I think the incubator should take in to account that committers/memebers
w/in the Jakarta Community have serious reservations about the community
issues here. While I really want to see this happen here, Steven is
right to question some serious community issues. BTW here are mine:
Please
Conor MacNeill wrote:
Steven,
I think these are exactly the sort of questions incubator is designed to
answer. Tapestry was about seeing how an existing project can come into
Apache. Perhaps Pluto is an opportunity to understand how a new project
can be created and encouraged at Apache. They
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Please note that my support is based on the following assumptions:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TalkPlutoProposal
Andy,
This is an *excellent* list to work from. Thanks!
- Sam Ruby
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Stefan Hepper wrote:
- Pluto is only the reference implementation for the Portlet API defined
in the JSR 168
This is comparable with the tomcat being the servlet container and
implementing the servlet API.
Pluto itself is only a infrastructure component. All portal related
functionality
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of forum software for Jakarta.
The reason I am bringing it up again is that mailing lists are intrusive and spammy.
Daily I get flooded with a ton of email that I have absolutely no interest in reading.
However if I unsubscribe to the lists
Try gmane
http://www.gmane.org/
then you can use your favourite news reader software to browse the already
existing mail lists - it supports replies too.
James
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- Original Message -
From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
Hen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Well, once again I would
Most forums have subscribe services. However what the devs really need to
check is bug tracking more than forums. Forums are a place to discuss things
whereas bug tracking is the place to fix things. PhpBB2 has all of those
features and is free. It takes about 15 min to configure. You could even,
-Original Message-
From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath
What about my proposal to have a weblogs on apache.org ?
the MT from moveabletype.org (www.movabletype.org)
is excellent.
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Then how do you answer the following issues:
1) The vast majority of Jakarta users will not want to be inundated with
email on a daily basis. They either wont bother to read it or will
unsubscribe. This will ultimately cost us hundreds of potential developers
that might have wanted to work on a
-1
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of
forum software for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up
again is that mailing lists are intrusive and spammy.
Are they? I can't agree... I find them non-intrusive (my mail client
quiet files them in a folder) and non-spammy
I'm just a lurker, but:
-1
-Original Message-
From: Robert Simmons
To: Jakarta General
Sent: 1/22/2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Forum Software.
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of forum software
for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up again is that mailing lists
are
1) The vast majority of Jakarta users will not want to be
inundated with
email on a daily basis. They either wont bother to read it or will
unsubscribe. This will ultimately cost us hundreds of
potential developers
that might have wanted to work on a part of a project but
didn't know
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I have come to rely deeply on
these lists.
+1
I spend my offline hours
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a mail-news gateway
From: Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a mail-news gateway
which would expose the lists as news groups.
They already are.
Point your browser/newsreader at news://news.gmane.org/
or in particular here and follow this thread in your news reader...
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:52:12 +0100
From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
Then how do you answer the following issues:
Steven Noels wrote:
Conor MacNeill wrote:
Steven,
I think these are exactly the sort of questions incubator is designed to
answer. Tapestry was about seeing how an existing project can come into
Apache. Perhaps Pluto is an opportunity to understand how a new project
can be created and
At 08:20 PM 1/22/2003 +0100, you wrote:
I will try to join both Pluto and Charon, also, time and health
permitting. Even if I am not very active lately, I'm still tracking Cocoon
and Jetspeed as much as I can. I'm better at bug fixing, critisizing and
generic hacking than a true programmer,
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:13:20AM -0800, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:13:20AM -0800, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I
Robert Simmons wrote:
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of forum software for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up again is that mailing lists are intrusive and spammy. Daily I get flooded with a ton of email that I have absolutely no interest in reading. However if I
Danny Angus wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a
Hi Robert,
First off, I can sympathize with your idea. Users being able to
casually drop in on a list with a minimum amount of hassle, e.g. not
subscribing for firing up a news reader, a web-based forum makes
sense.
However, as you can see, I don't think Apache will ever move away
from email
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Costin Manolache wrote:
snip
I would preffer that all portlet-related technology would be in the same
project and community, with JSP/struts/cocoon specific areas. Maybe an
commons-like project.
+1 (providing that andrew's reservations about pluto
on 2003/1/22 12:28 PM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Install spamassassin and server-side filtering (with procmail, for
instance). ;-) (It saves me between 5 and 10 spam messages a day, quite
an effort just to download and delete).
You should be so lucky to only get 5-10 a day. I
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Randall J. Parr wrote:
It seems much of the reason people want to have forums is for the search
abilities. There are mail archives available but I must I agree many are
so limited in their search abilities and/or interface that they do not
help
Ick,
I don't want a forum unless it also is a mailing list
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Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/01/2003 03:41:27 AM:
So the suggestion is:
All
And I volunteer to write a Struts/Tomcat based one ( I have most of
functionality in basicPortal.com that uses a lot of jakarta project).
I think use Jakarta dogmeet.
.V
Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 11:15:22PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
We have a license and an installation
Sam Ruby wrote:
robert burrell donkin wrote:
+1 (providing that andrew's reservations about pluto are resolved)
why not portlet.apache.org (with jetspeed and pluto as subprojects)?
I predict that something along those lines will eventually occur. The
question is whether to gate this
The logo on this page looksWonderful!
http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog/index.html
(mozilla 1.2.1 and IE 6.x)
-Andy
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The most appropriate place to discuss this is on infrastructure@...
This is a discussion for a piece of infrastructure you'd like to add.
I would include an offer to do all of the administration and support.
-Andy
Henri Gomez wrote:
What about my proposal to have a weblogs on apache.org ?
the
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I have come to rely
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