit, btw). Dan,

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
petite_abeille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed here:

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) BTW, the content of that page, is right... I mean, I've been around since more or less Jon has (probably couple of months less?

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

2002-05-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
It is the same installation, we just switched ports and maybe daniel is reindexing stuff around... Pier Daniel Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to the one at http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/eyebrowse/ViewLists It had all the lists archived instead of the few that are

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) _freze_ how kool ;-)! Greets Gerhard - Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) -Andy On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 08:51, Pier Fumagalli wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :)

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/4/02 8:51 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) There is a better one out there, which I think captures a

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/4/02 9:26 AM, Martin Poeschl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/4/02 3:41 AM, Thomas Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Geir, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/3/02 6:01 PM, Thomas Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think db.apache.org is a great

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... -Andy On Sat,

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Naw I'd like to see an httpd-like answer to object-oriented-databases one day. Rather a name that deosn't preclude it... -Andy We have some time now. I was thinking about this during yoga (I started yoga. It's very cool. I wasn't supposed to be thinking about anything but my 'wisdom

RE: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Hey Jeff, I can agree with all you say but I don't understand why you throw this on my direction. I have been defending the existence of competing projects since the Tomcat 3.3 versus Tomcat 4 wars until my most recent posts at the commons-dev list. Maybe you do not follow the same lists I

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002

Re: while we were having a few irrelevant conversations...reallybad stuff was happening..

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The link is fixed now. On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 23:22, Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: http://www3.usermagnet.com/nl/jlnews_20020503.html Rick Ross just got subpoenaed by Microsoft. For what? From what I can tell writing mean things like I stand with Sun or something. Kinda

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ehh, just don't take it seriously when you go after him like a mad dog. I find myself balancing between saying amen to everything he says and going after him like a mad dog. Perhaps I over did it this time...oh well. always have a real angle... collaboration and integration rulez:

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Andy, I generally agree with what says in the page you pointed to. When I disagree with what Jon says I push back and when I agree I am not afraid of saying so. If you read my recent postings here you will notice I generally agree with Jon about the Velocity vs. XSLT issue. OTOH I tend to

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, Jon, how does it feel to be a philosophy in a human form? Must be pretty kool, uh? ;-) Have nice a weekend. BTW: ...28?C in Vienna and sunny. Yeah...Time to go out and spend the evening with friends... Greets Gerhard Horngren's Observation (generalized): The real world is a special case.

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. We each do things our own way. Maybe we can put this thread to bed? geir Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson

RE: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Ok. I am glad you understood it, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:40 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is.

Re: Maven is growing

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
aww but I was hoping everyone would go look at the integrated Maven cent first. ;-) Oh well maybe Jon will go criticize it on monday and then everyone will look at it too ;-) On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 14:39, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-04 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Sorry, didn't intend to throw the whole mail at you. I haven't been around as long as you (probably a little over a year), but this is one of my favorite lists. It's far more entertaining than television :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paulo Gaspar

Why is the homepage blank??

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ummm... jakarta.apache.org brings up a blank page. I thought it was my connection but jakarta.apache.org/poi and /ant for example seem fine... I'm going to see what I can do. . . let me know if someone is already working on it.. -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi

disregard... I must be imagining things

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Mozilla went south for a little while and I didn't see the file... But it looks okay now. sorry for the alarm. -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java

New Mail List : Proposed db/dataaccess project discussion list.

2002-05-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
There is a now a mail list setup (thanks Sam!) for discussion of the dataaccess/db project. To subscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and respond to the response. (the usual routine) Tomorrow morning I'll post a summary of status so far. I had some positive feedback from Dirk-Wilhem