Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
Is there some other e-mail list where we should should discuss the xjavadoc licensing issue? infrastructure? Or...??? Thanks, Erik On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 08:54 AM, Aslak Hellesøy wrote: Hello, The XDoclet project (http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net/) is considering applying for

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Costin Manolache
Aslak Hellesøy wrote: The XDoclet project (http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net/) is considering applying for Jakarta/Apache membership. Glad to hear that ! We believe that these differences are sufficient in order to avoid potential licensing problems with Sun. I'm not sure I understand

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
i think that licensing would be the right list to ask on. i believe that XDoclet would now have to be incubated (rather than going straight into jakarta). i think that one of the functions of the incubation process would be to give definite answers on these kinds of questions. - robert On

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 01:27 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i believe that XDoclet would now have to be incubated (rather than going straight into jakarta). i think that one of the functions of the incubation process would be to give definite answers on these kinds of questions.

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: We believe that these differences are sufficient in order to avoid potential licensing problems with Sun. I'm not sure I understand where the licensing problems would come from. Are you using any code from javadoc or Sun ? Are

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread gregorys
Has anyone just asked Sun for their official stance on the matter? Quoting Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: We believe that these differences are sufficient in order to avoid potential licensing problems with Sun. I'm

RE: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Aslak Hellesøy
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Costin Manolache Sent: 26. mars 2003 18:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing Aslak Hellesøy wrote: The XDoclet project (http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net/) is considering

RE: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Aslak Hellesøy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26. mars 2003 20:00 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing Has anyone just asked Sun for their official stance on the matter? No. I'd love to ask them, but I

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
No, not implementing any JavaDoc API at all. I think the main issue is that the API mirrors the com.sun.* API in terms of the source code model that it builds. *http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/j2sdk-1_4_1_02-license.html 4. Java Technology Restrictions.* You may not modify the Java Platform

RE: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Aslak Hellesøy
-Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26. mars 2003 20:10 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing No, not implementing any JavaDoc API at all. I think the main issue is that the API mirrors

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ok, that's a bunch of stuff we're not allowed to do (regarding package names), and AFAICT we (XJavaDoc) are not doing any of that. What's your point Andy? Someone said that you were mirroring the com.sun packages.. Is that bad? I showed that it was. If you're not, then obviously it doesn't

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Ok, that's a bunch of stuff we're not allowed to do (regarding package names), and AFAICT we (XJavaDoc) are not doing any of that. What's your point Andy? Someone said that you were mirroring the com.sun packages.. Is that

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Someone said that you were mirroring the com.sun packages.. Is that bad? I showed that it was. If you're not, then obviously it doesn't apply. We mirror by having an API that looks similar in its class hierarchy, but that is the only similarity. Different package names, etc. IANAL, AFAIK

XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-25 Thread Aslak Hellesøy
Hello, The XDoclet project (http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net/) is considering applying for Jakarta/Apache membership. Before we get into that process, we'd like to clarify some licensing issues we think we might have. XJavaDoc (a sub project of XDoclet) is a library that parses Java source files