A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Scott Eade
About a month ago a discussion occurred over on turbine-user/dev about the possibility of setting up a wiki to use for creating ad hoc documentation as well as a place to develop more formal documentation that might perhaps later be converted to xdoc for direct inclusion in the actual project

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
I haven't used JSPWiki, but I have used the Python-based MoinMoin and really, really like it. I just took a quick look at JSPWiki and I wouldn't be surprised if it's feature set is based on MoinMoin (or vice-versa, it's always hard to tell). It helps with discussions, and provides a temporary

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yes! In fact POI uses this to generate Record and Type classes from XML descriptors. You can't imagine how much typing this saves! Danny Angus wrote: Come on. Does anyone really *like* XSL? Actually after a lot of scepticism I now like XSLT. But like everything else it stinks if its

O'Reilly Network: Why JSP Sucks So Hard

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/2423 -Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: O'Reilly Network: Why JSP Sucks So Hard

2002-12-20 Thread Conor MacNeill
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/2423 Yawn. Not another JSP Sux discussion :-( Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: O'Reilly Network: Why JSP Sucks So Hard

2002-12-20 Thread Punky Tse
Coincidentially, I had this one in my 'blogs: http://www.punknix.com/weblogs.html#Is%20JSP%20Really%20Suck? - Punky Andrew C. Oliver wrote: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/2423 -Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 18:21, Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of this, what I would

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Scott Eade wrote: So how about some feedback: 1. Wiki's - love 'em or hate 'em? Love 'em, and think they would provide (a) a good way to write ad hoc documentation, (b) a good way to host certain discussions. At my day job we use an internal wiki for documentation almost

RE: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Tom Copeland
Love 'em. Let's pick one and set it up... they're very cool tom -Original Message- From: Rodney Waldhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:36 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: A Jakarta wiki? On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Scott Eade wrote: So

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Leo Simons wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 18:21, Sam Ruby wrote: Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging grin). Considering all of

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm using the PERL one for several wikis including the TriJUG one (http://trijug.org)... It took 5 minutes to set up and requires just rights to some place on the file system. So far no admin... http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/jugwiki.pl I tested for dumb things like encoding file

Re: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering all of this, what I would like to propose is that the contents of jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump get moved to jakarta-gump, all committers to any jakarta code base be given karma and voting rights on the full contents

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread O'brien, Tim
A non-member, non-commiter, doc patch submitter with three questions here, Would this Wiki be limited to those with commit status? If not, how does this jive with the whole merit-based Apache-way? Does a public wiki have any legal ramifications for ASF? If Wiki is open to the public and

New Preprocessing tool

2002-12-20 Thread didge
Folks, Ever needed cross platform file preprocessing integrated with Ant? Then please check out VPP, the Velocity Preprocessor, at http://vpp.sourceforge.net. VPP provides three useful tools that integrate Velocity and Ant: * VPPFilter - a FilterReader implementation of Velocity * VPP - an

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Scott Eade
Andrew, ACTION is good mm'kay. I think we should at least consider a Java based wiki: - JSPWiki at http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp is used by Cocoon (I installed this locally and had it running in about 5 minutes). - Micael mentioned Chiki (http://chiki.emaho.org/) - this looks pretty

Re: New Preprocessing tool

2002-12-20 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/20 4:00 PM, didge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Ever needed cross platform file preprocessing integrated with Ant? Then please check out VPP, the Velocity Preprocessor, at http://vpp.sourceforge.net. VPP provides three useful tools that integrate Velocity and Ant: *

RE: New Preprocessing tool

2002-12-20 Thread didge
After reading up regarding licensing a bit more, I'm going to consider switching to an ASF or BSD license. Shouldn't matter much right now because I don't think anyone is planning to redistribute this :) I'll add something about what goes in the context to the docs. For those who can't wait,

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
O'brien, Tim wrote: A non-member, non-commiter, doc patch submitter with three questions here, Would this Wiki be limited to those with commit status? If not, how does this jive with the whole merit-based Apache-way? Does a public wiki have any legal ramifications for ASF? If Wiki is open

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Sam Ruby
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver somewhere with filesystem access? Your definition of ACTION is AskSam? AFAIK, your authority and mine with respect to being able to execute

RE: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property

2002-12-20 Thread mwomack
+1 I didn't realize it was still a proposal. -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [discussion] jakarta-gump as community property Gump is now two years old. It has had

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 09:26 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: O'brien, Tim wrote: A non-member, non-commiter, doc patch submitter with three questions here, Would this Wiki be limited to those with commit status? If not, how does this jive with the whole merit-based Apache-way? Does a

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Lets not start with the FUD.. If it happens, we'll remove them. What if someone puts the detailed information on how to produce Anthrax, and hides the secret location of Osama Bin Ladin in a patch submitted which also brilliantly makes Velocity run 300x faster than it does currently so that

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 21/12/02 2:34 Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver somewhere with filesystem access? Your definition of ACTION is AskSam? AFAIK, your