Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl -> commons-sslutils?

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On 12/1/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 15:20 -0500, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Julius Davies wrote: > ... > > I had to explain that Commons-SSL just sits on top of the JSSE and JCE > > to try and make working with SSL and Java easier. Your point about > > t

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl -> commons-sslutils?

2006-12-01 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 15:20 -0500, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Julius Davies wrote: > ... > > I had to explain that Commons-SSL just sits on top of the JSSE and JCE > > to try and make working with SSL and Java easier. Your point about > > the name is a good one. > > The counterpoint to name argumen

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Also, just to be clear, when Roland says "I guess a lawyer will have to look into that", there's a specific internal Apache mailing list ("legal-discuss") for resolving exactly these kind of issues. To me this seems a perfect candidate for the incubator, and possibly to move into Jakarta upon gra

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Julius Davies wrote: ... I had to explain that Commons-SSL just sits on top of the JSSE and JCE to try and make working with SSL and Java easier. Your point about the name is a good one. The counterpoint to name argument. Just single example, I'm sure there are many more: commons-logging sits

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Also (note this is getting technical), Apache policy is to acknowledge copyrights in the NOTICE file not the source code. This is a new policy, effective Nov 1 2006. See: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html WILL On 12/1/06, Roland Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Julius, > Regar

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Roland Weber
Hi Julius, > Regarding the BouncyCastle code, I sent an email to the BouncyCastle > mailing list. Here's the reply I got: > > [...] >> If attribution is included we have no issue with the section of code >> being included in a product distributed under Apache 2.0. > [...] > > I hope that's suffi

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Julius Davies
Hi, Roland, I have already noticed some confusion about the "commons-ssl" name - someone emailed httpclient-dev asking: "Does this SSL support TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA?" I had to explain that Commons-SSL just sits on top of the JSSE and JCE to try and make working with SSL and Java e

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Roland Weber
Hi Julius, it's great to see that you finally got the proposal ball rolling :-) I didn't look into your code, so my comments are based on the proposal itself and on your web page. I like the positive attitude with which you present the advantages of the project. However, I a missing a clear defin

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Hey, that sounds very cool. Nice job too in organizing your email and hitting many of the important highlights required to be an Apache projects. WILL On 12/1/06, Julius Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Please take a look at "not-yet-commons-ssl", currently hosted here: http://juliusdav

Re: PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Ortwin Glück
Julius Davies wrote: Oh, one final note. If this gets sandboxed, I don't need to be a committer at this time. I'm more than happy to just email patches. Don't worry, David. I am sure you have plenty of fans here who will be more than happy to vote for you as a committer! ---

PROPOSAL: commons-ssl

2006-12-01 Thread Julius Davies
Hi, Please take a look at "not-yet-commons-ssl", currently hosted here: http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/ This java library was developed over the last year with Apache Commons in mind. I've been hanging out on the httpclient mailing list for 2 years, learning about https and ssl and java th