Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status
Ear is better, mostly itches now. Don't think I blew the drum as I can hear fine. However I now have a cold too. :-( -Andy On 11/26/03 8:03 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a > call, to see where they > are with the software grant. Between that, ApacheCon, a bad cold (how's that > ear, Andy?) and the > 9-to-5 (oh, and painters in my house) I'm falling a little behind. > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > >> -Original Message- >> From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:29 PM >> To: Jakarta General List >> Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework >> >> >> +1 - there is room enough. >> >> On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? >> the site is >> still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update >> general as to >> the current situation re: HiveMind? >> >> Andrew C. Oliver wrote: >> >>> I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all >>> service frameworks. I also must say that I hate the "come >> discuss this in >>> 'our' house" approach to collaboration. One size does not >> fit all and >>> Avalon has shown over the years that this is especially true >> for it. I say >>> that Howard Lewis Ship is a skilled coder and community >> builder and if he >>> wants to give it a try with HiveMind, while the topic bores >> me personally, >>> I'll give him my support. If he does want to collaborate with the >>> Avalonites (Avaloners?) then he should be encouraged to do >> so; however, if >>> his approach is different enough to warrant its own show >> then I encourage >>> him to do that as well. I trust his judgment to that effect. >>> >>> We have Struts, Turbine, and Avalon. We have Velocity, JSP, >> XSLT, etc. We >>> have commons digester and XMLBeans... None are "preferred" >> and BTW Avalon >>> isn't even "preferred" as Tomcat, for instance, doesn't use it. >>> >>> To suggest that there can be only one "true" service >> framework is misguided, >>> IMHO. >>> >>> -Andy >>> >>> On 11/18/03 12:49 AM, "Stephen McConnell" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > I'm moniroting the avalon dev list. > > Howard: As mentioned earlier there are some things that would be >> interesting to discuss over on the avalon dev list. Perhaps you could put >> forward you thoughts about the potential or lack thereoff on >> collaboration. I think some good points have already been put on the table for >> working together and for working apart - but just at the moment these >> thoughts are only on the table and no real discussion is happening as a >> result. I think that could change if we were to go beyond mutual monotoring. Cheers, Steve. > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Stephen McConnell >> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:10 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework >> >> >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've put up a limited copy of the HiveMind documentation on >>> >>> >> my personal home page: >> >> Howard: >> >> Are you open to the idea of discussing some mutual areas >> of interest? >> >> There are a number of aspects of the work you are doing that are >> complimentary with the work on-going in Avalon, and >> several areas in >> Avalon which after review your material are complimentary >> with your own >> efforts. Can I get you to sign up to the avalon dev list >> bacause I >> would very much like to discuss this further together with >> other members >> of the Avalon crew. >> >> Details for the Avalon dev list are available at the >> following URL: >> >> >> > http://avalon.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > > I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > > Cheers, Stephen. > > > > > --- >> -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status
I for one am hoping the IP stuff is resolved soon. We are planning to evaluate Hivemind along with a couple other component frameworks for Jetspeed 2 to replace the temporary Fulcrum implementation that is current in place. I have been reading the Hivemind docs and must say I am pretty excited play around with it. Regards, ** | Scott T Weaver | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | Apache Jetspeed Portal Project | | Apache Pluto Portlet Container | ** > -Original Message- > From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:03 AM > To: 'Jakarta General List' > Subject: RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status > > I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a > call, to see where they > are with the software grant. Between that, ApacheCon, a bad cold (how's > that ear, Andy?) and the > 9-to-5 (oh, and painters in my house) I'm falling a little behind. > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:29 PM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > > > > > > +1 - there is room enough. > > > > On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? > > the site is > > still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update > > general as to > > the current situation re: HiveMind? > > > > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > > >I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all > > >service frameworks. I also must say that I hate the "come > > discuss this in > > >'our' house" approach to collaboration. One size does not > > fit all and > > >Avalon has shown over the years that this is especially true > > for it. I say > > >that Howard Lewis Ship is a skilled coder and community > > builder and if he > > >wants to give it a try with HiveMind, while the topic bores > > me personally, > > >I'll give him my support. If he does want to collaborate with the > > >Avalonites (Avaloners?) then he should be encouraged to do > > so; however, if > > >his approach is different enough to warrant its own show > > then I encourage > > >him to do that as well. I trust his judgment to that effect. > > > > > >We have Struts, Turbine, and Avalon. We have Velocity, JSP, > > XSLT, etc. We > > >have commons digester and XMLBeans... None are "preferred" > > and BTW Avalon > > >isn't even "preferred" as Tomcat, for instance, doesn't use it. > > > > > >To suggest that there can be only one "true" service > > framework is misguided, > > >IMHO. > > > > > >-Andy > > > > > >On 11/18/03 12:49 AM, "Stephen McConnell" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I'm moniroting the avalon dev list. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Howard: > > >> > > >>As mentioned earlier there are some things that would be > > interesting to > > >>discuss over on the avalon dev list. Perhaps you could put > > forward you > > >>thoughts about the potential or lack thereoff on > > collaboration. I think > > >>some good points have already been put on the table for > > working together > > >>and for working apart - but just at the moment these > > thoughts are only > > >>on the table and no real discussion is happening as a > > result. I think > > >>that could change if we were to go beyond mutual monotoring. > > >> > > >>Cheers, Steve. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>-- > > >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship > > >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > > >>>http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>
RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status
I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a call, to see where they are with the software grant. Between that, ApacheCon, a bad cold (how's that ear, Andy?) and the 9-to-5 (oh, and painters in my house) I'm falling a little behind. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > -Original Message- > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:29 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > > > +1 - there is room enough. > > On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? > the site is > still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update > general as to > the current situation re: HiveMind? > > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > >I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all > >service frameworks. I also must say that I hate the "come > discuss this in > >'our' house" approach to collaboration. One size does not > fit all and > >Avalon has shown over the years that this is especially true > for it. I say > >that Howard Lewis Ship is a skilled coder and community > builder and if he > >wants to give it a try with HiveMind, while the topic bores > me personally, > >I'll give him my support. If he does want to collaborate with the > >Avalonites (Avaloners?) then he should be encouraged to do > so; however, if > >his approach is different enough to warrant its own show > then I encourage > >him to do that as well. I trust his judgment to that effect. > > > >We have Struts, Turbine, and Avalon. We have Velocity, JSP, > XSLT, etc. We > >have commons digester and XMLBeans... None are "preferred" > and BTW Avalon > >isn't even "preferred" as Tomcat, for instance, doesn't use it. > > > >To suggest that there can be only one "true" service > framework is misguided, > >IMHO. > > > >-Andy > > > >On 11/18/03 12:49 AM, "Stephen McConnell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I'm moniroting the avalon dev list. > >>> > >>> > >>Howard: > >> > >>As mentioned earlier there are some things that would be > interesting to > >>discuss over on the avalon dev list. Perhaps you could put > forward you > >>thoughts about the potential or lack thereoff on > collaboration. I think > >>some good points have already been put on the table for > working together > >>and for working apart - but just at the moment these > thoughts are only > >>on the table and no real discussion is happening as a > result. I think > >>that could change if we were to go beyond mutual monotoring. > >> > >>Cheers, Steve. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-- > >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship > >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > >>>http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephen McConnell > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I've put up a limited copy of the HiveMind documentation on > > > > > my personal home page: > > Howard: > > Are you open to the idea of discussing some mutual areas > of interest? > > There are a number of aspects of the work you are doing that are > complimentary with the work on-going in Avalon, and > several areas in > Avalon which after review your material are complimentary > with your own > efforts. Can I get you to sign up to the avalon dev list > bacause I > would very much like to discuss this further together with > other members > of the Avalon crew. > > Details for the Avalon dev list are available at the > following URL: > > > > >>> http://avalon.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > >>> > >>>I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > >>> > >>>Cheers, Stephen. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>--- > -- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > - > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ---
