RE: proposal for the jakarta startpage

Come over and vote on it now. It has been proposed and has about 7 +1s so far... Scott -Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:14 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage On Mon

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

+1 There is now a "Subproject Alternatives" section citing Taglibs, Avalon, Commons, Turbine, XML, et al. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject2.html Peter Donald wrote: > Unless you plan on adding similar comments for a few other projects. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:05, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > Consider this - how many committers are there in commons atm - 10, 20, 30 > > ? Now to get a new project moved you need a 3/4 vote - lets be generous > > and say about 12 votes! That seems real likely. > > And we are looking at changing

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For the archive - this was peter responding to Sam. On 1/13/02 8:45 AM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have I ever blocked anybody moving anything to commons? > > Yes I would love to particpate in commons but I probably wont because I > consider the management process of it broken.

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For the time being, I've removed the sentence about the Commons from the working draft. Though, since both Jakarta and Commons have procedures for accepting new products, it would seem polite to steer anyone interested in donating a codebase to Jakarta to both places. After all, many proposals h

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:18, Sam Ruby wrote: > Peter Donald wrote: > > Unless you plan on adding similar comments for a few other projects I > > would > > > suggest you remove the commons advertising > > Why? Should the reference to Turbine be removed from > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.ht

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Peter Donald wrote: > > Unless you plan on adding similar comments for a few other projects I would > suggest you remove the commons advertising Why? Should the reference to Turbine be removed from http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html ? Do you have a proposed patch? Something you would l

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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:54, Ted Husted wrote: > There's a proposed redraft of the Subproject Proposals page at > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject2.html > > It's mainly a refactoring, adding subheadings, and so forth, and relies > on the content of the original page > > http://jakarta.apa

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the screaming passengers in the car he was driving." (Ancient Chinese Proverb) >-Original Message- >From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:55 PM >To: Jakarta General List >Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > &

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

SHORT TERM PLAN There's a proposed redraft of the Subproject Proposals page at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject2.html It's mainly a refactoring, adding subheadings, and so forth, and relies on the content of the original page http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html which is

RE: proposal for the jakarta startpage

>From: Gerhard Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Hi, > >>From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> >>On 1/11/02 7:14 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> SHORT TERM PLAN >>> >>> I was thinking of adding a section to the start page, after the Jakarta >>> subpr

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Hi, >From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >On 1/11/02 7:14 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> SHORT TERM PLAN >> >> I was thinking of adding a section to the start page, after the Jakarta >> subproject index, to mention our friends at XML. Something like this: >

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On 1/11/02 7:14 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SHORT TERM PLAN > > I was thinking of adding a section to the start page, after the Jakarta > subproject index, to mention our friends at XML. Something like this: Why limit just to XML-land (we have friends in many places), and what

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SHORT TERM PLAN I was thinking of adding a section to the start page, after the Jakarta subproject index, to mention our friends at XML. Something like this: == Apache XML Project Many people who visit Jakarta also find the products of the Apache XML Project to be of interest. Products hosted

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:29, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I also will say I haven't seen community crosstalk between XML and Jakarta, > from the point of view as communities. I know there are individuals who > contribute greatly to both communities, and many of us here in Jakarta > depend on XML proj

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On 1/7/02 12:53 AM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:39, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? > > different technologies (ie c vs java). So what? You didn't think that mattered before. >>> >>> w

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Peter Donald wrote: > Watchdog is TC specific - didn't know that ? Is it servlet/jsp specific or > tomcat specific? Could it be reimplemented over the top of Cactus or is it > tied to a specific infrastructure? > Watchdog is not Tomcat-specific - the validity tests should w

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:39, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? > >>> > >>> different technologies (ie c vs java). > >> > >> So what? You didn't think that mattered before. > > > > what are you talking about ? When have I said merging incompatible >

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On 1/6/02 5:26 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:05, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> On 1/6/02 3:54 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? >>>

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:05, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > On 1/6/02 3:54 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? > > > > different technologies (ie c vs java). > > So what? You didn'

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On 1/6/02 3:54 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? > > different technologies (ie c vs java). So what? You didn't think that mattered before. > >> Shouldn't Cocoon and PHP b

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? different technologies (ie c vs java). > Shouldn't Cocoon and PHP be in the same category? different technologies (ie c vs java) > Shouldn't APR and Commons and Avalon be in the same cate

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On 1/6/02 2:21 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:10, Sam Ruby wrote: >> Shouldn't... >> >>Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? >> >>Watchdog and Tomcat be in the same category? >> >>Jmeter and Cactus be in the same category? >> >>Luc

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On 1/6/02 2:10 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shouldn't... > > Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? For some users, sure. For others, not. Velocity's core template engine has nothing to do with the J2EE API. We include a single Servlet base class for application use (no

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:49, Sam Ruby wrote: > Peter Donald wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:10, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Shouldn't... > >> > >>Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? > >> > >>Watchdog and Tomcat be in the same category? > >> > >>Jmeter and Cactus be in the same category?

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Sam Ruby wrote: > My two cents: these categories are not perfect, but are useful. Not unlike the Apache Projects =:) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-

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Peter Donald wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:10, Sam Ruby wrote: >> Shouldn't... >> >>Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? >> >>Watchdog and Tomcat be in the same category? >> >>Jmeter and Cactus be in the same category? >> >>Lucene and Oro be in the same category? > > Shou

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:10, Sam Ruby wrote: > Shouldn't... > >Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? > >Watchdog and Tomcat be in the same category? > >Jmeter and Cactus be in the same category? > >Lucene and Oro be in the same category? Shouldn't JMeter and Watchdog be in the

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Shouldn't... Velocity and Jasper be in the same category? Watchdog and Tomcat be in the same category? Jmeter and Cactus be in the same category? Lucene and Oro be in the same category? Don't read anything more into these questions: in particular, I believe that these questions ca

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

Lazy consensus. If anyone doesn't like it, they can change it :) "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > Cool. I am assuming that you will ask each project where they belong? > > :) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. --

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On 1/6/02 1:56 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In futherance of the work begun the other day, I broke the subproject > list into three general categories, to increase readability. > > Libraries, Tools, and APIs > Frameworks and Engines > Server Applications > Cool. I am assuming

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In futherance of the work begun the other day, I broke the subproject list into three general categories, to increase readability. Libraries, Tools, and APIs Frameworks and Engines Server Applications I based the initial categories and placements on how the subprojects described themselves.

Re: Jakarta Status [or proposal for the jakarta startpage]

Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > What? Contribute to Gump to make it more powerful and nagging? I rather > iron my old shirts before scratching that itch. Is it possible that Gump > is complete such that no one has anything valuable left to contribute? Sheesh. Some people have no vision. ;-) Did you kn

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on 1/4/02 12:41 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did post an update this morning, but there apparently a problem with > anoncvs that's preventing me from copying the changes over to the main > site. I did a cvs update for you. -jon -- Standard rules apply: Ask any questions, a

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, January 04, 2002 9:41 PM >To: Jakarta General List >Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > > >Gerhard Froehlich wrote: >> >> Nope. No karma for the Jakarta Site, only for the Avalon project. >> Your turn ;-). > >I did post an update this morning, b

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

Gerhard Froehlich wrote: > > Nope. No karma for the Jakarta Site, only for the Avalon project. > Your turn ;-). I did post an update this morning, but there apparently a problem with anoncvs that's preventing me from copying the changes over to the main site. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fa

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Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html I'm nobody at ASF but I am on this mailling list. I think it's my first post (or near). I just wanna say: "Jon, It's a really good job!" -- Arnaud, STE-Formations Informatiques, fapse, ULg, .BE

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Gerhard Froehlich wrote: > PS: Can somebody explain me, why the my mails are send twice > to this list since today? I've nobody in CC! The same thing is happening to me. I've been thinking my mail filters had gone hay-write. We're apparently getting two copies of our own mails back. -- Ted

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Hi, >-Original Message- >From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:49 PM >To: Jakarta General List >Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > > >If you already have the karma, Gerhard, go ahead. Otherwise, I can.

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If you already have the karma, Gerhard, go ahead. Otherwise, I can. Though, for consistency, I'd paste in the descriptions from Bugzilla, which is a more complete list. If anyone else has karma to the ASF site, we should also update the projects page, http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.

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Hi, >From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Here is yet another solution to this problem... > > > >Once again, I already did 99% of the work. If you guys would like to help >keep it up to date and maybe link it from the Jakarta ho

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

Here is yet another solution to this problem... Once again, I already did 99% of the work. If you guys would like to help keep it up to date and maybe link it from the Jakarta homepage (or copy the data from there), then that would be great. I

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ted Husted wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:45:06 -0500 > From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta sta

RE: proposal for the jakarta startpage

>-Original Message- >From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:45 PM >To: Jakarta General List >Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > > >If everyone thinks the Bugzilla page descriptions are a reasonable >startin

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

> -Original Message- > > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 03 January 2002 14:15 > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > > > > On 1/3/02 9:02 AM, "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL

RE: proposal for the jakarta startpage

: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage > > On 1/3/02 9:02 AM, "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > hi, > > following idea for the jakarta startpage: > > how about adding a short description of each jakarta

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What I've been meaning to do is set this up using the descriptions from Bugzilla, but never seem to get round to it. http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > On 1/3/02 9:02 AM, "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi, > > following idea

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

On 1/3/02 9:02 AM, "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > following idea for the jakarta startpage: > how about adding a short description of each jakarta subproject on the > startpage. something like that: > > TEXT TEXT TEXT TEXT > > NAV Lucene: > NAV

proposal for the jakarta startpage

hi, following idea for the jakarta startpage: how about adding a short description of each jakarta subproject on the startpage. something like that: TEXT TEXT TEXT TEXT NAV Lucene: NAV A java based text search enginge. NAV