Re: fair notice

2003-03-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Doh! someone just sent this to me. I didn't notice the date! thanks for pointing that out. Theoretically I suppose you could patent OLE 2 Compound document format... Bad way to aggregate objects into a mock filesystem inside of a file Glad its old news! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/3/03 6:53 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history of Tomcat

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Hans Bergsten
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 12/3/03 6:53 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history of

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 20:20 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec... You can raise and discuss your

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 02:53 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 12/3/03 6:53 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API specs

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 23:32 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I *think* that you should be able to discuss the issues with any ASF member, if you are representing the ASF on the EG, not just other EG members. We all are bound by the agreements made by the ASF. In fact I post my concerns

re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Rich Persaud
| As you are on the EG yourself, you know how hard it is to have one word | removed from the next revision of the spec once it gets in :-) | | Just thinking out loud... | | Pier When a culture of discussion comes into conflict with a culture of bureaucracy, debate is not an optimal change

re: JCP NDA (was: too many similar projects?)

2003-03-16 Thread Rich Persaud
| Software history is replete with creation of new economic tiers. Even | open-source has it's GPL, BSD and countless other camplets. If an | existing organization can't serve multiple audiences, is there room and | reason for a supplemental one? | | | You mean is there room for the

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Hans Bergsten
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 16/3/03 20:20 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec... You can raise and

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/3/03 1:24 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that there's been problem with the Servlet EG this time around, but what I'm saying is that there are avenues that we _could_ have used to voice our concerns, but we didn't for some reason. There are a number of mailing lists and