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> > On 7/11/01 12:29 PM, "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The XML PMC has voted to
ould like to use Anakia to generate the docs, is this acceptable?
> I already have the docs converted to Anakia so I'd like to use
> what I have.
>
> > Ted
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> > From: "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[E
e to use
what I have.
> Ted
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> From: "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:12 AM
> Subject: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta
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>> Does anyone else from xml.a
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> Does anyone else from xml.apache.org have any feedback on this proposal
> one way or the other?
>
> Ted
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> From: "Sam
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> [ ]Craig McClanahan
Just getting back from vacation, I've read this thread and tend to agree
with the general consensus that it belongs more on the xml.apache.org side
of the house, for several reasons:
* This particular implementation is written in
on 7/6/01 6:54 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool, so can we coordinate next week sometime. Maybe toward the
> end of the week we can populate the repository?
Doesn't this have to be approved by the XML PMC first?
-jon (not knowing what the decision "over there" was...)
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>> On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
One caveat. Let the XML PMC have it's vote on this. I'm sending the vote
request in 2 minutes.
Ted
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On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>> Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that
>> the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes
>> and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> on 7/5/01 5:52 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on
>> daedalus!)
>
> And because CollabNet has to pay for that...
Comes straight out of your paycheck? :) :)
>> [ ]Jon Stevens
>
>-0
>
>It seems like xml.apache.org should be the place, but I really don't care
>where it lives that much cause we can always move projects around if we need
>to. I do think that if it goes to xml.apache.org it should be a top level
>project.
I feel about the same. xml.apa
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that
> the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes
> and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than
> we can discuss the possible integration with Axis.
>
>
on 7/5/01 5:52 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on
> daedalus!)
And because CollabNet has to pay for that...
-jon
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Peter Donald at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> And if there are things you don't like (say a site skin with waay
> too many graphics) then you will be in a better position to change them ;)
Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on
daedalus!)
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Ted Leung at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that
>> the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes
>> and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than
>> we can discuss the possible inte
Peter Donald wrote:
>
> And if there are things you don't like (say a site skin with waay
> too many graphics) then you will be in a better position to change them ;)
>
That's the really positive thing about xml-axis. They dumped
ll those graphics...
geir
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:30, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Would anyone else on the Jakarta PMC care to vote?
>
> I think there are 10 Jakarta PMC members can we get a quick
> vote. So if anyone else has a -1 than that will put an end
> to the proposal, right? We need 8/10 for the 3/4 minimum so
> one more
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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:36 AM
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> On 7/5/01 1:08 PM, "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
I believed that xml.apache.org was the appropriate place to try first,
and if it can find a happy home there, I still think thats appropriate.
However, this is a living community, not just a code base - Hannes and
co-conspirators are coming with it. Therefore, I think top level in xml
would be n
At this stage my vote is not very relevant but just to say that I followed the
discussion.
I vote 0 (blank).
Regards, Ceki
At 10:08 05.07.2001 -0700, you wrote:
>on 7/5/01 7:30 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> [ ]Jon Stevens
>
>-0
>
>It seems like xml.apache.org should be
he rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than
we can discuss the possible integration with Axis.
Does this sound reasonable?
> Ted Leung
> Chair XML PMC
>
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> From: "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[E
on 7/5/01 7:30 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ ]Jon Stevens
-0
It seems like xml.apache.org should be the place, but I really don't care
where it lives that much cause we can always move projects around if we need
to. I do think that if it goes to xml.apache.org it should be
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Subject: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta
> On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> To put it right upfront, I d
On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for
>> xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain.
>
> Even though I see your point, I
On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for
>> xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain.
>
> Even though I see your point, I
Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for
> xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain.
Even though I see your point, I'd still prefer seeing it over in XML
alongside with the other technologies
On 7/4/01 10:04 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hannes Wallnoefer wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>
> Short and simple: -1. Good luck getting 3/4 approval...
>
> Want to change my vote?
I don't think there's anything to change. You decided what you what
you wanted very shortly after the prop
[ My non-voting, highly irrelevant, self-obsessed opinion follows ]
> To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for
> xml.apache.org,
Possibly, but the argument is whether or not it is a more natural fit
for Jakarta.
> XML-RPC is a protocol that has been explicitly frozen
Hannes Wallnoefer wrote:
>
> [snip]
Short and simple: -1. Good luck getting 3/4 approval...
Want to change my vote? Demonstrate some signs that you are willing to
work with others, or are at least aware of related work. Criticize SOAP or
the Apache implementation thereof if you like - I can t
ers,
Hannes
> Von: robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wednesday, July 4, 2001, at 05:19 AM, Ian Kallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
On Wednesday, July 4, 2001, at 05:19 AM, Ian Kallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> My unsolicited opinion: projects focused on the manipulation and
> purveyance of
> data as XML could/should belong in the xml.apache.org project while
> implementations of Java technologies associate with Jakarta
My unsolicited opinion: projects focused on the manipulation and purveyance of
data as XML could/should belong in the xml.apache.org project while
implementations of Java technologies associate with Jakarta. There's
nothing Java specific about XML-RPC and SOAP (buh, that's the point). If I h
On 7/3/01 8:56 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>> You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
>> interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
>> XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have
>> been u
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
> interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
> XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have
> been using XML-RPC for a long while now and it's simple and works
> grea
On 7/3/01 8:34 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>> I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name.
>> Fair enough. You've had two people so far.
>
> Not fair. I can't speak for others, but I am an active committer on
> xml-soap and xm
On 7/3/01 8:10 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>> xml.apache.org.
>
> I agree 100% with Sam...
Again, that's an unqualified response. I responsed to Sam when he
clarified
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name.
> Fair enough. You've had two people so far.
Not fair. I can't speak for others, but I am an active committer on
xml-soap and xml-apache (two different projects only in the sense that
Tomcat 3 and 4
Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
> xml.apache.org.
I agree 100% with Sam...
Pier
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On 7/3/01 4:36 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>>> xml.apache.org.
>>
>> Reasons?
>
> The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap. This restructuring
> was initiated with the expressed
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>> xml.apache.org.
>
> Reasons?
The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap. This restructuring
was initiated with the expressed intent of providing a foundation for
supporting multiple protocols, incl
Jason makes a very good point.
I believe we could see XML-RPC become a integral
component to other jakarta projects.
Terry McBride
--- Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/3/01 11:27 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I strongly believe that any any such nomination
>
On 7/3/01 11:27 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
> xml.apache.org.
Reasons?
It does use XML, sure, but it is primarily a set of servers and
clients which I think fits in more with Jakarta. It's an XML
technology, but so is
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
> (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package
> is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.
>
> T
on 7/3/01 7:19 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
> (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package
> is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to
>I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
>(http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package
>is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
>Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.
>
>There is an active community based around t
I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
xml.apache.org.
- Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/03/2001 10:19:36 AM
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