Can we really store non Apache licensed jars in the CVS ?
My personal preference is to store no jars in CVS
For Example I noticed ognl stored in Tapestry CVS :
//--
//Copyright (c) 2002, Drew Davidson and Luke Blanshard
As I just happened to notice this on Incubator [AltRMI in fact]:
Is all source code distributed by the project covered by one or more of
the following approved licenses: Apache, BSD, Artistic, MIT/X, MIT/W3C,
MPL 1.1, or something with essentially the same terms?
The below is, to my quick
(I need to get a real sleep schedule)
http://www.apache.org/~bayard/japache/ is a list of all Java projects at
Apache that I found.
Am just pondering ways in which to display all of them on one site, and
thought I'd share.
Hen
Henri Yandell wrote:
(I need to get a real sleep schedule)
http://www.apache.org/~bayard/japache/ is a list of all Java projects at
Apache that I found.
Am just pondering ways in which to display all of them on one site, and
thought I'd share.
This is good. Since there is no single right way
In jakarta-tapestry/lib/ext lives all of the licenses of the embedded
3rd party libraries. In that directory is a LICENSE.ognl.txt which
contains the full license. I believe this is all that is needed to
satisfy the license to redistribute the binary version. I can assure
that you we
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El miércoles, 24 dici, 2003, a las 02:39 Europe/Madrid, Daniel F.
Savarese escribió:
[X] +1 I approve the release of jakarta-oro version 2.0.8.
[ ] -1 I do not approve the release of jakarta-oro version 2.0.8.
+1 From here.
Just another binding +1
On Dec 23, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
I know now may not be the best time to have a vote, but I would ask
the PMC to vote on approving the release of jakarta-oro 2.0.8.
The current code base contains important bug fixes and has gone too
long without a public release.
[ ] +1 I
My complaint is this:
Our current base of committers were led to believe they have binding
votes. We are now told this is not the case. The committers we now have
were all elected on the premise that they had binding votes and
oversight responsibilities for their codebase. They were in fact
On Dec 24, 2003, at 6:28 AM, Ted Husted wrote:
My complaint is this:
Our current base of committers were led to believe they have binding
votes. We are now told this is not the case. The committers we now
have were all elected on the premise that they had binding votes and
oversight
I am with Erik on no JARs in CVS. Unless it is a legal issue, I would certainly like to distribute
all JARs with the distribution. It saves a lot of hassle and keeps uncessary traffic out of the
user-list.
-Harish
Erik Hatcher wrote:
In jakarta-tapestry/lib/ext lives all of the licenses of
I apologize for not quoting. I'm experiencing technical difficulties and
making do the best I can.
I meant what I said. We must make an immediate, good faith effort to
correct the false and misleading information in the Jakarta guidelines,
and give all committers due notice of their true
Ted,
I think we must focus on what we agree on - it seems nobody is against
expanding the PMC to include most committers ( or all active committers
who don't decline ).
I'm not sure I understand Geir's current position, but I think he still
agrees we need to include most people. I don't think
Quoting Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I know now may not be the best time to have a vote, but I would ask
the PMC to vote on approving the release of jakarta-oro 2.0.8.
The current code base contains important bug fixes and has gone too
long without a public release.
[X] +1 I
(Again, sorry about the quoting.)
o·ver·sight
1. An unintentional omission or mistake.
2. Watchful care or management; supervision
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oversight
The board expects PMCs to exercise (2) so as to avoid (1). :)
For a PMC this boils down to issues of
Post a list of projects and get PMC people to volunteer to post reports,
chase up CLAs and improve PMC-to-non-PMC ratio, and record who has
volunteered. Keep going until all projects are covered by the minimum
number, which can be 1 to start with.
Hen
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
Erik
As for the larger issue of no JARs in CVS - I disagree.
I don't believe that there is room for opinion on this, the fact is it is possible for
people to download jars using viewcvs without having read the licence therefore it is
not acceptable.
UNLESS you have *specific* dispensation
I am with Erik on no JARs in CVS. Unless it is a legal issue, I
would certainly like to distribute
all JARs with the distribution.
In the case of most of the licences we'd be likely to consider in this context it is
usually perfectly OK to distribute Jars in a distribution because that
As both Roy and Greg have said, if the Jakarta committers truly
understood how few rights and privileges they have, they would be
demanding both ASF and PMC membership. Few do, so few have.
Well I kind of asked for PMC nomination, are you saying that we should, or indeed
could, ask for
Quoting Gary Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
-Original Message-
From: Daniel F. Savarese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 17:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release
[X] +1 I
I see what you are saying, but why is this an issue only with OGNL? Is it because of license
incompatibilities? 'Cause there are other jars in CVS both Apache and non-Apache.
-Harish
Danny Angus wrote:
I am with Erik on no JARs in CVS. Unless it is a legal issue, I
would certainly like to
Robert Leland wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
http://www.apache.org/~bayard/japache/ is a list of all
Java projects at Apache that I found.
Am just pondering ways in which to display all of them on
one site, and thought I'd share.
This is good. Since there is no single right way to display
Ted Husted wrote:
(Again, sorry about the quoting.)
o·ver·sight
1. An unintentional omission or mistake.
2. Watchful care or management; supervision
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oversight
The board expects PMCs to exercise (2) so as to avoid (1). :)
For a PMC this boils down
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