On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 18:38, Ted Husted wrote:
> acoliver wrote:
> > I consider the statement "you just need to know where to look for" to be a
> > symptom of improper information organization. Such things should be *easy*
> > to find. Initiation into our community(ies?) has a higher barrier tha
On 3/5/02 10:40 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I suggest that a few people step up to volunteer to make JakartaOne happen
> because it isn't going to happen all by itself. :-) Maybe even setup another
> mailing list to do planning on so that people who are inte
Hey all,
I suggest that a few people step up to volunteer to make JakartaOne happen
because it isn't going to happen all by itself. :-) Maybe even setup another
mailing list to do planning on so that people who are interested in planning
can join it and discuss things. If people are going to spea
acoliver wrote:
> I consider the statement "you just need to know where to look for" to be a
> symptom of improper information organization. Such things should be *easy*
> to find. Initiation into our community(ies?) has a higher barrier than I
> prefer, you can never have too much or too well o
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 12:39:20PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You must realize that there are different objectives. It is the goal of
> > GNU to get all software to use the GPL. It is not a goal of Apache to
> > get all software covered by
Jeff,
Thanks for the link to this article. I found it to be well researched,
well written and instructive. The "quodque pro quo" twist is rather
elegant, perhaps too elegant. From the comments on this list, I think that
most programmers tend to ignore licensing considerations. Does boring
lawye
On 3/4/02 11:36 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea right ! You liar :-) Sounds too cool to be true :-) Of course this
> should be an all night session.
Definitely an all-nighter. :)
.:..:.:.:::.:::...:..:::.::.::...:::x180:james duncan davidson
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> "Jeff" == Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jeff> Here's a starting resource:
Jeff> http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a//policy/2001/12/12/transition.html
this link produced a (ouch) 500 response from oreilly. I was able to
find another link that worked:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub
>On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 14:09:23 Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote.
>"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>A lot of "what we think and why" is on the web already... It's in the mail
>archives, in the presentations to different conferences, and so on... The
>word is out there,
Ruslan
>yes, i understand, what using xerces or xalan is ok this way,
>but i have a different situation,
>
>i am including tomcat not as library but as host environment (my app - web
>application - is executing on top of it)
>
Ahh, you have a WAR file webapp that is GPLed and imports javax.servle
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From: "Paul Hammant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Licensing issues of distributing catalina tomcat with GPL
software
> Ruslan,
>
> Basically you will be in breach of the GPL if
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And anyway aren't licence issues beyond the remit of Jakarta?
>
> Practically anyone has a word on the matter, as members are listening, but
> the "legal" decision (and legal obligations, bindings, restri
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 07:39, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>> "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> You must realize that there are different objectives. It is the goal of
>>> GNU to get all software to use the GPL. It is not a goal of Apac
"Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And anyway aren't licence issues beyond the remit of Jakarta?
Practically anyone has a word on the matter, as members are listening, but
the "legal" decision (and legal obligations, bindings, restrictions,
yadayadayada) are a "privilege" of members of t
On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 07:39, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You must realize that there are different objectives. It is the goal of
> > GNU to get all software to use the GPL. It is not a goal of Apache to
> > get all software covered by the APL. We
Pier wrote:
> That's why I wouldn't be "that" comfortable with a "Why GPL sucks" page...
> Political propaganda? Looks really like it... And IMO that's not
> what we're
> here to do... We're here to write software...
+1 IMO The licence is there to empower us, its not a "product", its a
by-produc
Maybe it would be appropriate to direct questioners to
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/perens.html?
This O'Reilly page provides a brief overview of a few open source models
and offers a book for people with more in-depth questions.
Mike George
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From:
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You must realize that there are different objectives. It is the goal of
> GNU to get all software to use the GPL. It is not a goal of Apache to
> get all software covered by the APL. We're programmers, not lawyers.
That's why I wouldn't be "that
Send in a patch or write one it seems like you've researched the issue
beyond *it sucks*.
On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 06:16, Jeff Turner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a page somewhere at apache.org, explaining why anyone would want to
> switch from GPL to ASL? The GNU.org site paints a very inspiring pict
Hi,
Is there a page somewhere at apache.org, explaining why anyone would want to
switch from GPL to ASL? The GNU.org site paints a very inspiring picture of a
world of Free Software. It would be nice if there was an Apache equivalent
somewhere explaining the Apache philosophy. This could be used
Ruslan,
Basically you will be in breach of the GPL if you directly import Apache
software. If you can use Apache software via an approved API like SAX
then you are fine. GPL considers the SAX API as compatible and does not
care if it is Xerces being instantiated by the factory.
Assuming yo
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