RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

I would still prefer having both around. There are users and committers for each that are not willing to move to the other. IMO, community rules. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

are big blocks of indivisible code. Maybe the way to go is just to move such components to the Commons. Why not moving Intake now? Maybe this issue needs regulation, but this kind of think tends to work better if you use the carrot before applying the whip. =;o) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM > > > On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > If you start at the top of the thread,

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> I was just using it as a platform for the topic I really want to discuss. Go for the topic. =:o) I think that we are already discussing that topic but POI is now becoming more of a distraction than an example. Name the topic and I will try not to get distracted. =;o) Have fun, Paulo > ---

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:09 PM > > ... > > When do you decide to actually step up and try to make a change? I hope > it's *before* the outside perception of Jakarta changes from that > of a place of hig

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> Or maybe "we" should just recognize that use of those terms is relatively > arbitrary for many (most?) of the jakarta projects and throw it away > completely? That is exactly what I think. Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, Ja

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

documents in a CLIENT device??? However, of course that I want to write such formats on a SERVER device without any MS stuff (Linux), so that clients WITH MS software installed can read them. Your examples represent rare needs. Not impossible, but quite improbable. > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Again... > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:14 PM > > On 1/6/02 12:11 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... Lots of "is it server or is it client" t

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

ce that has not Word or Excel installed??? And AFAIK, if you have Word and Excel, you have at least some Basic scripting... but maybe you do not have Java. > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

vergence of > the proposal of multiple client side projects when java on the client side > is becoming a much more interesting space to work. I had that opinion, but when I started imagining what I would use it for I found that I had LESS client side uses for it than for Velocity! =;o) > > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

Answer inline > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM > > > ... > > > >I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by > >this article: > >http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 > > >

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

cy is the worst form of Government except all those others that have been. ) Relax and have fun, organic growing works or we wouldn't be here! Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:01 AM &g

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

interests on the 4.x side. Either way, the main focus is on 4.x now and I do not see any ongoing flame wars on the Tomcat lists. Everybody wants its success. IMO it is better to stop feeding the flaming and let it die. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott S

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

This is obvious from the "jakarta-commons" growing activity. More when you compare it with "xml-commons". Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:35 PM > > ... > > My feeling is that communities need a critica

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

finding out how much server side POI really is!!! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 3:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

RE: Jakarta Status [was Code conventions]

commitment and support for it. (IMO Stefano record looks great. It only makes it better that he knows how and to whom to delegate responsibilities.) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:14 PM &g

RE: Code conventions

I am sure Gerhard can give a better answer, but IMHO he abused a lot the system. The truth is that it can happen anywhere if people are not very alert and ready to fight for their rights. It could even happen in the USA and it is quite dangerous to think otherwise (because then you are not alert

RE: Code conventions

In the process Hitler and his gang played a surprisingly high number of dirty tricks. Surprising at least for a non German, since we only get an overview of the WW2 history. Since I work in Germany I have the benefit of the many documentaries about the Nazi era played on TV (history is not forgot

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

support the indexing of specific document formats... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

You are right. I agree 100% with what you say here. My remark is no argument. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:35 PM > > > on 1/3/02 10:15 AM, "Paulo Gaspar&quo

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

popular document formats! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:16 PM > > > On 1/3/02 8:21 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Andrew, Jon "forgot" to send you this link: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html This is Jon by Jon (he wrote that page). This does NOT mean that Jon is wrong. It just means that he is not the most diplomatic person around. Try to get the juice from his argumentation and ignore the less

RE: cvs commit: jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/site/xdocsant.xml

And this tool might help on formatting the code according to (whatever) standards you want to follow: http://jrefactory.sourceforge.net/cspretty.html Have fun, Paulo Gaspar http://www.krankikom.de http://www.ruhronline.de > -Original Message- > From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:

RE: Another Comment for Apache.org

He might have used automatic translation. I recently had to read a Japanese web page translated to English that way and it sounded just the same. Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7

RE: Comment for Apache.org

> The list is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I suggest the creation of such mailing list and the creation of a "Jon" page explaining the whole "Jon issue"... linked from Jakarta's home page, of course. This way we can save the newbies and Jon can keep being... er... Jo

RE: Comment for Apache.org

> He's busy these days, so we can all take turns proxying for > him, with the caveat that you have to work hard on Jakarta stuff like he > does to be a proxy. Who are you trying to fool? You would be never able to impersonate him!!! =;o) Paulo P.S.: And I am not talking about working hard. >

RE: Comment for Apache.org

Man! This is even worse then MY flame wars with Jon! =;o) Have fun, Paulo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: Comment for Apache.org

Yes, Jon could improve the package deal a lot if he wanted (just by cutting the minus side of it) but it does not look like it is going to happen. And I still prefer having him around than the alternative. Just my 2 (Euro) cents. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- >

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

Java, Ceki is THE authority, isn't he? =:o/ Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:38 PM > > > on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Mailing lists problem...

I am receiving no mail from any Apache mailling list for a couple of days. I am also getting no answer from the mailling list management robot. Do you know what is happening? Thanks, Paulo Gaspar P.S.: I do not have access from my usual mail address at paulo.gaspar at krankikom.de

Mailing lists problem...

I am receiving no mail from any Apache mailling list for a couple of days. I am also getting no answer from the mailling list management robot. Do you know what is happening? Thanks, Paulo Gaspar - To unsubscribe, e-mail

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:14 AM > > ... > > ...Given your defensive nature I now question even more the > ability of you and your project to thrive in this open arena. Jumping to conclusions about the persona

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:33 AM > > ... > > ... Why are you so threatened by this ? Jumping to conclusions about the motivations of someone else is a way of getting personal. That is always counterproductiv

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:54 PM > > I am sorry but what insult are you referring to? Calling someone's hard-worked project ".bomb", without even trying to get informed about it. Does this qualify? Have fun

RE: ASPizer

Jon, This is a nice entry for the FAQ you are talking about. It is quite reasonable and all. Copying and pasting this somewhere and putting the corresponding question before it is better than nothing and you get an URL to use next time the problem pops up. I quite like your well tempered writin

RE: ASPizer

of disrespect. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASPizer > > > > Endre, > > Although Jon might not be the most pol

RE: ASPizer

Don't freak out Paul. Jon is just being his usual self. OTOH, he is the only Apache member I am aware of with this kind of "self". Have fun, Paulo http://www.krankikom.de http://www.ruhronline.de > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday,

RE: [OT] Servlets better for most companies!

ior. (these cost exactly $0.0)... I have seen this a lot (not at my current employer). Even when you have an Open Source solution really WORKING to show, dumb managers will still deny using it. Dilbertian logic rules on corporate live. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message

RE: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

> ... and don't do the usual embrace and > extend [and extinguish] or lock up pieces with patents... Yeah... that would be a first time for M$. =;o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr. > > .. >

RE: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

e that is a way of not taking responsibility for the quality of the tools and standards used in one's work - and hence the work itself; - Stupid because one ends up in bigger trouble that way. If we would all agree using whatever is pushed stronger in our direction, we would all be using Microso

RE: Jakarta-tools ? Re: Code Sharing Concepts

Makes loads on sense to me. Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 19:02 > > > > Every commiter in jakarta projects has made contributions and won his > > privilege. > &

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