I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a call, to see where they are with the software grant. Between that, ApacheCon, a bad cold (how's that ear, Andy?) and the 9-to-5 (oh, and painters in my house) I'm falling a little behind.
-- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:29 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > > > +1 - there is room enough. > > On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind? > the site is > still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update > general as to > the current situation re: HiveMind? > > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > >I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all > >service frameworks. I also must say that I hate the "come > discuss this in > >'our' house" approach to collaboration. One size does not > fit all and > >Avalon has shown over the years that this is especially true > for it. I say > >that Howard Lewis Ship is a skilled coder and community > builder and if he > >wants to give it a try with HiveMind, while the topic bores > me personally, > >I'll give him my support. If he does want to collaborate with the > >Avalonites (Avaloners?) then he should be encouraged to do > so; however, if > >his approach is different enough to warrant its own show > then I encourage > >him to do that as well. I trust his judgment to that effect. > > > >We have Struts, Turbine, and Avalon. We have Velocity, JSP, > XSLT, etc. We > >have commons digester and XMLBeans... None are "preferred" > and BTW Avalon > >isn't even "preferred" as Tomcat, for instance, doesn't use it. > > > >To suggest that there can be only one "true" service > framework is misguided, > >IMHO. > > > >-Andy > > > >On 11/18/03 12:49 AM, "Stephen McConnell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I'm moniroting the avalon dev list. > >>> > >>> > >>Howard: > >> > >>As mentioned earlier there are some things that would be > interesting to > >>discuss over on the avalon dev list. Perhaps you could put > forward you > >>thoughts about the potential or lack thereoff on > collaboration. I think > >>some good points have already been put on the table for > working together > >>and for working apart - but just at the moment these > thoughts are only > >>on the table and no real discussion is happening as a > result. I think > >>that could change if we were to go beyond mutual monotoring. > >> > >>Cheers, Steve. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-- > >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship > >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > >>>http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephen McConnell > >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:10 PM > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I've put up a limited copy of the HiveMind documentation on > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>my personal home page: > >>>> > >>>>Howard: > >>>> > >>>>Are you open to the idea of discussing some mutual areas > of interest? > >>>> > >>>>There are a number of aspects of the work you are doing that are > >>>>complimentary with the work on-going in Avalon, and > several areas in > >>>>Avalon which after review your material are complimentary > >>>>with your own > >>>>efforts. Can I get you to sign up to the avalon dev list > bacause I > >>>>would very much like to discuss this further together with > >>>>other members > >>>>of the Avalon crew. > >>>> > >>>>Details for the Avalon dev list are available at the > following URL: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> http://avalon.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > >>> > >>>I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > >>> > >>>Cheers, Stephen. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>----------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]