Re: Jakarta/IIS Integration

2010-12-10 Thread David Fisher
Hi James,

Apache Tomcat has been an Apache top level project for years. It is no longer 
part of Apache Jakarta.

http://tomcat.apache.org/

http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users

The Tomcat user list is very active with many people who will help you answer 
this question. Let them know which version of Tomcat, Java, OS, etc.

Regards,
Dave

On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Miner, James wrote:

 I have been working on this issue for a few days now. Last week, my client 
 needed to refresh their development server and one of the web services 
 applications that they were running did not come over in working order. To 
 reinstall I needed to remove the Tomcat instance, and any references in the 
 registries, uninstall everything and then reinstall.
 This has caused a few new problems, mainly that, because the application is 
 configured to use IIS as its web server and Tomcat as its Java server, it 
 needs a Jakarta instance to facilitate the Java handling back and forth. I've 
 looked into this solution and cannot seem to find Jakarta (at least not a 
 current version) on the Apache site. I did, however, find that Tomcat 
 Connectors may have the functionality that I am looking for but, when I 
 looked at the configuration guide included with the binary distribution it 
 seemed to be a process more complicated than I, a business process 
 analyst/Remedy developer, am comfortable performing on a client's box.
 As I said, this is a bit out of my area of expertise and I am looking for 
 suggestions of any nature here. If there is a product that I missed, a 
 step-by-step guide somewhere out there or anything that you believe would be 
 helpful to me at this point, I will be more than happy to hear about it. As 
 it is, I am at a stand-still with my actual work until I can get this issue 
 resolved, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thank you,
 
 James Miner
 Consultant/Service Support-Column Technologies
 130 William Street, 8th Floor, New York, NY 10038
 P: (917) 969-8331
 E: jmi...@columnit.com
 


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Re: Slide lists

2009-10-13 Thread David Fisher

Hi -


Or point Bugzilla and Gump to gene...@j (even discontinue Gump if the
nags are bound to fall on deaf ears).


Please do not - this discussion is a lot of traffic for gene...@j.

Or, maybe this Apache POI person should finish his migration and  
unsubscribe?


Best Regards,
Dave

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OT - Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread David Fisher

Sorry. No. Not on this list.

(1) Go to http://tomcat.apache.com look for their email list and ask  
your question on that list.


(2) Please learn to be much more polite, as you have been very rude  
in your earlier replies.


(3) Questions belong in a new email message and not in a reply.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Dave

On May 10, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Jean Carlo Salas wrote:


did you why Apache Tomcat dosn't run in Vista??

On 5/10/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 5/10/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [ ] +1 I support the proposal
  [ ] +0 I don't care
  [x] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

 I do not feel the draft resolution adequately addresses several
 remarks made in the discussion thread.

I'm in agreement with Niall. I think both of the quotes below are
mine, so I'll respond to those.


 The resolution should address issues raised as to the scope of  
the PMC

 and the use of the commons namespace. Comments on the other thread
 included remarks like

 * We'll do whatever the community wants to do. If someone  
proposes a

 Ruby library and we have a community interested in creating and
 supporting a Ruby library, then it would of course be strongly
 considered. 

Yep, I stand by this one. Look at Jakarta's resolution and what
Jakarta does now - it's clear that the community overrules the
resolution and I expect it's up to the board to complain if they feel
it's gone too far.


 and

 * Multiple PMCs, one website. So we'd have Java Commons, Ruby
 Commons, BobsYourUncle Commons PMCs, and they'd all share a
 commons.apache.org website.

This one was definitely a random suggestion. If we reach a point of
impasse with another commons wanting to start, then I (with board hat
on) think the solution would be to have multiple PMCs and 1 website.
Or maybe that really means a portal and a site behind it. All
hypothetical though - XML Commons is dead, DB Commons never happened
and WS Commons is afaik not highly active. We do own the Commons  
space

currently.

 But, as it stands, the resolution implies that the proposed PMC  
will
 be excluded to Java and would own both the top-level Commons  
project

 name and the commons.apache.org namespace. Neither remark is
 addressed.

Yep. Personally I think that we don't need Java there. For two  
reasons:


1) It's community and day to day life that determines our scope, more
so than a resoltion.
2) It's (let's face it) an easier sell without Java in the text.

However the consensus was very clearly in favour of having Java in  
the

resolution.

snip

 Let the focus of this PMC remain on Java, but, in the Apache  
spirit of
 openness and collaboration, make way for other Apache Commons  
projects

 in other languages.

Sure - but let's discuss that then rather than now. Hypotheticals  
will

just keep us spinning emails out ad infinitum.

Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread David Fisher
I was thinking he was asking the same thing as you, but after  
composing an email like yours, I realized Shawn was asking if after  
going to TLP he would remain as a committer to POI. I am sure that  
the answer is yes all current POI committers remain POI committers.


After going to TLP it will be easier for others to become POI  
committers because then it will the POI PMC votes that will bring  
them into the fold.


If I am wrong then I hope someone with a better understanding will  
correct me.


Regards,
Dave

On May 8, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:


On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:36 -0500, Laubach, Shawn Contr 555 ACSS/GFLA1
wrote:
So I can vote for this but then I'm not a committer anymore?  Just  
curious.


anyone can vote (and please feel free to do so). however only some  
votes

are binding upon apache. in this case, it's Jakarta PMC votes. if POI
graduates then only Apache POI PMC votes will be binding.

- robert



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Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-04 Thread David Fisher

Call me a non-binding +1.

Thanks to all for the POI! It is delicious!

Thanks to Nick for the leadership!

Regards,
Dave Fisher

On May 4, 2007, at 4:17 AM, Nick Burch wrote:


Hi All

After lots of discussion within POI, and Jakarta in general, we  
think POI

is ready to graduate to its own TLP. Thanks to the magic of ApacheCon,
lots of people have been on-hand to help finalise the proposal for  
this,

which is attached below.

So, now is the time to vote on the proposal:
[ ] +1 I support the proposal
[ ] +0 I don't care
[ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

Voting will close in one week.

Cheers
Nick



   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software related to the continued implementation of
   the library for manipulating files in various business formats
   currently known as Apache POI for distribution at
   no charge to the public.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache POI Project, be  
and

   hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
   be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache POI Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related
	   to creation and maintenance of open-source software and  
documentation

   related to the POI library based on software licensed to
   the Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, POI be and
   hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
   the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
   Apache POI Project, and to have primary responsibility for
   management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of
   the Apache POI Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   POI PMC:

 * Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Amol S. Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Jason Height [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Marc Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Rainer Klute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Yegor Kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Danny Muid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Sean Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Nick Burch
   be appointed to the office of Vice President, POI, to serve
   in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
   Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
   resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
   a successor is appointed; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
   POI sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta
   PMC are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-20 Thread David Fisher

Henri,

I appreciate what you did to help the POI project stand up and meet  
Apache requirements. It is an ongoing process - I think the  
subproject is close to doing it correctly and having a successful  
release!


Cheers!

Dave Fisher

On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:


On 3/18/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/14/07, Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:

  You actually have to roll and sign a tarball/zip ball on which  
the vote
  happens. Release-then-Vote seems to be the only accepted way  
by the

  board these days;

 Thankfully, neither events in velocity-private nor board  
feelings apply here.
 Either Jakarta PMC votes for it or receives an resolution,  
before that happens,

 existing procedures [1] stay.

There are (to my knowledge) three types of vote/release styles that
have been happening at the ASF.

1) A vote to do a release, with no sign of release files. This is how
this thread started and it's against ASF policy.

2) A vote on release-candidate files (or -dev in your case), and then
a release that is trusted to be a repeat of the process used. This is
currently a grey area policy-wise, and is where this release moved to
with the ~/vgritsenko/*-dev files.

3) Creating the actual files that are going to be released and voting
on them. There's pressure to go this way, but it's not the policy  
yet.


  personally I do prefer Vote-then-Release myself but
  that seems to be the way it is.

Release-then-Vote has some nice parts, the actual release is really
easy. That's nice if the release process has been painful as it means
I don't have to remember how to do the damn thing. Vote-then-Release
is nice in that you don't end up doing as many vote builds.

Other parts of the ASF seem to do a release where they make a build
and if it passes a vote it goes out, if it doesn't then they up the
bugfix number and do it again (I don't think anyone actually has a
build number, ie: 1.3.5.7). They also have an alpha/beta/GA thing  
that

the version number doesn't show. Very confusing as a user I think.

Mostly at this stage the mandate is that we have to be voting on
release files, not on Hey, how about a release.


This has been a pointless thread. Most of the people on the thread are
Members, so if someone could kick it off on members@ then I think
you'll see a much more informed discussion going on.

This 'how we release' conversation has been bouncing around the ASF
for 4 months now, the above is my best grok on the summary. I've not
seen anyone yet speaking in favour of a view that we should have a
vote on the idea of releasing and then someone does it when they can.
Please bring that up on members@ Vadim - good luck.

The reason for members existing (imo) is to provide a backbone to an
otherwise disparate and completely unrelated huge set of communities.
That means showing a bit more empathy and a bit less round and round
arguments.

Course, I'm grumpy and I've got zero patience for reading mailing list
threads over 5 emails nowadays for some reason.

Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread David Fisher

I have a thought that may not be an immediate solution.

Isn't the correctness of a release from a build point of view a  
testable condition? Shouldn't this be built in to the build system.


The apache servers would not allow an invalid package. They define  
the pattern. Isn't this GUMP? Not knowing details but seeing emails.


Otherwise you are cloaking a software challenge within adminstratium  
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administratium)


(Sorry, if I'm a little incoherent, I'm finishing an ironman front to  
back website release for work with last minute untested boss changes  
and bug fixes in the fortran - model went from 1 to 5 modes  )


Regards,
Dave Fisher

On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:55 AM, sebb wrote:


On 19/03/07, Jesse Kuhnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You have to be kidding me..

The only problem I see is that people are all caught up in policies /
processes but I've yet to hear what the actual root problem is. I'm
sure it's intended to somehow prevent something nasty that has
happened in the past but these policies don't have any logic that I'm
able to follow. Why does the ASF need to dictate how we vote on
releases?


I don't have the references to hand, but I believe it is something to
do with providing some form of legal protection. There may be other
reasons as well.


Maybe I'm just having a bad morning, but for some reason this really
rubs me the wrong way and feels extremely inefficient.


As far as I know, only one formal vote is actually required by the
ASF; this must be by the PMC on the release itself.


On 3/19/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snipped
 The problem here seems to be that it is not possible to use one  
vote
 to do both; therefore it seems to me that the sensible thing to  
do is

 to have two votes.



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Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread David Fisher

You have to be kidding me..

The only problem I see is that people are all caught up in policies /
processes but I've yet to hear what the actual root problem is. I'm
sure it's intended to somehow prevent something nasty that has
happened in the past but these policies don't have any logic that I'm
able to follow. Why does the ASF need to dictate how we vote on
releases?

Maybe I'm just having a bad morning, but for some reason this really
rubs me the wrong way and feels extremely inefficient.


The problem is that Vote-Then-Release leaves opportunities for the
small details to get missed and you end up with a sloppy release.
Examples include non-signed distributables, incomplete legal notices,
missing or incorrect hashes.  The worst is someone slipping in some
malicious code in between the time the vote is cast and the release is
made.


I may be wrong, but the ASF already has agreements with all  
committers and PMCs.


So, anyone slipping in malicious code into a release has already  
agreed not to do it. Anyone doing so is tagged.


This means that any of these mistakes are bugs. And while we want  
everything to be perfect, not everything is that way.




When a PMC votes on a release they should be approving the exact bits
that hit the mirrors.  That vote binds the ASF to be _legally_
responsible.  The only way to have sufficient and appropriate
oversight is to give the PMC a chance to check that these final steps
of a release have been properly handled.  Otherwise the PMC risks
releasing a half baked product.


So each project requires 3 release managers? The vote to release  
should appoint a release manager, and the manager should make the  
release. Their word is their bond. Who wants the reputation as a  
screw up? If the PMCs delegate it to another person then karma is  
reflected.




It is completely appropriate for the ASF to set guidelines on release
procedures.


Appropriate as long as they don't treat contributers like children.  
The ASF should have policies that enable open source, and not  
discourage it.


If someone screws up too many releases then the community can take  
away their karma.


The ASF should automate all those bit manipulations. Didn't someone  
in this thread say that ant does 99% of it?


Regards,
Dave Fisher




--
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Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread David Fisher
I always prefer to optimize my loops by unrolling them and doing each  
step differently.


Funny to talk about pattern matching in a regexp thread :-D

Burnt from my release time to have Yegor chew through some POI bugs ...

Regards,
Dave

On Mar 19, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:






Yeah, well I consider voting on something that doesn't exist yet  
to be

absurd. So there we are.


This whole thread is absurd.  There is no technical issue here.
cvs tag FOOBAR_1_0_RC1
ant
scp...
...crickets...
cvs TAG FOOBAR_1_0
ssh...
mv FOOBAR_1.0-RC1... FOOBAR_1.0-final...

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Re: tomcat config

2007-03-15 Thread David Fisher

Try Context path=Projects docBase=c:\Projects debug=0/

Make sure that Context .../ is inside of Host name=localhost  
debug=0 appBase=webapps ... /Host


Also, at least this is so for tomcat 4.1.31//

Good luck/

Dave


On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Richard Dunne wrote:

After subscribing to apache mailing list, I tried mailing  
users@tomcat.apache.org and got a delivery failure message.  I have  
a query re: tomcat configuration.  If this is not the correct list,  
apologies, perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.  I  
have installed tomcat 5 on my machine and got the page which states  
that if you are seeing this page then your installation of apache  
tomcat was successful.  On that assumption I tried to access a  
file called index.jsp in a folder called Projects located at c:\  I  
entered the following line in server.xml:   Context path=/ 
Projects docBase=c:\Projects debug=0/
I typed http://localhost:8080/Projects hoping to see index.jsp, but  
got a http error instead.


Any ideas what may be causing the error?

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Re: [Vote] Where should not-yet-commons-ssl go?

2007-02-23 Thread David Fisher

Hi Julius -

I have a question. Does not-yet-commons-ssl allow me to virtual  
host multiple domain ssl certificates on a single socket on a Tomcat  
4.1.31 server?


That would be awesome if it does.

Unofficial +1

Regards,
Dave Fisher

On Feb 23, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Julius Davies wrote:


Hi, Jakarta-General,

Let's vote on where to put this code!  Here's the code right now:

http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/

Forgive my newbieness; I hope these are the right options:

[+1] Sub-module in Httpcomponents.
[+1] Sandbox.
[+1] Full Incubator.
[-1] not-yet-commons-ssl is not a good project for Apache because...

I'm fine with majority rules, assuming there are no -1 votes.

Some background:

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-February2007

The code grant for the not yet commons SSL (formerly named
commons-ssl), has been completed, so we can progress to having a vote
where SSL should end up on general and based on that result take the
correct incubator path (legal / full incubation).

Let's just get this vote out of the way, and then we can move on to
other issues in the appropriate venue (HttpComponents, or Sandbox, or
Incubator).

My original proposal to jakarta-general about the project is here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg12790.html

Yesterday I released not-yet-commons-ssl-0.3.7.  Changes described
at the bottom of this email.  My intention is for 0.3.7 to be the last
release outside of Apache.


By the way, there's one undocumented feature of common-ssl that's been
quite fun:

http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/javadocs/org/apache/commons/ssl/ 
OpenSSL.html


:-)


yours,

Julius

ps.  My vote is:

[+0] - Abstaining because I'm too much of a newb to really understand
what I'm voting for.


On 2/23/07, Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:20 -0800, Julius Davies wrote:
 not-yet-commons-ssl-0.3.7 released!

 http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/download.html



Hi Julius,

What are your plans regarding not-yet-commons-ssl? Is there anything
still blocking the incubation process? There are already two Apache
projects (HttpComponents and Synapse) that can potentially benefit  
from
collaboration with not-yet-commons-ssl. So, there is a lot of  
interest

in seeing things moving forward.

Oleg




Features as of not-yet-commons-ssl-0.3.7:

1. useStrongCiphers() used by default.
-- 
---

40 bit and 56 bit ciphers are now disabled by default. To turn them
back on call useDefaultJavaCiphers().


2. addAllowedName() adds some flexibility to the CN verification.
-- 
---

Here's a code example using cucbc.com to connect, but anticipating
www.cucbc.com in the server's certificate:

 SSLClient client = new SSLClient();
 client.addAllowedName( www.cucbc.com );
 Socket s = client.createSocket( cucbc.com, 443 );

This technique is also useful if you don't want to use DNS, and want
to connect using the IP address.


3. SSLServer can re-use a Tomcat-8443 private key if running from  
inside Tomcat.
-- 
---

SSLClient server = new SSLServer();
server.useTomcatSSLMaterial();


4. RMI-SSL support improved.
-- 
---

Attempts to re-use the Tomcat-8443 private key for all RMI SSL Server
sockets. Anonymous server-sockets (port 0) will always be set to port
31099. Analyzes the server certificate CN field and tries to set
java.rmi.server.hostname to something compatible with that. Probably
the only free implementation around that does a good job on the
hostname verification!


5. KeyMaterial constructor blows up earlier.
-- 
---

If a JKS or PKCS12 file is provided that isn't going to work (e.g. no
private keys), the KeyMaterial constructor throws an exception right
away.


6. getSSLContext() now available to help inter-op with Java 5 SSL- 
NIO libraries.
-- 
---

Oleg has been working hard on SSL-NIO for the Apache httpcomponents
library. Go check it out!


7. Fixed bug where SSLClient couldn't be used with
javax.net.ssl.HttpsURLConnection on Java 1.4.x
-- 
---

I was wrapping the SSLSocket, but Java 1.4.x guards against that
inside HttpsURLConnection and throws this exciting exception:

java.lang.RuntimeException: Export restriction: this JSSE
implementation is non-pluggable.
at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketFactoryImpl.checkCreate 
(DashoA6275)

at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(DashoA6275)
at  
sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection.connect( 
DashoA6275)
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getOutputStream 

Jakarta Voting

2006-12-21 Thread David Fisher

Hi Jakarta Board-

A suggestion after reading with interest the recent POI vs. Jakarta  
smoke and flames threads.


I think that Jakarta needs a voting application that can include PMC  
quorum requirements, direct email vote requests, committer approval,  
etc.


Maybe it already exists?

Anyone want to +1 this ;-)

Regards,
Dave Fisher



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