Re: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-10 Thread Santiago Gala
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Danny Angus wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:45:48 +0100 From: Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule So,

RE: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Tom Copeland
Since we're OT already, I have to interject a good Jamie Zawinski database quote: === It was a hard sell, since he's a database person, and as far as I've seen, once those database worms eat into your brain, it's hard to ever get anything practical done again. To a database person, every

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Steve Downey
From Scott Adams Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database. Dilbert: We could put it on the network! PHB: Wouldn't you like to know what the problem is first? Dilbert: We like databases. Databases get used in lots of wrongheaded ways. No argument. But OO people tend to fall into the

About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread A. Gunes Koru
Dear Andy, First of all, I would prefer to discuss these matters individually not on the list. However, because you are sending e-mails to the list I need to write it to the list too. I am also in this list and I don't see the number of surveys blooming. This is totally an incorrect

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Just goes to show you. A sad comment on software development: The only thing worse than our still crappy tools for doing things are our crappy methods of doing them. -Andy On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:38, Steve Downey wrote: From Scott Adams Wally: I recommedend we build a tracking database.

Re: About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:39, A. Gunes Koru wrote: Dear Andy, First of all, I would prefer to discuss these matters individually not on the list. However, because you are sending e-mails to the list I need to write it to the list too. Then you might have taken my smartassed remarks

Re: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming, of course, that you can't have commercial software that *is* open source :-). Such models do exist -- so I'm assuming you are primarily talking about closed source commercial software. This is a very meaningful distinctions. IMO, the

Re: About bug handling survey

2002-10-10 Thread A. Gunes Koru
On 10 Oct 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:39, A. Gunes Koru wrote: I am also in this list and I don't see the number of surveys blooming. This is totally an incorrect statement. The e-mails I sent is related to the questions at the very heart of development. So, if

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Daniel Rall wrote: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 8/10/02 1:30 am, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2002/10/7 5:21 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSPs are the root of all evil because HTMLers think to have the power (and

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Nick Chalko wrote: -Original Message- From: Rich Persaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? Preferred pain is a known pain with an experience-based cap. New and