Don't freak out Paul. Jon is just being his usual self. OTOH, he is the only Apache member I am aware of with this kind of "self".
Have fun, Paulo http://www.krankikom.de http://www.ruhronline.de > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 8:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ASPizer > > > Tbanks for the constructive criticism, Jon. > > Paul. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:30 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Ranjit Mathew; Arnab Ghosh > > Subject: Re: ASPizer > > > > > > on 10/15/01 11:15 AM, "Paul Ilechko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Peter and Jon, thanks for the feedback, sorry I didn't get a > > chance to respond > > > sooner. > > > > > > A few comments: > > > > > > ASPizer is currently a production quality product, and in fact > > is being used > > > on a live website in the UK. It was developed as a product by > > THBS, with the > > > intention that we would sell it. However, due to various > > economic factors such > > > as the decline in the ASP market and the recent difficulties in > > obtaining > > > venture capital, we have decided that at this time it is not > > feasible for is > > > to continue in that direction. > > > > We aren't a dumping ground for .bomb projects. > > > > > We do think that ASPizer is an interesting product that has a > > strong synergy > > > with some existing Apache technologies. We intend to continue > to provide > > > development support, and we have no problem to committing 3 > > developers in an > > > ongoing basis. As far as getting an Apache "champion", I'm not > > sure how we go > > > about that - I was hoping someone would be interested enough to > > follow up > > > based on the proposal that we submitted. > > > > Exactly. > > > > > As far as the user community is concerned, we believe that > there are two > > > primary groups - > > > > > > 1. ASP related companies, including ISVs developing for the > ASP market, > > > Aggregators who assemble packages of applications, and Hosting > > providers, > > > > > > 2. Corporate users that run internal IT in an ASP-like way, > or who have > > > external clients accessing their systems (we have had > > preliminary discussions > > > with a couple of the latter). > > > > > > We would be able to support early-adopter clients during the > > initial period of > > > the product being made available, we are willing to commit to > > at least two > > > years. > > > > I'm confused. How can you commit two years when you can't get > funding for > > your business? > > > > > ASPizer may have some overlap with Turbine, but it is quite a > different > > > product. My understanding is that Turbine is basically a tool to help > > > developers build web applications, whereas ASPizer is more of > a platform > > > extension. With ASPizer it is possible to configure an > > application to run in > > > an ASP model, including security, billing and licensing, > > without actually > > > changing the application at all (so in fact you can even > > "ASPize" a non-J2EE > > > application), although using the APIs provides a much more > > granular set of > > > facilities. We are also currently working on making ASPizer > > available as a set > > > of web services. > > > > The use of the term 'security' is very broad in your example. > > > > BTW, I wrote an ASPizer as well...it is called Noodle. LOL! > > > > http://noodle.tigris.org > > > > :-) > > > > > We will be happy to provide code and documentation for anyone who is > > > interested in digging deeper. > > > > Good luck. > > > > :-) > > > > -jon > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
